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A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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I misread the pitbull one as eldritch humor and now I want to know what a stand up comedian who does eldritch humor would sound like

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A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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precision posted:

imagine if they managed to prove that thoughts occur 0.0000001 seconds after the action we think they refer to, proving forever that we literally don't have any control over our actions and only think about them after they happen

Do you think that would change anything about how society is structured?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Can the person who had access to the text ai try these things:

1. Cooking recipes
2. Aphorisms


I'd be curious if any interesting output came from those.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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This would be interesting to see visually, imo.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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That one is easy to see it got hung up on the word ultimate

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Where's the beef!?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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If you were making a board game and needed art, could you just use one of these to generate it all? What is the cost structure or is it totally free at the moment to use the art for whatever you want?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Yeah, I wasn't sure if there was some proof or watermark or something built invisibly into the output or if every output was being stored with metadata so they could make a case if something got huge commercially or something.

It's just a weird thing to think about, given how striking and high quality this stuff has become.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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precision posted:

ultimately i think it's like, there's no real incentive for the people behind DALL-E to go after you, so even if they say "don't use this for work" it's more of a wink wink sort of thing

I mean, the people who invested millions in the design and pay for the cost of the hardware and promotion etc aren't going to want money back? I get right now it's all building awareness and stuff with people gushing on Twitter, but surely they have some kind of business model in mind, right?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Can someone do a still from an unreleased live action Calvin and Hobbes movie by a director of your choice?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Oh man, the EverQuest ones are interesting. Anything with a really definitive style ends up pretty cool--the underwater juggalos, the trail cam ones, etc.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Can someone try people or monsters or animals in the style of a first edition ad&d monster manual?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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strange feelings re Daisy posted:

None of the models I tried knew who David Tempier or David Sutherland were so I had to use a more generic prompt of "Dungeons and Dragons monster, simple line art"


Latent diffusion kept trying to render a literal dark sun

Disco Diffusion using "Dungeons and Dragons Dark Sun illustrated by Brom"


The simple line art ones are great! That makes me think there could be a fun game where people add captions and speech bubbles to random line art prompts to make weird comics.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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This Is the Zodiac posted:



Wario, portrait by Joel-Peter Witkin

Is that a piranha plant?? Crazy

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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I feel like already more content gets created everyday than you could absorb in a hundred lifetimes, so I don't know that it will make that much of a difference. It'll just be disposable like much of the content that's created by humans is.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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great, now you've summoned Officer Ghost

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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The paladin holding the sword that way is actually pretty interesting. It adds a level of symbolism to it, reminds me of a tarot card.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Foot Lettuce sounds intriguing. Does it taste like feet? Or look like feet? Smell like feet? Or are feet somehow involved in its preparation, like stomping on grapes to make wine?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Black August posted:

I want to see what 2 can do after a year of iterating off of mass user inputs and refinements to better teach it what people want to see and mean by certain phrases

Do you rate the pictures after they're presented to say if it matched what you were going for or not? Or is it sophisticated enough to just somehow understand based on if you tweet it out that it was probably correct?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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TIP posted:

it reminds me of when I used to stare at the wood grain on my closet door until I'd see things in it

I remember one specific patch that always looked like a detailed drawing of the hookah smoking caterpillar from alice in wonderland

apophenia

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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How detailed can the prompts be? Like if I wanted to see a "demon with no head, two right arms of different lengths and no left arm, skunk face on left knee, and wearing a rainbow jumpsuit with dozens of pockets", is there some special way you'd have to organize the prompt to output what you want?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Tunicate posted:

for midjourney not really, it kinda mushes things up



for Dalle you can select a portion of the image and repaint it, so the skunk knee should be fairly easy to do using that method (as far as I know)

That's kinda what I thought would happen, thanks for running it through! I'm sure as they get more sophisticated, you could have multiple details like that and it would produce things that were closer.

Most of the good ones seem to lean on stuff in the style of famous artists or use a famous person that already encapsulates those kinds of details, it seems.

