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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I've seen transphobes cite this article as proof that trans people shouldn't be allowed in sport https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/11/577.full?ijkey=yjlCzZVZFRDZzHz&keytype=ref

but it actually shows that there's no advantage in performance after just 1-2 years of treatment except for running, which declined and might further decline with time.


So it seems like a pretty easy choice. Politically though it seems like it's bait for chuds and more conservative dems.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Jaxyon posted:

Yes get familiar with "12%" because that study is one of the only ones in existence that shows any sort of advantage at all and the bigots will use it as a bludgeon til the end of time.

Absolutely this. It's so NOT about fairness that if you actually try to address the fairness argument they'll just get confused and angry as to why you're talking about anything but making GBS threads on this one group.

It's hilarious because even the conclusion mostly refutes their talking points.

Is anyone familiar with the studies this rear end in a top hat here cites: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/txo13s/comment/i3nbtov/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

The first one is the same (of course) but there are a bunch more: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-020-01389-3, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25377496/.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Jaxyon posted:

I'd to point out 7 pages in not a single person has disputed my first post in the thread with any substance(data, studies, statistics) whatsoever including the person who posted frankly horrible things at people in their PMs before getting banned.

My hope was that this thread would involve people making misguided but at least vaguely logical arguments against, and then getting disproven with the science.
Well I'm on the same page, trans people are their gender and should compete as such. I don't really care about professional sports either way so they can do weight classes or whatever to make it "fair".

That said there are 2-3 papers I posted earlier that I didn't have time to review yet. I just want to have a clear understanding of the science to shut up transphobes.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Lol someone's getting probated for that :v:

I don't think a few examples would prove anything really in a way that actual statistical analysis would. But it's definan argument that gets busted out by the transphobes.

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