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StumblyWumbly posted:Pretty sure we have plans to attack everyone not in NATO and a few countries who are, and we've had plans like this for 50 years. They do this for practice a lot fo the time. Drafting up a hypothetical plan to invade Canada involves most of the same skills as drafting a plan to invade Iran, so when US planners need to refine their plans, they'll often use allies as a target because they can then compare their plan to things like local troop strengths that they weren't given in the partial planning phase to see their accuracy.
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Weird that the pool consisted entirely of hard drive melting acid, but I guess it makes sense why they had to drain it.
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The Independant says they are going to be asking for espionage charges and that Meadows has flipped. if the latter is true.
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cr0y posted:Espionage act violations are really loving serious charges. Yeah. I was decidedly meh on the NY charges for the hush money stuff because while technically a crime, it very much felt like a case that wouldn't have come around if he wasn't who he was and would likely not amount to much even if they won beyond the embarrassment of 'former president did a crime' This, uh... This seems like a crime that might see him in an actual cell. That and, if they flipped Meadows, then I think it is a fair assumption thry might have him for Jan 6th/Georgia bullshit as well. Caros fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:O my loving god yes. There was reporting on at least one conversation where Meadows had to explain to Donald that no, you can't take all the classified poo poo with you. That and refuting Trump's 'I had a standing policy to psychically declassify documents' lie are probably helpful.
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cr0y posted:Lol not it won't Yeah, the path is either Michael Flynn or Michael Cohen. If you leave prison a true believer then the deep state railroaded you into a guilty plea. If you still stand by your statement then you are a deep state plant.
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Jun 7, 2023 22:26
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:For those seeking confirmation: "Trump says he has not been told he’s being indicted in federal investigation". And what more do you need except a denial. Presumably they wouldn't tell him he is being indicted until they actually win the indictment from a grand jury, no? Edit: Also, the https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/07/trump-mar-a-lago-classified-documents-investigation seems to disagree, and Donnie is a liar, so idk. Caros fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I honestly don’t get the left-wing shade for Mueller. His job was to report to Congress, which he did. That there wasn’t the clear collusion everyone “just knew” was happening wasn’t his fault, and he clearly laid out several impeachable actions which weren’t actually actioned. Sounds like the real beef here is with the Legislative. Because the man cared more about decorum and his career/legacy than about honesty. Trump obstructed justice, they found obstruction but couldn't charge it due to the bullshit Nixon memo. But rather than say that they wrote an absurd report of 'well we' re not, *not* saying that he committed obstruction. Then he stood by while Bill Barr straight lied about their findings. If he had any loving balls he'd have treated that as the direct, corrupt interference that it was and said flatly that 'Yes I believe the president could have been charged with obstruction'.
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bobjr posted:https://twitter.com/meidastouch/status/1669393498389512192?s=46&t=CBKJcBX0BD3U5HgUdsqBtw I guess the internal decapitation finally took on this one, sad!
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Jun 15, 2023 18:54
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Link John Eastman disarmament hearing, for anyone who wants a laugh.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Why did they allow him to come to his disbarment hearing with military-grade weapons and only just now attempt disarmament? ... Goddamnit autocorrect. I will attempt to salvage my cred by pointing out that the judge showed up with a 7-11 big gulp, which is about the funniest thing I can imagine a judge bringing into a disbarment hearing. Edit: Peter Navarro was withdrawn as a witness, probably because he had his own contempt hearing tomorrow and doesn't want to do a cross continental flight. Which, lawl. Caros fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jun 20, 2023 |
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Tayter Swift posted:Disbarment, disarmament, dismemberment, make up your dang minds! All of the above.
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eke out posted:they're admissions of a party-opponent (you can google this phrase if you want to know more about hearsay rules but really no one should), making it quite possible the government could literally play some of these tapes to a jury to show his knowledge of the documents. you might reasonably argue that these statements can only hurt him I can't imagine a world where the state being able to play 'if I had them and they were still classified that would be illegal' would be helpful. Honestly it feels like he's just sort of stuck. His whole life he has been able to bluster out of things, but the court doesn't really *do* bluster as a legal defense.
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OgNar posted:Because he doesnt know how to do anything else. I'm really curious on the legality of this. Trump is obviously scum, but if you lose making a claim in civil court and keep making that claim, is there not some angle for defamation? I'd guess this gets tossed, but I'm just curious on the actual legal arguments behind it.
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Lammasu posted:Jack Smith won't get out of bed unless you have audio recording of Trump admitting to at least three felonies. This actually seems fairly reasonable. If I've got a fresh diet coke in front of me I'm not going to walk all the way over there for more of the same.
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Jul 1, 2023 21:45
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Fifteen of Many posted:Trump TROOFED that he got a target letter from the Jan 6 grand jury. Happy indictment eve to those who celebrate. This would be the federal grand jury, but that still leaves Georgia this month or next, right?
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BiggerBoat posted:That's a lot of words to say "witch hunt" More like 'Which hunt?' amirite?
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I for one, support this trial date. Trump will have clinched the nomination by May, at that point, assuming conviction, you have two comedy options: 1. Republicans nominate a convicted felon at their convention. 2. Trump is convicted and the convention becomes a clusterfuck.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:The actual question is, Just how many convictions will T have by the convention, and how many by November? So far it looks like more suing in Dec for being. Rapist, porn star hush money in March, storing classified s secrets in a bathroom for may and then some. Light racketeering/insurrection anywhere from June to after the election.
