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Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

i was depressed and then i decided to come off all my meds and everything was ok forever (to be continued)

# ¿ May 13, 2022 00:46

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 00:11

Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

undertale is a good game if you are depressed, it is a bunch of depressed friends waiting for you in your computer. if you are not depressed undertale might be an annoying game though. maybe a good way to work out if you are depressed or just sad

# ¿ May 13, 2022 00:48

Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

roomtone posted:

this might piss people but but i'm really sceptical that a lot of what people talk about as depression is anything more than a functional response to a life that has become lovely, combined with a bit of peer pressure to acknowledge the world is hosed up.

there's so much talk about mental health nowadays that i think it's the first thing people turn to in order to explain what's wrong with their lives, partly because a lot of the times the problems are so complex and intractable due to their economic roots, but also because i think it takes a bit of responsibility off you to personally do anything about it. i did it myself for a long time and it's only when i changed my perspective on this stuff that i've felt better.

but it's a process i went through - had to realise that yeah, capitalist society has played a role in isolating me like this, i'm not broken for finding work extremely draining. then had to realise that these things don't mean i get a prize for having the worst possible reaction to them by only seeking escapist means to feel better. i wasn't depressed at all, i had learned helpnessness about my life and was using a bunch of excuses - capitalism, alcoholism and 'maybe i'm depressed?' - to justify it and continue seeking low quality kicks where ever i could without actually having to try.

i'm not saying anything against seeking mental health help if you haven't done it, but i did it for a long time and it honestly didn't get me very far because my problems weren't clinical. they were material and personality based, and those things CAN be changed with the right attitude and a bit of concerted effort. people who work in mental health have a limited remit, they can't address the complex social reasons you are in the situation you are in many cases because they can't actually do anything about them. so they give you CBT therapy, maybe put you on some antidepressants - these are the tools they have, but they might be useless to you.

if you have a real mental illness, then okay, but i'm not talking about that and i think inside, you know if you are kind of bullshitting it for the reasons i've alluded to. i know some people on here have serious mental illnesses and i'm not talking to everybody with this.

i'm also not saying people aren't legitmately unhappy, but i am saying that 'the world sucks!! life sucks and can't be improved!!' is a cultural meme right now. people will regurgitate this sentiment while putting absolutely zero thought into it, putting aside how legitimate the complaints are (i am a socialist, i agree). but that's something happening that is happening on a social scale. still a real problem, but as far as improving your own life goes, not the same thing at all.

precision you have some specific complaints about being lonely and you seem more pissed off about your life situation than depressed about it to me. i think you would feel much better if you started identifying some small things you could do to make benchmarked progress. they don't have to be big or come straight at the loneliness thing but as soon as you start doing things and see any kind of positive result, you'll probably feel differently. not fixed, maybe, but in a different mental space where the available moves will feel different and may include things you have not considered at all so far.

situational depression presents similar symptoms as clinical depression and you can't necessarily just communism your way out of it i really hope this helps you not say things like this in future

# ¿ May 13, 2022 00:53

Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

precision posted:

but i appreciate what they said i think it's one of the more helpful things that has been posted

situational depression is still depression with all that implies so it's usually very hard to just bootstrap or reconceptualize your way out of it, and the overall attitude of "it's often not depression you're just loving up" is unhelpful lol. I almost definitely have situational depression rather than clinical but the situation is multi-year and has been basically untractable (it does improve sometimes but there's nothing I can do to cause that to happen, it just sorta happens on its own and has lots of ups and downs).

for the rest of it depression can cause a nasty feedback loop with social anxiety. you are or feel like you're depressing to be around or are a drain on your friends so people treat you more like that. depression does that with a lot of things. it just generally makes everything moderately to a lot more exhausting. also intrusive thoughts, definitely not fun.

# ¿ May 13, 2022 09:45

Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

good news: we are all in it together

bad news: we all have depression

# ¿ May 13, 2022 10:22

Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Depression is pretty much unheard of in hunter gatherer societies. It seems like civilization is the problem and so the solution is that we should all go out and poison the water s of our discontent. With medication.

yeah they never died in car crashes either

# ¿ May 13, 2022 14:47

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 00:11

Saint Isaias Boner: Jan 17, 2007; hi how are you ♥

id rather not have depression, personally

# ¿ May 13, 2022 16:38

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