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 Based on the book Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley, and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty of the 1980s by Jeff Pearlman (found here) and exec produced by Adam Mckay after a split from Will Ferrell based on casting the Larry Bus, it chronicles the 1980s Showtime era of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team, featuring notable NBA stars Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Here's a funny bit from the wiki: On April 20, 2014, Ice Age 2-screenwriter Jim Hecht flew across the country to the home of sportswriter Jeff Pearlman. He pitched an adaptation of Pearlman's best-seller Showtime: Magic, Kareem, Riley and the Los Angeles Lakers Dynasty that would be similar to Friday Night Lights. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Hecht brought Pearlman a bottle of nonalcoholic wine, a block of chocolate, and a tomato as an offering to convince Pearlman to sell him the rights to the book. "I had no money, so if he'd been like, '$30,000,' I would've been screwed," Hecht recalled. Pearlman, who had optioned several of his books where "nothing ever happened", agreed to let Hecht shop his book around town for a year. In 2015, producer Kevin Messick convinced Adam McKay to direct the pilot and produce.[36] As a non-basketball fan, Winning Time has been the surprise hit of the year so far. Funny, biting, dramatic and hilarious, it places you rooting for certifiable underdogs near collapsing under debt and expectations. The feel bad for a billionaire show of the season. Winning Time has just been renewed for a second season, so it's time to start a thread on this great show, and see if they actually score a win on their season finale. I'll stop now. Gif time!  
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I love the hell out if this show and I can’t stand the goddamn Lakers. But it was perfectly cast; especially Dr. Steve Brule as Dr. Jerry Buss and Jason Clarke as Jerry West. Last night’s episode was great. Jack McKinney shouting “gently caress my diiiiick!” after coming out of the coma. 
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Apr 11, 2022 10:55
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I honestly have no idea if this show is actually good but it’s charismatic as hell and a very enjoyable watch
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Apr 11, 2022 13:07
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This show is a very fun Sunday night diversion.
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Apr 11, 2022 18:41
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Very watchable and fun show Nitpicking since just about all the dialogue is made up the Norm Nixon country jokes don’t really land when he grew up in Macon, Georgia in the 50s and 60s lol
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Apr 13, 2022 13:59
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I can totally envision Jerry West losing his goddamn mind at a radio broadcast of a basketball game in the back of a limo. That man hates the Celtics. Gonz fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Apr 18, 2022 |
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Apr 18, 2022 08:41
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Gonz posted:I can totally envision Jerry West losing his goddamn mind at a radio broadcast of a basketball game in the back of a limo. That episode brought back some memories of going to the Garden. It did a great job capturing the feel of the city and its people.
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Apr 18, 2022 12:14
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Escobarbarian posted:I honestly have no idea if this show is actually good but it’s charismatic as hell and a very enjoyable watch exactly. I think it's good when it's exploring the relationships between characters, like Dr Buss and his daughter, or briefly Kareem and Magic's dad, but the rest of it? poo poo it's fun to watch so that's all I care about.
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Apr 18, 2022 13:28
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That scene between Kareem and Magic’s dad was excellent yeah
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Apr 18, 2022 14:49
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Jose Oquendo posted:That episode brought back some memories of going to the Garden. It did a great job capturing the feel of the city and its people. lol, love how it crystalizes my feeling towards Boston. Jason Clarke is loving amazing in this. I didn't know he could do comedy. Is Larry Bird really that much of an rear end in a top hat?
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Apr 19, 2022 04:23
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Shageletic posted:lol, love how it crystalizes my feeling towards Boston. Yeah Clarke is really good and just disappears into the character. As for Larry? I don't know. I'm not too familiar with him. From what I've seen in documentaries he was a 'normal' dude who mowed his own lawn and poo poo. There was definitely a rivalry between them but eventually they became good friends with Magic. Maybe that's something they'll get into eventually.
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Apr 19, 2022 04:27
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Larry and Magic played against each other in college, and played against each other in the NCAA Finals in 1979. He was also famous for being an all-time trash talker so I think he definitely had an rear end in a top hat streak but he and Magic had and have a genuine affection for each other I think pre-dating their pro days.
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Apr 19, 2022 05:06
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Larry had a bit of a professional feud with Magic up until the mid 80’s when they got to know each other better (and became friends) while filming a commercial for Converse (which depicted them as bitter enemies). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmkwzqG4How When Bird retired, Magic showed up at Bird’s retirement press conference and described him in glowing terms, and when Magic was inducted into the HOF, Bird was the guy who formally inducted him.
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Apr 19, 2022 05:23
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Also, Magic deciding to take 100,000 bucks a year from Converse instead of Phil Knight’s Nike offer ($100,000 in stock options and $1 for each shoe sold) cost Magic $5,200,000,000. Magic, to this day, says he gets angry when he sees Nike stores at malls because it reminds him of that deal. 
