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Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jul 4, 2008

Cease to Hope posted:

deny, accuse, reverse victim and offender. wifebeaters like depp do it because it works.

Can't the exact same thing be said about Amber Heard?

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Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jul 4, 2008

Cease to Hope posted:

she's never denied hitting him. she didn't accuse him of anything publicly until forced, and indeed sought to hide her injuries at the time. she sought to break contact with a TRO and then a divorce, not extend it long after by launching multiple lawsuits.

particularly telling is the rape accusation; it's the most salacious accusation but it didn't come up publicly in the divorce and she sought to keep it private during the UK trial.

I mean thats not true, she's denied multiple incidents of hitting him. No one forced her to write the Me too OpEd, which sparked Depp's law suits, and she tried to initiated defamation arbitration before Depp filed any lawsuit. She was leaking stuff to TMZ. There was evidence Johnny was going to file for divorce and she beat him to it. She lied about donating millions to charity.

In one case, the SA claim only came up after another witness saw her attacking Depp so she claimed he SA'ed her to justify assault.

I guess with someone who keeps lying and making stuff up and submitting doctored evidence, how do you trust her at all?

Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jul 4, 2008

Cease to Hope posted:

what incident of hitting him did she deny? what lawsuit did she file besides the TRO and divorce?

sorry, there've already been a bunch of people saying poo poo that turned out to be blatantly false, so [citation needed]

It trial there was evidence before JD filed any lawsuit she tried to go to arbitration, contempory article referencing it: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/johnny-depp-amber-heard-legal-documents-shed-new-light-dual-abuse-accounts-1171081/

"I didn't assault Johnny ever" https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1526559836762017792

Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jul 4, 2008

Trial started with 11 jurors 4 of which are alternates. 2 had to drop out for various reasons. 2 were alternates that were randomly eliminated after listening for 6 weeks, right before deliberations.

Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jul 4, 2008

Cease to Hope posted:

from 2013 to 2016, yeah, he did

didn't you ~watch the trial~

Actually Amber alleged it started in 2012; since the early stages of the relationship. That was after she said under oath previously it was in 2013.

Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jul 4, 2008

Cease to Hope posted:

Then surely you can list examples.

In court, excluding the allegations of abuse:

Donating money to charity.
Leaking videos to TMZ
Photoshopping pictures and claiming they are different pictures ()
Using the same photo as evidence in two different "incidents"
Claiming a trailer was totally destroyed by Depp, only for the owner of said trailer to say there was just a broken lamp costing $60.


Cease to Hope posted:

Depp assaulted both Heard and her sister.

The topic was PREVIOUS romantic relationships

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Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr
Jul 4, 2008

All of those are false.

Cease to Hope posted:

weird, so are you saying all of those were true? they're the important things here.

anyway
- she pledged the money to the ACLU and donated a portion; that was put on hold when depp launched two lawsuits that were going to be quite expensive for her. this is common with donation pledges when something happens like a pair of expensive slapp lawsuits

She had the full divorce settlement for something like 1-1.5 years before Depp filed his lawsuit and she didn't fulfil it. Despite saying publicly she already donated the money.

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- you're looking at a video of depp threatening her and destroying their shared home and you're concerned chiefly with who leaked it. the allegations of leaking are she-said she-said
Heard recorded the video and sent to TMZ and tipped them off about her appearances. TMZ reporter testified that they got the copyright to the video (which only could have come from heard) for the video so she lied on the stand in front of the jury. Credibility matters.

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- you're looking at pictures of bruises from assault and saying they're fake with no evidence other than your desire to disbelieve them
Amber testified under oath that those were 2 different pictures, one taken with the lights on and one with the lights off. But the time stamps are identical and every strand of hair is exactly the same. I would love to hear your explaination for that.

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- this is so vague that i'm not sure what you're referring to
Did you not watch the trial? She showed the same pictures of spilled wine/damage for 2 separate instances, months apart.

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- this isn't a lie, just a minor inconsistency, which is pretty common when people are recalling traumatic physical abuse. how would she know the exact dollar amount of the damage anyway?
totally destroyed vs a broken lamp is a big difference. Again demonstrating her history of exaggerating and lying.

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you were just saying that nobody said they saw depp abuse heard. not gonna reconsider your conclusions at all, confronted with new evidence?
The question was about past romantic partners, youre changing the subject. stay on track!

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