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It's been a bit since we've had a feedback thread and we all thought it was time. Please post your thoughts, questions, comments, and other assorted feedback about how we're doing as mods in this thread. We'll plan to keep this open for at least a few days but will be closing it up once it inevitably devolves into bickering, recriminations, and general namecalling, as all feedback threads eventually do.
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paul_soccer12 posted:you should win prizes for posting lots of people are getting those avs with putin kissing other world leaders, that's a kind of prize i suppose
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Apr 27, 2022 19:50
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bedpan posted:Like yeah it's out of place, but until this forum (by which I mostly just mean the admins and Jeff) actually starts dealing with the amount of people posting weird holodomor denial poo poo, it's pretty loving strange to be nuking anyone who brings up that the site has a huge problem with people just openly denying the holodomor. How we handle this in C-SPAM is that anyone denying that the Holodomor occurred, that is denying that there was a famine or positing that fewer numbers of people than academically accepted died, is gonna get probed. the question over whether it was genocide directed by the Soviet authorities towards Ukraine is an unresolved academic question and, as such, we do not probe for saying that it was an intentional genocide towards Ukraine in partiuclar, nor do we probe for saying that it was the result of bad Soviet policy but not intentionally designed to kill Ukrainians, nor do we probe for saying that it was essentially a natural disaster. Frankly, I don't know enough about the issue to debate one direction or the other but that is where we are at policy-wise.
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Apr 27, 2022 20:31
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AnimeIsTrash posted:we already have a feedback thread OP yeah, but i just can't tolerate you stealing my thunder
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Apr 27, 2022 20:46
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Cloks posted:i would like to see better posts official forums policy is explained in the header
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Apr 27, 2022 21:37
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well it isn't a thread until i get got i guess
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Apr 27, 2022 23:12
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bedpan posted:im still laughing that the call to have Jeffrey of YOSPOS put before a firing squad came from a Games poster replying in a QCS concern troll thread about CSPAM radicalization QCS is consistently the funniest forum on the site, and it's not even close
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Apr 27, 2022 23:22
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stir up trouble posted:seems like a good reason to close cspam then
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Apr 27, 2022 23:40
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The Voice of Labor posted:I especially like that someone paid holodomor denialist jeffery of yospos tenbux to get me what I'm pretty sure is remember the holodomor av. Yep, when you buy your new av, you can put [i mg]https://fi.somethingawful.com/images/chinagang.png[/img] only without that initial space, it'll count against the total number of characters but still let you upload your own image
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Apr 27, 2022 23:48
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I got a good gang tag for you. mean!
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Apr 28, 2022 00:11
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the drat things could be in a supply shed in turkmenistan for all we know and some radium fuckery prevents them from being physically relocated
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Apr 28, 2022 03:34
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dang it Smythe!
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Apr 28, 2022 05:15
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Harold Fjord posted:Too many posts. We'll be turning on slow mode forum wide starting at midnight to address this.
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Apr 28, 2022 18:21
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As mods, we would like to acknowledge that the forum we shitpost on is on land that rightfully should be governed by Hillary Clinton. We acknowledge the painful history of the 2016 election and that it was her turn, and we honor and respect the many diverse discords still connected to this forum on which we gather.
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Apr 28, 2022 18:29
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YOU'RE MORE POPULAR THAN ME! IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR!?!?!?!
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Apr 28, 2022 21:52
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Unfortunately, cumshitter is going to stay perma'ed. Even though Alec goaded him and I'm generally sympathetic to him, what he said was way over the line and we do take a very hard line towards doxxing and threats of such.
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Apr 28, 2022 22:07
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Daniel Dales Dick posted:If anyone had stepped in and given cumshitter a cooldown probe it never would have come to a perma. Yep, and that's why we've significantly expanded the mod and IK roster since then. But it doesn't change that, at any point, he could have just not said he was going to doxx Alec, at that point it would have just been something he would have gotten a little time off for, maybe a ban but he'd be back. But he didn't, he said he was going to doxx Alec and that is one of the worst things someone can do on the forums.