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Apr 19, 2022 05:33
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I don't know much about basketball in the 80s, should I read the book for extra context or can I go straight in to watching the show?
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ultrabindu posted:I don't know much about basketball in the 80s, should I read the book for extra context or can I go straight in to watching the show? The show tells you what you need to know. You could check out the book in addition to the Celtics/Lakers 30 for 30.
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Jose Oquendo posted:The show tells you what you need to know. You could check out the book in addition to the Celtics/Lakers 30 for 30. Keep in mind the show constantly changes factual details for minor narrative points.
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ultrabindu posted:I don't know much about basketball in the 80s, should I read the book for extra context or can I go straight in to watching the show? I know absolutely nothing and I'm having a ball with it. They tell you everything you need, anything else is just icing
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Apr 19, 2022 20:20
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Paul Westhead has to be watching like “WHAT THE gently caress “ They are painting him as a generational loser
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Apr 20, 2022 00:14
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Gave the show a try after hearing good things about it but I didn't like it at all. It's a bunch of trite sports drama tropes wrapped up in Adam McKay's condescending style.
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Apr 20, 2022 00:35
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I think the problem is Buss and Magic need to be our protagonists and thus Westhead needs to be a sort of antagonist in order for him to get fired and it not being the machinations of a prima donna star and a meddling owner.
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algebra testes posted:I think the problem is Buss and Magic need to be our protagonists and thus Westhead needs to be a sort of antagonist in order for him to get fired and it not being the machinations of a prima donna star and a meddling owner. Westhead didn't get fired until his third season with the lakers. If anything he's going to get a redemption arc this season and Buss and Magic's stories are going to get darker.
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Apr 20, 2022 02:42
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The pushback has started Think piece article by Kareem on how much he dislikes the show and Jerry West is demanding an apology and retraction even though he’s coming off cool as hell to me
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algebra testes posted:I think the problem is Buss and Magic need to be our protagonists and thus Westhead needs to be a sort of antagonist in order for him to get fired and it not being the machinations of a prima donna star and a meddling owner. The thing I like about the show is that no one really is the antagonist (other than the Celtics). Everyone is painted in shades of gray.
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this show is my childhood but from a lakers fan side. loving amazing. thank you for making the thread op. and yeah larry legend always had a reputation around here of being a huge rear end in a top hat but he was our rear end in a top hat.
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Apr 20, 2022 03:21
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It's good to hear that KAJ never told that kid in Airplane to gently caress off. Still a funny moment though.
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the_american_dream posted:The pushback has started https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33769604/jerry-west-demands-retraction-apology-portrayal-hbo-series-winning ESPN posted:... But John C. Reilly's Jerry Buss is loving fantastic! bawfuls fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Apr 20, 2022 |
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On the other hand, you can watch Jerry West cameo in Magic Johnson's first NBA game and he looks pretty drat intense. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLkdc9cUueE Dr Buss also makes a cameo.
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Jerry West is in that clip for about 3 seconds. Sure he looks intensely focused on the game, but that's a far cry from throwing poo poo through a window and screaming at coworkers in an office.
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After watching the first five episodes, if I were Jerry West or the family of Chick Hearn I would be pissed because they come off bad.
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The premiere sucked but once McKay was not in the director’s chair the most annoying tendencies were toned down a bit. Now it’s highly entertaining if not exactly great. It’s crazy how many good actors keep popping in. Also the West portrayal as an intense control freak just seems par for the course for pro sports coaches. I agree that Chick Hearn comes off as the biggest rear end in a top hat relative to his reputation as a beloved icon. Pat Riley and Spencer Haywood should be upset that their 30-something selves are being played by 50-year-old. Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Apr 21, 2022 |
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Apr 21, 2022 15:00
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Oh yeah Chick Hearn is a tremendous rear end in a top hat in this show
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Hearn and Westhead look terrible, Kareem is Kareem and Jerry West is coming off like an extremely competitive West Virginian
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I'm really enjoying this show but I kind of wonder how accurate is of the characters its potraying several coming forward to lambast their potrayal and even like Jerry West demanding a apology.
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Westhead doesn't look terrible. The character is flawed and struggles with bravery but I ,er... find him intensely sympathetic.
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At this point you shouldn't believe any of the portrayals are remotely real. Except for Larry Bird.
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Oh I know all about Larry Bird. I grew up going to Bad Boys Pistons games, which is easily the greatest sports heel faction of alltime. Bill Laimbeer could've easily been the third man at Bash at the Beach instead of Hogan.
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Larry Bird comes off as a major rear end in a top hat was that just how he acted?
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nooneofconsequence posted:At this point you shouldn't believe any of the portrayals are remotely real. Except for Larry Bird. I refuse to believe Adrien Brody's Pat Riley isnt 100% accurate
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What was that Last Dance quote "you bitch, gently caress you"
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