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CapnAndy posted:May seems... fine. It is worth mentioning that May is likely as early as we can get in part because of the other trials. The three stooges effect of all his crimes means that they can't have say, a March trial date, because he needs to be in NYC for a different criminal trial.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Different lawyers are involved aren't they? Why couldn't the trails happen at the same time? As others said, right to attend. Theoretically he could waive that, but given it is in his best interest to delay as many of these as possible (his plan really does seem to be 'win office and never leave') I don't see why he would. Even as an option I'm not sure the state would bite as it opens up an avenue for appeal.
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Barracades are going up outside the Georgia courthouse. Is it possible we get the legendary same day double indictment?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:If Trump's attorneys just had the meeting with the special counsel today, then they probably aren't announcing an indictment in the next 3 hours. Let me have hope Damnit.
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The Bible posted:No group reads the Bible less than Christians. Shut the gently caress up about aliens. This is crime chat and it is crime time.
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Google Jeb Bush posted:reminder that Oliveira is the guy who allegedly flooded the server room in a pool related mishap You are missing about six thousand quatation marks around pool related mishap.
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Comstar posted:New thread title please: Never saw nothing. Cosplaying as Johnny Tightlips is definitely a legal strategy, I will give him that.
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Tayter Swift posted:My goal for my indictment reading is to figure out if Rudy is Co-Conspirator 1, 2, 3, 5, or 6. Money's on 6 but 3 is a strong contender. 1. One of the quotes is 'we don't have evidence, we have a lot of theories' and that is a Giuliani quote.
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DTurtle posted:Yes. MSNBC has 6 as Ginni Thomas. Oh. Cool. Supreme court judge's wife is a Co conspirator with the president of the US. Cool. Cool cool. I can't see any way this backfires in a 6-3 ruling.
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Memnaelar posted:He'd recuse and it'd be a 5-3 ruling. C'mon now. On the other hand the supreme court is on a real 'you can't loving tell us to have ethics' binge as of late. I agree with the other poster tho. 5-4 with Roberts desperately trying to cling to the concept of legacy and legitimacy. Lammasu posted:The stupidity of these people is astounding. John Oliver quoted it for a completely different scandal but 'stupid watergate' really is the catch all for every trump scandal.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Trump has lost all his Supreme court election cases by 7-2 or 8-1. Why would this be different? Because it would involve criminal charges against a sitting Justice's wife. To be real, I don't think that they'd actually do it. I really would like to think it'd be 7-1 or whatever slam dunk with Thomas recusing, but the fact that I'm nervous when I make the joke is unsettling in the same way that I feel weird thinking back to dinner with my parents where I joked about how trump should win the nomination for the easy slam dunk victory.
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Lammasu posted:Was Guiliani always this stupid? I mean he looked kind of competent during 9/11. But I couldn't sleep so I stayed up all night watching Animal Planet so my perceptions could be skewed. Jules used to have a bit of a brain in him, yeah. He was always a bit of a clown once you scraped away the topmost layer, but the man just imploded in the mid 2000s and I am convinced he suffered serious psychic damage from being burned, by Joe Biden of all people, with the whole 'it takes him three things to make a sentence, a noun, a verb, and 9/11" Realtalk though he appears to have serious substance abuse issues and I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't trying to walk the us into a fascist dictatorship.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Link to this? 18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured— They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death. - I doubt it meaningfully applies here since no way they charge that, but you can make the direct argument that traitor lady died as a result of his actions.
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Don't threaten me with a good time. Edit:  - Your Honor... Insurrection? DEATH.
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AhhYes posted:I wonder why #6 is so hard to identify. Could it be some kind of professional courtesy? Like "we'll do you the favor of waiting for 24 hours"? Largely just that the others have a bunch of identifiers. You can look at #1 and link it to an exact quote Giuliani made. You can look at #2 and go 'oh, yeah, that is clearly John Eastman' 6 is tough because it is a political consultant (there are a million) with no direct quotes or links to stuff they did. That said, it is Ginni Thomas. 100%
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mdemone posted:I'm still thinking it's Stone. I don't know who else has private numbers of GOP senators that would have been described as a consultant. No, you need to understand. While it could be stone, it is Ginni Thomas. I deserve these laughs. cr0y posted:Trump's argument that this is all a hoax and a witch hunt is going to end up working out because no sane person is ever going to be able to believe that someone is capable of committing this many crimes. Ah, the Sam Bankman-Fried defense.
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ArmyGroup303 posted:So when is Georgia gonna jump in on the dogpile? "August".
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https://twitter.com/AntiToxicPeople/status/1690826659430354944?s=20 So apparently Trump just retweeted a photo of the judge posted by someone else. I'm sure this won't end up in a court filing.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Election polls over a year outside of an election is just a meaningless trivia fact outside of anything besides short-term campaign strategy. (e.g. "people X don't seem to like Y, I will do Z") Hell, polls during the election are often useless. See Also: 538's model showing Bernie in the lead right up until the entire democratic establishment dropped out and coalesced around Biden.
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mdemone posted:Georgia indictments coming this evening. Prepare your bodies. For context, they didn't close at 5 as scheduled, and all the witnesses scheduled to appear are already there. Chances are they just want to bang out the last hour or two. Also fun fact, to get bail in Georgia you have to prove there is no risk of witness intimidation or obstruction. Which , given trump did a witness intimidation on twitter should be a hard sell. In a sensible world, anyway. Caros fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 14, 2023 |
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Zotix posted:Cool that the strongest case gives ammo to the chuds by having a document leak on the court page early. Yeah that is fairly cringe. Doubly so since I'm sure they will come up with some lie about how they already indicted him before the grand jury signed off, even though the leak was just a list of what they were after.
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