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Apr 29, 2022 01:50
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Filthy Hans posted:hell, give alec dolphin's perma too as long as dolphin promises to not kill and eat any mods i feel like they shouldn't make promises they don't know they can keep
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Apr 29, 2022 02:04
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Daniel Dales Dick posted:I'm sorry, I just can't imagine quitting because someone else is posting too much. Alec wasn't even aggro, people went on the attack whenever they saw him post. It was weird, and if they feel more comfortable posting on the discord instead of the forums, let them post on the discord. It's not like they came back. Multiple people PMed me to tell me such, and from what I can see it was true. His posting was demonstrably driving away other poster whether you believe it or not. Daniel Dales Dick posted:Alec had a bunch of haters because he tried something new. Punishing that was stupid. Azathoth already admitted they didn't have enough staff to moderate effectively during that time. If he had faith in his new mods and IKs, he could bring back Alec and Cumshitter and there wouldn't be a problem the mods couldn't solve. The problem with Alec was not that he should have been modded "better" but rather that his schtick was allowed to continue for as long as it did. When I came on as mod, I tried to get him to change his ways to be more in line with a harmonious thread, he actively resisted all that and refused to help the Trump thread be anything other than the Alec Eiffel thread. In the end, he decided he'd rather be permabanned than not be the star of the thread. Is it possible that earlier intervention could have stopped him from going full psycho? Sure, it probably would have, but he was given ample opportunity to step back from the brink and chose not to. I have no reason to believe that if he were let back in that he would not just do the same poo poo. Unlike cumshitter, I have no sympathy for Alec and the community is better off without him.
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Apr 29, 2022 04:14
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Daniel Dales Dick posted:Is that against the rules? Being so annoying that multiple better posters leave the thread? If you need a "rule" saying not to do that, you've got some hosed up D&D brain going on there. But since you asked, yes rule 3: quote:Even if you aren't breaking a specific rule to the letter, if you're making consistently lovely and bad posts we will come down hard on you so don't do it! This includes being a huge rear end in a top hat for no reason and getting too personal with your insults.
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Apr 29, 2022 04:21
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Daniel Dales Dick posted:"Don't make life hard for Azathoth" is not a forum rule. Free Alec and Cumshitter both. Isn't it about time for you to ragequit this account in a huff and start a new one?
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Apr 29, 2022 04:21
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Daniel Dales Dick posted:I'll outlast you, bithc.
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Apr 29, 2022 04:26
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Hey, so about that main character rule. I have it on good authority that it's something I made up.
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Apr 29, 2022 04:26
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Daniel Dales Dick posted:It's definitely something mods made up in order to ignore the queue. Effective moderation would fix 90% of "main character" bullshit, which is just people having disagreements. It is rare to see someone argue so effectively or forcefully for their own banning, but who am I to tell someone how to live?
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Apr 29, 2022 04:30
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It's a little known fact but we can't actually prevent permabanned posters from reregistering. They just need to use a different email and, most importantly, not post like they did when they got permabanned. Alec and cumshitter could be here right now, reading this post from their shiny new accounts and we would never know. Well, unless someone who looks suspiciously like Alec in Groucho Marx glasses and a fake nose starts posting vlogs, or someone talks about how disappointed they are in their straight son. As a matter of policy, we do not go looking into whether someone is permabanned unless they start to repeat the posting patterns that got them the perma in the first place. If they can be normal, decent posters there's very little danger of ever being found out, and many formerly permabanned posters do this and eventually acknowledge their old accounts even. But the first step in that is proving they can be decent posters anonymously.
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Apr 29, 2022 04:42
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Filthy Hans posted:does this mean the poster formerly known as Crazy Cloud can post under that name again I'm unaware if the admins have put any specific prohibitions on them using their old name, I'd have to check if they'd like to do that, but aside from that I don't see why not.
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Apr 29, 2022 04:49
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The Voice of Labor posted:combine two posting trends into one: main characters but only posting syq you're like Victor Frankenstein but instead of creating life in your laboratory you come up with the shittiest ideas known to man
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Apr 29, 2022 04:50
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Filthy Hans posted:I can't remember specific instances but I vaguely recall some perma evaders had cleaned up their act but then got ratted out by posting enemies and the perma was enforced on the new account And honestly a lot of this depends on the severity of what got them perma'ed and how much time has passed. I had someone PM me a while back asking about a decade old perma, checked with the admins and they came back just fine. Permabanning someone can't permaban the person, the site isn't set up for that. As someone smarter than me said, what it does do is permaban the posting persona. That identity is burned. If someone can come back and be normal and fly under the radar, there's no problems. CODChimera posted:why the hell are we constantly trying to 'free' everyone then That's a very good question.
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Apr 29, 2022 05:17
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Smythe posted:probably happens on occasion. issue here is many perma'd ppl are notorious to some degree so if u let them live after being publicly outed you get a huge crew of their enemies (and/or sensible people who think they're bad for the forums) marching around for the forums chanting "HYPOCRISY!!" and such. This.
