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Adrianics posted:I will say that I loved the playoff montage done via the passes on the court That was really cool.
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This show and TikTok are quickly making me realize that because of the rise of Jordan in my youth, I missed out on a decade of Larry Bird highlight clips.
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I like this show's Larry Bird but I haven't been feeling the rivalry angle between him and Johnson or the Lakers and Celtics as much this season. It feels like they wanted to soften Bird and Auerbach (and most of the rest of the cast except Westhead), which is probably for the best since they're based on real people and relatively recent events but as TV characters I like them best when they're acting like huge pricks. They keep saying how much beating Boston means to them and how nothing else matters but the hate bus needs a little more fuel IMO.
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I finally watched ep6 this afternoon and the montage pacing they went with felt like a show with no expectation of being renewed. It wasn't bad, but we went from spending 3 or 4 episodes to cover a few months of time, then one episode to speed run everything from June 1982 through May 1984. Just peculiar but since I have been wanting them to get to this point I guess I got my wish.
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Sep 17, 2023 23:16
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I think it's less fear of nonrenewal and more being forced to deal with a 7 episode order while maintaining their planned timeline.
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Sep 17, 2023 23:22
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I think the time jumps have been handled ok, you need to cherry pick the big moments unless you want the show to run forever. And the magic/bird showdown is the main event. I really hope we get a 3rd season though to see magic and Bird becoming friends, and magic's retirement then comeback with the dream team. Of course that would mean finding actors to play half of the hall of fame so that would be a big ask. Agree with the criticisms re Buss this season though. As much as I love John C Reilly, the character just isn't interesting any more. It was fun in the first season to see this outsider come in and shake things up etc. But at the end of the day, on a sports team there is no individual less interesting to me than the owner.
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cohsae posted:I think the time jumps have been handled ok, you need to cherry pick the big moments unless you want the show to run forever. And the magic/bird showdown is the main event. I really hope we get a 3rd season though to see magic and Bird becoming friends, and magic's retirement then comeback with the dream team. Of course that would mean finding actors to play half of the hall of fame so that would be a big ask. If we do it won't be from HBO. https://www.vulture.com/article/winning-time-canceled-season-2-series-finale-explained.html The ratings weren't good enough to justify a renewal so they canned it. The ending we got tonight was an alternate one they shot in January just in case.
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Sep 18, 2023 03:16
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The show is heavily influenced by the structure of the Showtime book. Pretty much everything that happens barring most of the Buss family stuff is something described by the book or a narrative device to describe something from the book. Pearlman does a good job sketching out some specific games during seasons but the nature of a tv narrative means you're not going to spend time exploring all of those games. When the plot chops past a good deal of the timeline it's because it's chopping past a book section that is thin on drama or glory for the Showtime legend.
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Sep 18, 2023 03:17
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I haven't watched the finale yet, but drat... https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1703592042603962563?s=19
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Sep 18, 2023 03:19
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Well that loving sucks, what the gently caress.
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Sep 18, 2023 03:27
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Handsome Ralph posted:Well that loving sucks, what the gently caress. *Jerry West voice*
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Sep 18, 2023 03:28
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That loving sucks. Some really great performances. Reilly is doing his thing. Chiklis, Quincy Isaiah, Hughes killing it too. Brody and Clarke (who has quickly become one of my favorite current character actors) are so good in it.
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Sep 18, 2023 03:49
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drat I wanted to see what they did for Bill Laimbeer.
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algebra testes posted:*Jerry West voice* LOL, I heard it in the exact same voice, before I scrolled down and saw your post.
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I’m pissed we’re not gonna get any more of Famed Basketball Psychopath™ Larry Bird.
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Sep 18, 2023 05:39
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”No it ain’t, Mama.” I didn’t realize the show was cancelled until I saw the montage. Do these clowns from Discovery have anything in the hopper other than lovely GoT spin-offs? Or do they think people are gonna subscribe to Max for House Hunters?
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Sep 18, 2023 05:48
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Everything with Buss and his family is so boring. They should've just made a show about the Celtics/Lakers rivalry. You still could have had all the team buying plot and drama. Just none of this extraneous garbage. e: I just got to the tacked on ending. lol. Ooooof. nooneofconsequence fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Sep 18, 2023 |
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Sep 18, 2023 06:33
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That Honey plotline is even more dumb now.
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Sep 18, 2023 07:55
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That tacked on ending is a loving shambles, the gently caress were HBO thinking?
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Henchman of Santa posted:drat I wanted to see what they did for Bill Laimbeer. Same. And reactions to Magic always kissing Thomas on the lips from that era.
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Sep 18, 2023 16:21
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Doesn't surprise me that much, given how much production is in this one. And honestly, they didn't have two seasons of material unless they were going to go into new characters, possibly, y'know, not Lakers, but all we got was a little bit of Larry Bird.
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Sep 18, 2023 17:34
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Absolutely brutal that this show gets cancelled with the Celtics winning and a Poochie-esque “I have to go now, my planet needs me” rushed ending.
