US CE Spring 2022: I'm convinced it's useless which is why I argue about it all day every day

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B B: Dec 1, 2005

Discendo Vox posted:

I'm not going to research every single area of US law and rulemaking to go through the whole threadshitting list.

So you're going to put a minimal amount of effort into proving that the list is bullshit but want the rest of the thread to believe that it's bullshit? I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that the House Progressive Caucus knows more about what can be done via executive action and executive order than you do.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2022 17:48

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 06:31

B B: Dec 1, 2005

VitalSigns posted:

Would it, even if Hillary won the Dems still failed to take the Senate, why wouldn't McConnell just leave Scalia and Ginsburg's seats open until 2021 when whatever Republican won could replace them and Kennedy too.

Then we'd be hearing forever about how 2020 was the turning point, or 2024, or whenever a Democrat finally lost that would be the magic year that it was all the voters' fault and the forever excuse to never do anything again because we should have voted in ~~2016~~ ~~2020~~ 2024 and it's too late now fuckers

Seems to me Roe was doomed because the Democratic Party wasn't willing to use its supermajority to codify it, and wasn't willing to play hardball with the courts the way Republicans were. The particular year that gave Republicans the majorities to lock in the courts is just happenstance, it was gonna happen anyway because Democrats confirm Republican judges and Republicans don't confirm Democratic judges so there was only one way the court was eventually going to end up.

For what it's worth, Pelosi got asked about the bolded part earlier today. If you jump to 1:20, the interviewer asks her if Obama was wrong not to push harder for the Freedom of Choice Act, and she straight up says that the Democratic Party wasn't pro-choice in 2009:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1523322245497643008

# ¿ May 9, 2022 04:57

B B: Dec 1, 2005

The moderation of this thread has been particularly garbage lately, yes.

# ¿ May 10, 2022 06:10

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Bishyaler posted:

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1524399029148426241?s=20&t=U-W7pQNbOuEQUl6JlK57Zw

Durbin taking court expansion completely off the table, one can only assume because it would be effective in combatting the threat and they have very important fundraising emails to send.

Seems like the Manchin Cycle diagrams need to be updated.

# ¿ May 11, 2022 18:30

B B: Dec 1, 2005

First call for Fetterman:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1526716962507837443

# ¿ May 18, 2022 01:18

B B: Dec 1, 2005

The press conference where the cowardly cops give an update about their response is going to be here:

https://www.kens5.com/video/news/li...a0-1463d9f54925

# ¿ May 26, 2022 19:11

B B: Dec 1, 2005

B B posted:

The press conference where the cowardly cops give an update about their response is going to be here:

https://www.kens5.com/video/news/li...a0-1463d9f54925

Starting now.

# ¿ May 26, 2022 19:28

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Apparently the police took so long to enter the building because there was a gunman inside and they were worried they might be shot.

https://twitter.com/JREakin/status/1529979115709034496

# ¿ May 27, 2022 01:32

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Willa Rogers posted:

You don't think voters correlate the inflation of the last year with Democrats & Biden?

Because even if you're correct, the GOP campaign to blame it on Biden & the Dems seems to be taking hold among voters, according to the polling.

Speaking of which, Biden's approval gap is at an all-time low in the RCP tracker:

It's also worth noting that Biden's approval ratings are now worse than Trump's at the same point in their presidencies. In fact, at this point in his president, Biden's the least liked of all the presidents for which we have data (going back to 1945):

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

# ¿ May 27, 2022 15:15

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Greg Abbott just gave his speech at the NRA. Notable is that he praised the bravery of the teachers and staff but didn't even mention the police.

# ¿ May 27, 2022 21:28

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Uvalde is also calling in police from elsewhere to protect their cops:

https://twitter.com/CBSDFW/status/1530222513887883265

# ¿ May 27, 2022 21:31

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Abbott says the police lied to him:

https://twitter.com/sewellchan/status/1530291957699837953

https://twitter.com/sewellchan/status/1530292089954750464

https://twitter.com/sewellchan/status/1530292492200968192

Oh and another politician interrupted the conference:

https://twitter.com/disolis/status/1530297626863837189

# ¿ May 27, 2022 22:31

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Discendo Vox posted:

It is very difficult to have a discussion when it is contingent on wading through the constant insults of people who take the position that whatever they don't want to talk about is automatically "nothing" or "not of value". It's not a subtle method of abuse: whatever isn't happening becomes the only thing that "matters", and anyone who disagrees and wants to acknowledge other events becomes a target.

Shut up, bitch.

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# ¿ Jun 4, 2022 19:16

B B: Dec 1, 2005

https://i.imgur.com/AMJjldL.mp4

# ¿ Jun 10, 2022 17:01

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Virginia has recriminalized possession of marijuana.

Maximum penalty for possession of 4 ounces or more is currently a civil fine of $25.

After this, maximum penalty is a $1,000 fine and 6 months in prison for a second offense.

The Virginia house has also blocked the Senate's efforts to approve retail sales.

https://norml.org/blog/2022/06/01/virginia-approved-budget-recriminalizes-public-marijuana-possession-over-4-ounces/

This is a dumb and stupid move but it's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. Colorado allows only up to 2 oz by comparison. Va is still double that.

Va should be working on legalizing recreational dispensaries instead of what they're doing, but this is what happens when you nominate Terry McCaullife. Hopefully Va Democrats are less stupid during the next primary for Governor.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2022 03:43

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Julian Assange has been convicted of rape in the same way that Joe Biden has been convicted of rape.

# ¿ Jun 21, 2022 00:03

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Jaxyon posted:

I don't think he has been convicted of rape. So are we being pedantic, or not believing women when our politics lines up with doing so.

Unless words have lost all meaning, "accused of" and "convicted of" mean very different things. I think that Donald Trump has raped women, but he hasn't been convicted of doing so. I think the same thing about Julian Assange and Joe Biden. I would not post that Donald Trump, Julian Assange, or Joe Biden have been convicted of raping women, but I think it's very fair to post that all three have been credibly accused of doing so.

# ¿ Jun 21, 2022 00:09

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Jaxyon posted:

I just want to clarify.

Do we think Assange is a rapist or not?

Could you quote or name the people whom you are asking this question?

# ¿ Jun 21, 2022 00:20

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 06:31

B B: Dec 1, 2005

Jaxyon posted:

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B B

I did not miss how it started, that's why I asked for clarification if people were just being pedantic about whether or not a rapist was convicted(he is not, but that's true of a bunch of prominent rapists), or if this was a concern troll by people who also did not think he was a rapist.

B B posted:

Unless words have lost all meaning, "accused of" and "convicted of" mean very different things. I think that Donald Trump has raped women, but he hasn't been convicted of doing so. I think the same thing about Julian Assange and Joe Biden. I would not post that Donald Trump, Julian Assange, or Joe Biden have been convicted of raping women, but I think it's very fair to post that all three have been credibly accused of doing so.

I already said that I think that the accusations against Julian Assange, Joe Biden, and Donald Trump are credible but that none of them have been legally convicted, which seems to mirror your own position:

Jaxyon posted:

"He hasn't been convicted" is weaselly as hell because a bunch of people got poo poo on from a high altitude in the Tara Reade thread for less. And you know that.

I think that Trump, Biden and Assange are all rapists and none of them are convicted. And if someone came into the Tara Reade thread and said "I don't know whether he is or not but words have meanings and he's never been convicted but have you considered the political angle" they'd be poo poo on, and rightly so, and it applies here too.

Please feel free to let me know how I can make my stance more clear to you.

# ¿ Jun 21, 2022 00:32

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