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Apr 29, 2022 05:18
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The Voice of Labor posted:bring back voice validation like what people used to do for wwiv boards. also warez gonna be real happy when the lightning storm over your lab moves off
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Apr 29, 2022 05:21
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TheSlutPit posted:This is the excuse of a bureaucrat but whatever you do you. I'll give a slightly different perspective than Smythe on this. First, it's important to acknowledge that there's effectively two kinds of permabans, single act and lifetime achievement. In single act, the person might otherwise be a fine poster but did something so beyond the pale that it was felt necessary to remove them from the community forever. This is stuff like pedo poo poo, doxxing, nazi poo poo, etc. In lifetime achievement, it's not that any single act that they did was so heinous it demands immediate removal but rather that they have a long term negative effect on the community that rises to such a level that they need to be removed AND talking, probes, bans, and community pressure have failed to make them a good enough poster to not warrant removal. The critical question with applying a ban to a rereg of a permabanned account is whether we think they're going to engage in the behavior that got them permabanned in the first place. With single act, the thinking is generally that if they did something once, they can do it again and no one wants to wait around for that to happen, so they're removed immediately. This is pretty intuitive, if someone is outed as enjoying pedo parasite dick rape mpreg porn, no one wants to wait around for that to work its way into their posting even if all they're doing is posting anodyne takes on the stock market. With lifetime achievement folks, it does get a little more complicated because with the passage of time, people can and do change enough that they might be able to be trusted to not repeat the same patterns of behavior that got them in trouble in the first place. This next part isn't official policy, and to be clear, I am just speaking for myself and how I would handle a hypothetical situation where this arose. If someone had a lifetime achievement perma and reregged and flew under the radar for a sufficiently long time that I didn't personally think they would repeat the bad behavior, I would take it to the admins and Jeffrey and see if they were willing to lift the perma. Every situation is going to be unique, so i'm not saying that the perma would necessarily be lifted mind you, but that would be how I would personally handle it.
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Apr 29, 2022 16:42
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AnimeIsTrash posted:fat hamburger man
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Apr 29, 2022 17:24
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AnimeIsTrash posted:This seems like a bit of a stretch to me. If you didn't actively read the behind the bastards thread in RGD you would have never known he's a goon. Were there more instances of him saying that? I don't care enough to go digging for exact quotes about random people and not mods but I do remember that it was something he would wish on fellow posters from time to time. My memory, and it may be faulty, is that he switched over to doing weirdly elaborate things like "choke on a fishbone" because just wishing death on people he was arguing with was a bit over the line for his buds or maybe he just didn't want to eat probes/bans. Regardless that's something that's always going to be cracked down on for the same reason that we edit out posts of people discussing killing themselves. Seeing poo poo like that can be genuinely triggering for people who struggle with suicidal ideation, to say nothing of telling someone who might privately be dealing with suicidal thoughts that by accident. It's a community protection thing. And frankly it sucks because I like Larry as a poster and genuinely find him charming and funny, but he'd have to rein it in to have his perma lifted and if he could rein it in, he wouldn't be Larry.
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Apr 29, 2022 18:47
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Alec, I genuinely think that you should detox yourself from these forums, they're not good for you and you're not good for them, but yes if you can come back and be normal and it's good for you and no one goes "oh yeah that's totally Alec" more power to you. That post will cost you $10 however.
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Apr 29, 2022 19:49
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VokGd5zhGJ4
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Apr 29, 2022 20:06
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I should point out that when I'm talking, I'm only referring to probes that are C-SPAM focused and other forums have their own standards. As this thread is about C-SPAM, I would prefer that we not go into D&D stuff here.
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Apr 29, 2022 20:44
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10 bux is fine posted:I talked you about posting quietly and a stray admin wanders by and bans me anyway. I like you Az and I think youre doing a fine job with CSPAM but lets not pretend you have any final say with how its run Never said I did, but at the same time you really should anticipate that admins are watching a feedback thread and when I read your first post even without having an admin check the tools I knew who you were. Honestly you're fine in C-SPAM, if you could just keep out of D&D I doubt folks would have a reason to do alt checks on your accounts.
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Apr 29, 2022 20:51
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Calibanibal posted:I also have no incentive to follow the rules, simply because I'm too powerful to be punished. it's true, i once tried to give you a 6er but before i could fill in a reason i passed out and woke up two days later, buck naked in a cornfield a mile outside of town
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Apr 29, 2022 20:52
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Majorian posted:Cards on the table, I'm the one who stole your shoes while you were passed out. I don't have an explanation for the rest of your clothes. gonna blame the grays and try not to think too much about it honestly
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Apr 29, 2022 20:54
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Sherbert Hoover posted:lol azzletooth ngl i laughed at that one
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