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I genuinely wouldn't have been excited for Image if not for Wizard, and them being monthly in a way made up for the actual Image comics that never were, but boy howdy Wetworks #1 is coming some day! Also looking forward to when we get to what felt like essentially rigging the back issue market when it comes to the low print run Valiant stuff.
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Soonmot posted:that entire top ten is Marvel. In 1991-ish at least they certainly weren't popping like X-Force and X-Men and the metric of 'this is really popular' Wizard was using.
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Jun 3, 2022 22:49
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"Part of X-Force's charm is they KILL people." Also learning Bart Sears worked on the COPS toyline makes a lot of sense in hindsight given their design.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:WildC.A.T.S. OKS, we might have gotten the same first issue of Wizard. On topic, that Simonsons interview does make me get a lit of wistful since they'd do more of that in the early days. Heck, what got me onto Cerebus (mixed bag that turned out to be) was a big article on it in Wizard.
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Jun 8, 2022 04:34
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:I never got into Wizard, though I followed it's trad games cousin InQuest for a while. That said, I did get the Wizard JLA special issue and must have read it 100 times. InQuest also used to be really good about talking about the less than mainstream stuff before it was just Magic & Friends.
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Jun 8, 2022 14:00
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Now it does seem almost like Wizard was priming the pump to manipulate the back issue market by going hard on Valiant.
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'Robin III on the way!' Don't you threaten me. 
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The Toddster posted:"To tell you the truth, because of the success that I have gotten, I've got more sympathy to the people that are in a successful position." And that's why Image doesn't have a union.
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Jun 10, 2022 21:46
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Harbingers #1 selling for pocket change now feels a little like vindication. A lot of comic stores don't carry it because of the print run, which is not the same as not having it because people want it.
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Jun 11, 2022 15:21
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TV Zombie posted:I remember Shi, mainly because of what it was infamous for. What was that? I just remember it being Yet Another 'bad girl' comic. Also fun fact, at my comic store we had an entire box of the Shi/Cyblade comic.
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Jun 13, 2022 13:11
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Soonmot posted:Six valiant titles in the top ten! It becomes funny when even in the recaps Wizard starts to say things like 'it's not that they're important issues BUT THOSE PRINT RUNS THO."
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Jun 14, 2022 23:08
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For some reason I read 'first appearance of H.A.R.D. Corps' and just laugh.
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Jun 15, 2022 02:31
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You know in my ten years working at a comic store I never saw anybody try to bring in those Valiant issues to try and fund their kid's college education like they did with your X-Forces and Death of Supermans.
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Jun 15, 2022 18:14
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Splint Chesthair posted:The only money I’ve ever made from colllecting comics came from Ultimate Spider-Man and The Walking Dead. I bought them because I love Spider-Man and zombie movies. Any comics I ever bought as “investments” turned out to be worthless. Yeah, I sold my first 50 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man back to my store at peak interest and did okay. I have some technically valuable comics with like Amazing Spidey #298-300 but I've also read them so they're nowhere near mint. Or near mint.
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Jun 15, 2022 19:47
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The ad about Cain from Harris Comics made me laugh thinking about it. The bad girl craze is about to break out, they're Vampirella's company and they decide to make a comic with a dude. Canny as a fox.
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Ah, yes, it was in fact Rai #4 that explicitly had nothing going for it aside from there weren't many copies and nobody bought it. I asked the owner of the comic store I worked at who had been in the business for decades and does pretty high end Gold and Silver Age back issue stuff if he ever bothered with the Valiant comics in the early 90's and the answer was mostly a blank look.
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Endless Mike posted:Wizard's Top 10: Where Are They Now?? These are always interesting. To bring the feet on the ground perspective as it were, I've been able to visit a lot of different comic stores over the southeast, to say nothing of visiting others at cons and a few things stand out about the Valiant books. First, these early 'first generation' runs you probably won't find because small print run. If you do find them, the price tag depends on the age of the owner to what they're priced at. If they were of an age reading Wizard when it was coming out, then they'll probably be 5-10 books with things like a few of the #1s (and things like the first modern appearance of Turok) being in the realm of pricy. If they were older or younger, quarter bins. Even the trade paperbacks had low print runs, just because they were expensive to make. I remember finally reading Harbinger, I believe it was, in trade and being super stoked because they talked it up for AGES and being very underwhelmed. I decided to stick with New Warriors. Edit: Also LOL at the last Wizard review. "Alpha Flight's Shaman can count himself among the hottest characters today."
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Sim hadn't gone Full Dave at that point, but it was the first interview in Wizard that got me reading Cerebus (that and a combination of him showing up in that issue of the Mirage TMNT which I read via the First reprints). I remember having my mom order the first phone book. I did a book report on High Society and never bothered to tell them it was a trade because it wasn't technically a book but it was certainly more gripping than anything else I'd read at that point. This was also about the time Sim started on Mothers and Daughters where the first story arc felt like a sort of return to form after Jaka's Story and Melmoth but then it's where the cracks really started to show, ending with the male light and female void and bah.