Like, describing Buddha's or Kermit's physical characteristics instead of using the actual proper name would probably lead to less interesting outputs.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Tunicate posted:

did some monster manual covers in midjourney



Man, I really want to see more old school D&D art, that newer style just does nothing for me. I doubt it has enough exposure to like DCC RPG style art to make a real go at it, though. Maybe in the style of 60s fantasy paperback would get something closer?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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KakerMix posted:

I'm not familiar with the specifics of this art, but I did like a ton of the line art from Shadowrun books in the 90s

"1965 Dungeons and Dragons monster manual line art"







"1965 Dungeons and Dragons monster manual inked line art of Medusa"






I removed "inked line art" and it spit scary stories to tell in the dark style out:





Changed the prompt again, this time to "1965 Dungeons and Dragons monster manual art of Medusa, full color"






Dall-E is super context sensitive, and I find that specifying a year rather than saying something like "the 70s" makes it stick closer to a particular style, even if it doesn't exactly get it right. These are all cherry picked of course, but the first runs, I didn't iterate on any of them.

Now that is what I'm talking about! Very cool! That's exactly the style I was imagining and personally find really evocative. It's cool to see it able to channel that style even if you don't mention the specific artists.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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doctorfrog posted:

What happens when the internet begins to fill with AI-generated images, and the AI generators begin training on AI-generated images?

Broke: in the style of Dali
Woke: in the style of Dall-e

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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The yard sale reminds me of that one image that looks like reality but then you're hard-pressed to describe anything that's actually in the picture. Like maybe I can make out a blue garment but primarily it just has like the essence of a yard sale.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Bloody waterslides reminds me of a really hosed up Megg, Mogg and Owl strip, so gross

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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It's weird that would need teased out, you'd think part of the academic or research team documents would explain how they intended to handle that kind of bias in the sample set.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Wheany posted:

Well, one benefit of running something locally is that it's disconnected from the panopticon. You can be as horny as you want.

Huh, so you think every image generated is stored along with the prompt and user info? I guess it's naive to think that wouldn't be the case, it just seems like the output generated in most cases is probably meaningless.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Tunicate posted:

Talked with one of the developers, the filter on DALLE is a combination of a wordlist ban and some sort of machine learning classifier (I'm guessing GPT3 since they have it in house).

After noticing that virtually 100% of generations using the phrase were trying to make porn, they banned 'furry' and 'fursona'.

LOL, they should just give the people what they want

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Thinking about it, are there actual ways to tell if an image was ai generated or 'real'? Like is there some secret watermark that would always be present or something?

Just trying to imagine what weight photographic evidence or even video will carry in the future, if ai can generate such things convincingly.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Everything is so based on existing art (obviously), I'm curious if you combined the text ones with the image ones if you could get a pitch for a new IP with concept art and plot ideas, from a well worded prompt.

And then theoretically even scripts, though a lot of the text stuff I've seen seems to forget what's happened or who is in a given scene, so there's probably more sophisticated models to come.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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I like the homebrew diy version of Monopoly

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Really, everyone should just start wearing outlandish masks everywhere they go in public and adopting fake Internet names. Then any kind of deep fake surveillance couldn't be used anyway, since anybody could have been wearing that mask.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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KakerMix posted:

No it's exactly what is happening, Dall-E is altering your prompts before you get your image. The data is in the model, they are intentionally and deliberately not giving you what you ask for.

Up until recently they had it against the rules to generate realistic looking people at all, they are exceptionally conservative with what they allow you to see.

So it transformed "zoidberg" into "red anthropomorphic crustacean man" or something before passing that on to the ai?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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I guess I would imagine the model doing a basic Google image search, at which point, the hundreds of thousands of images of zoidberg that look like zoidberg would inform the output.

It's not like the prompt was for something really obscure, like a third string Dickens character from Bleak House.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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mobby_6kl posted:

Well it works now. I nuked everything and started over with this. I think an issue was that some stuff failed to install automatically and I did it manually with the pip installer, but that hosed up the environment creation. No idea why it would fail to find the OptimizedSD module though as that has nothing to do with installed packages. loving python.

Anyway it's also extremely slow on a 1070. Only uses 3.7 gigs so maybe there's quite a bit to be gained by actually using all 8 gigs.

E: ah ok the default prompt makes 20 images. So about 1 minute / image. At least it's free :v:

The default prompt is pretty poo poo but it did get some cool results too.


You managed that stuff on your 1070?? I have a 1080 ti and just assumed getting a local instance of this was out of reach.

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Do you think someone will make an easy way to install this locally? Or will you always need to know python and stuff to do this on your own machine?

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Mozi posted:

this guide worked for me for getting this running locally on Windows

my av!



That's really sweet! I might look into this given the 1080ti I have sounds like it could be beefy enough, even if it's not as quick as a newer GPU.

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A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

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Is Virgil Finlay known by the models enough to be used for bad rear end black and white fantasy and horror stuff?

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