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Sep 18, 2023 18:26
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I’m sad now. First perry mason now this What is there even to look forward to on hbo
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Sep 18, 2023 19:16
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Reality shows. Thanks Zaslav! Seriously, between this and Perry Mason, just say Righteous Gemstones is done so I can go ahead and cancel my sub.
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Sep 18, 2023 19:40
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i thought that was the series finale of gemstones already
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Sep 18, 2023 19:41
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Gemstones got renewed. They just shot a season finale that can work for a series in case they needed it.
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drat, it kinda ended perfect. I want more but also, it had an amazing finale
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Sep 18, 2023 19:48
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I sorta understand why they did it but that “and they went on to do this” ending slideshow was such a loving tonal whiplash that I would’ve preferred if the series just ended on a downer even with the knowledge that it’s been cancelled. What a poo poo show lol
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A MIRACLE posted:I’m sad now. First perry mason now this I guess there’s Euphoria until the showrunner gets arrested for being a sex monster.
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I can't believe max couldn't find a way to sell this show. Five seasons of Ballers starring the most expensive actor in actual Hollywood and they can't make this work? This show should be a (kill me) slam dunk. I would love to see how the analytics and costs of those two shows match up across the first two seasons.
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Ghosthotel posted:I sorta understand why they did it but that “and they went on to do this” ending slideshow was such a loving tonal whiplash that I would’ve preferred if the series just ended on a downer even with the knowledge that it’s been cancelled. What a poo poo show lol I just got around to watching that last episode. Man, you aren’t kidding about the whiplash. I don’t know how much legs the show had left in it for future seasons, but man that tacked-on montage is awful.
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That was some Rome season 2 poo poo, complete with Adrien Brody going on an absolute heater a la James Purefoy. Goddamn how good would it have been to have a season of the Bad Boys.
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WTF they cancelled it? Just watched the finale and the tacked on montage threw me for a loop. I stupidly let me subscription renew for a year recently, but I’m cancelling my Max subscription. Things are just going down the shitter and with the strike even the one or two good shows are getting delayed until like 2025. They still have a good movie catalog, but it’s just not worth it. Plus I hate having all these awful discovery shows pushed on me all the time.
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Smeef posted:That was some Rome season 2 poo poo, complete with Adrien Brody going on an absolute heater a la James Purefoy. I don't think the Bad Boys were going to be there in season 3. If you ended in 84, you then have 85-86-87 which has 2 of 3 LAK/BOS finals.
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Sep 19, 2023 04:13
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I'm really bummed about this show finishing. Honestly the main thing for me was the acting. Everybody was so good all the time, the performances alone made it really compelling for me. Also I am an exceptional John C Reilly fanboy.
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GoutPatrol posted:I don't think the Bad Boys were going to be there in season 3. If you ended in 84, you then have 85-86-87 which has 2 of 3 LAK/BOS finals. Sure, but you would have to get to them eventually since this is about the eventual fall of the dynasty.
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Excellent use of "Shadows of the Night" that made me feel very sad that this has been brought to an end. For all its flaws, you cannot deny the amount of heart and energy that went into it from everyone involved. Some truly MVP acting from Brody in that episode. So much wasted potential, would have loved to have seen how they portrayed, ie, the Bad Boy Pistons and the arrival of Michael Jordan. The briefest hint at the eventual friendship between Johnson and Bird reminded me of my faith that they'd do a great job with that, too. All the way through Winning Time I kept thinking about The Last Dance, and how there's this mystique about NBA athletes from the 80s and 90s, like they were world-famous but you ultimately knew nothing about them or what went on off-the-court because this was a pre-social media era. I think that's why the plots with the Buss family were so poorly received this season, absolutely nobody gives a gently caress about that compared to the drama happening within the team and front office because those are the details that went unsaid at the time. Adrianics fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Sep 19, 2023 |
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Sep 19, 2023 08:59
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GoutPatrol posted:I don't think the Bad Boys were going to be there in season 3. If you ended in 84, you then have 85-86-87 which has 2 of 3 LAK/BOS finals. Magics best friendship with Isaiah should probably pop up a season earlier than when's he eventually plays him in the Finals and beats him, and then when he loses Kareem in the Finals and loses to them. Plus they and the Celtics are fighting for the East and meet in 87 where Bird gets that ridiculous steal to beat them. I was looking forward to that too, but I have an obvious bias since my username change was based on making fun of their draft pick.
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Honestly, if Buss was a side character and McKay had any sense of economy in storytelling, I think he could've gotten the whole dynasty done in 12 episodes, and it would absolutely be better than what we got. I'm just not that interested in the Buss drama, it feels like trying to foreshadow a twist but it's not a twist. I would've loved to see the Vlade Divac story myself.
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I know that they probably made promises to Reilly to convince him to commit to series but they probably should have done like a Ryan Murphy-esque anthology approach season-by-season as to whoever the main character is, like Buss in season one, Westhead in season two, Reilly in season 3 etc. They clearly had no clue what to do with Buss after season one.
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