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Kid Fenris posted:I recall the anime and manga section of Wizard being pretty good by the time I started reading the magazine (1994, maybe 1995). It was written by Carl Gustav Horn, who's a respected writer/editor/translator these days. They spotlighted a bunch of interesting series. It had that thing of early Wizard where they'd talk about something interesting before giving way to just focusing on whatever was popular.
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Endless Mike posted:#7 Youngblood #2 (First appearance of Shadowhawk): This is a weird one. One copy sold for $20. Another for $10. A slabbed 9.5 sold for $15. I guess we can call this Wild. Almost all early Image stuff was dollar bin fodder for us. Spawn was the exception.
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Fun fact: We had an entire box of nothing but Deathmate issues at the store. The only way we got rid of them was putting them out for an early Free Comic Book Day.
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Endless Mike posted:I love the Deathmate article saying they'll definitely be out on time, and really, Image's lateness issue isn't an issue at all. That early bit when Image was trying to be a singular universe is pretty interesting, but it's not too surprising that didn't last long for a variety of reasons. You can already see it falling apart with Jim Lee saying Homage Studios bowing out of any future crossovers. I believe at this point in time Liefeld had already started to throw his weight around and put off the other founders.
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Madkal posted:Three robot arms! With three guns. He is three times the man Cable is. Whereas WildCATS was Jim Lee's team he made as a kid (along with the writer, whose name escapes me) Cyberforce feels 100% Silvestri going "X-Men but messing with dials."
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twistedmentat posted:I totally bought Gen13 #1 because I thought it might be worth something. Also babes. It's still not a dollar bin book if that helps. The mini-series was always hard to find. Some of the variants for the ongoing are also kind of up there. (I am slightly curious what the highest slabbed copy of the cover which has Fairchild and Grunge doing the infamous Janet Jackson Rolling Stone cover goes for, but not enough to look.) Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Jun 25, 2022 |
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Conrad_Birdie posted:Todd Nuack!!! I forgot he got his start with Extreme Studios. He's a super nice dude in person, too. Endless Mike posted:I'm glad to see Rai #0 is still the hottest poo poo around As it will be forever. 
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Darthemed posted:Seeing praise for Jim Balent’s art is surreal, to say the least. A shame there was never an article on his breakdown over being taken off Catwoman.
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Is Todd mad at retailers not getting what they ordered?
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I see that 'Todd complains about the industry' is going to be a thing in his column.
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BooDooBoo posted:It's about as good as we can expect from Wizard in '93, but in keeping with the book itself. Pretty much. Although they eventually put the original soul(?) back in Mantra's body and she had a magic pregnancy, so that's nice. The guy who'd been in her body got his own body back and hung around for a bit as her boyfriend because... I don't even want to try and untangle those dynamics.
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Some interesting bits in there, like talking about the first cancellations from Image Comics and a sign it wasn't just a money-making juggernaut where every series was a surefire hit. (Shadowhawk sort of proved that initially, but it kept going.) I think people being very excited for Peter David is charming.
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The nostalgic days when Stephen Platt was a thing because he 'kind of drew like McFarlane.' Good times.
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So I wonder if everyone in Wizard were able to get their money out of Valiant and pivot or dealers just kept saying "lol, no" and Wizard decided to stop pushing it.
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Oh, wow, are we into the era of 'Peter David gets into slap fights with Image creators?' Good times. Good times. 
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I wonder if Todd still calls Rob when he's bored because he knows he'll be laughing hysterically in no time.
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Balent did not in fact stay with Catwoman until he got tired of it, he got bounced when they decided to go with the beyond vastly superior Darwyn Cooke redesign/relaunch. He's been doing his Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose series for years so he's doing fine, so it all worked out. (He even sort of talked about it in the interview with talking about sword and sorcery women, which one can infer became Tarot.)
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ManiacClown posted:Do I remember correctly that Tarot is the "Your vagina is haunted!" series? That's the one. I had a friend who reviewed the series on his blog and that was a peak.
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PAD enjoys writing about sex, which is fine. Whether he's good at it is another matter entirely.
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TV Zombie posted:Does Crossgen publication time concide with Wizards run? I’m wondering how they covered it They talked about it, I remember that much. I don't think they tried to push it like they did Valiant, though.
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funtax posted:My pet theory that I'd add is that most of the founders didn't actually LIKE making comics. As soon as the money started rolling in and it seemed like they could do just as well paying other people to take on the artistic duties, nearly all of them pushed back from the drawing table and only ever returned for "special" projects after that. Larsen is the clear exception, which is why Savage Dragon continues to come out like clockwork with Larsen responsible for nearly all aspects of it. It's also the only founding Image book that I think actually holds up for modern readers. That even seemed to trickle down to things like Cliffhanger years later. Joe Mad and Campbell immediately took all the option money they could - which I stress is fine, get that paper - and only Humberto Ramos seemed to want to put out work regularly.
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Madkal posted:gently caress I forgot about Battle Chasers. I have the trade somewhere. I kind of liked it and was sad to find out that the series was pretty much dead. When we get to him it'll be interesting to see if Wizard talks about Joe Mad taking the world by storm. I mean, I'd bet money they did. He was quite the revelation with the manga-esque style at the time. I remember liking him a lot. Especially which ever Age of Apocalypse X-Men book he did.
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