Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Whatever the reason, the guys going to be famous now in law circles for a long time to come. How many other lawyers can say that? I say good for them.

I mean yeah, they should probably still be disbarred though.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Jaxyon posted:

He literally just has to stall with bullshit until he becomes president in 2 years and clears himself of all wrongdoing.

If he wins, or when ever the next republican gets in there's a fair chance they'll just do it. Honestly their seems very few republicans who might run that wouldn't, wither they be Trump aligned or just see it as an easy way of showing to their base they're ain't democratic enough, who wouldn't.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

They can hang out right outside the cell like any other guards

I mean for the SS that would be pretty much the ideal person to keep safe. know where they are all the time, don't have to deal with the general public, large events or anything like that. Just need to vet the guards and any other -of probably very limited- amount of other prisoners he interacts with, and done.

Like most of their job would be done for them.

PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

Well at least we've identified one question they'll be asking during jury selection. "Raise your hand if you feel a past president should receive special treatment if found guilty of a crime".

Oh god jury selection on a case like this would be insane. Reminds me the SNL sketch regarding OJ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSahneOul10

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Sep 3, 2022

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Judge Schnoopy posted:

What the gently caress is happening

Ah just the normal poo poo show that happens around anything trump is remotely involved with.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

eke out posted:

the kingdom of saudi arabia gave jared a two billion dollar investment so my money's on him, if anyone, being the one that actually did some sale of state secrets

I feel like anything that involved jared and state secrets would get very Burn After Reading very quickly.

Actually for pretty much any of the trumps.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Froghammer posted:

Obviously the deep state killed the real Sydney Powell and replaced her with a clone

The clone seems like a better person. Good job deep state!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Biden Biden.

The Biden they don't want you to know about. The most Biden of Biden's.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Ms Adequate posted:

If I was escaping serious legal consequences for my part in a conspiracy to end American democracy, I would lie so low that the Dwarfs of Moria would be the only ones who could hope to find me.

Personally I would of just of been an awesome enough to succeed in end American democracy, unlike those losers. :smugo:

But yeah, this is one of those things, where the only people who are going to get involved in it are such broken people that dealing with all the fall out, they are obviously just going to gently caress everything up. Sensible well adjusted people who don't just constantly gently caress up just chose not to be involved in any of this.

See also: Alex Jones bankruptcy trial.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
I'd assume you can nominate them, and if it's a solid state for the other party they may not be a problem.

There have been plenty of candidates who have run who haven't been on the ballot in even nearly every state.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Gyges posted:

The GOP would probably just run whoever the VP candidate is for the possible Colorado EC votes. Which would set up a theoretical situation where Biden is Pres and has a Republican VP.

With how powerless -unless it's a Bush case where they specifically give them power- would this effect anything other than having the tie vote in the senate and possibly being sorta funny.

Was a time when the VP was just the runner up in the presidential race so you know normally the opposition.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
The Chicago 7 and their layer famously got a whole bunch of contempt of court charges and jail time handed out. As that trail was a circus -and many lawyers, not involved in the trail, at the time were opening questioning the judges decisions- and did end in a mistrial, it's probably more of an example of why judges wouldn't hand out more jail time for contempt of court rather than then why they would.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
was... was he making a coat?

:ohdear:

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Haha, it's amazing how such openly weird and lovely people some how keep making it on to the US national political stage.

God drat does republican party just love voting for top tier trash people.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

I feel like the emolument clause has probably been used and expanded upon since loving Washington.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Captain_Maclaine posted:

It was a painting from the French Ambassador, if I remember right.

Oh it was a saucy painting then? No wonder he was to embarrassed to declare it.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Dalmuti posted:

I'm a level 69 vice president

lol, I can still easily defeat you as the US election is a free to play game, with in game paid purchases, so I just brought the most stupidly expensive game item that can just basically automatically defeat you.

lol get rectk fuckin newb!!!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Look as someone who is elected to the US Federal Government, you can either be elected as an Officer or a Gentlemen. Obviously as president you are elected to be a Gentlemen, so as to be gentle to those whom over you rule.

Um, although maybe at least one of those terms need to be updated a touch.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Haha, the judge was obviously so sick of poo poo. Good for her tearing him a new one.

Hopefully the two ladies in the case do manage to get a good chunk of change. Rudy certainly doesn't have $148 million, but he might still have quite a bit hidden away.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Cimber posted:

Its almost like the Alex Jones legal strategy of telling the judge to go gently caress himself is sub-optimal.

But I heard judges looked really favorably upon you when you do that. Showing dominance and what not.

This is also why at the start of any case you should piss on the prosocutors table, the judges throne thingo, and the jury box, just to mark your territory. So yeah drink a lot before you go in.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

gregday posted:

The stay order means Jack Smith must be frozen in suspended animation or else that’s trying Trump in absentia.


Your Honor we object to the existence of Jack Smith and feel it is unfair to our client, we move the CIA use what ever time travel dehicky they have to remove him from existence so our client can receive a fair trial. ...maybe the judge too.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Eletriarnation posted:

How would they do that, outside of the context of a case coming to them about a specific president? Federal courts don't issue advisory opinions.

Then how did they issues an advisory opinion for every one to stay away from trump cos he stinks. Huh wise guy. :colbert:

Also, with all the different lawsuits against trump at the moment, does anyone know how much aprox it might be costing him/his campaign to fight them all?

I'd say it would be a bit, but he doesn't seem to be hiring exactly the best lawyers, so would this be more of a trivial cost for him?

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Ogmius815 posted:

Well, kind of. The Supreme Court only has jurisdiction to decide actual cases, it doesn’t issue advisory opinions. In other words, it doesn’t just settle abstract points of law; it only “says what the law is” in the context of dealing with an actual live controversy before it.

Seems the Supreme court would be much more efficient if the judges operated by judge dredd rules.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

SpelledBackwards posted:

The Onion has you covered, Judge Dredd reference and all. From 2008:

Supreme Court Rules Death Penalty Is 'Totally Badass'

Haha of course it does! The onion know in legal circles for it's legitmatly good legal briefs.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Oh I though Giuliani had been disbarred already. Apparently his disbarment is still going through:
https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/giuliani-urges-ethics-board-reject-dc-disbarment-bid-over-election-case-2023-11-02/

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
I mean doing more legal work for trump, unless he manages to bring down more charges on himself, won't actually change anything about his financial situation.

Rudy 100% currently isn't smart enough to remember to be asked to be paid in advance.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Although as you can chose to represent yourself without a license, if you're charged you can be lawyer one more time and they can't do anything about it!

The secret legal hack they don't want you to know!!!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

haveblue posted:

The only possible snag there may be that current Twitter management might not want to hand the info over, but defying a subpoena may be a bridge too far even for Musk

I mean musk has been re-tweeting pro-insurrection stuff of late and seems to be hopped up on one thing or another all the time now, so who god drat knows what he'd do.

Although pretty sure some fed office or other would of gotten all that off Twitter ages ago. Definitely before musk took over.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
I mean if Giuliani still isn't disbarred by then, they could always see if he was up for putting forward the "Trump had a secret evil identical twin who did all the bad things" gambit!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Would trump dying stop all his law suits? I thought he still had a few lined up that were business/personal(being sued and what not) related that might continue as they would just go against his estate?

Edit: I assume modern courts still follow the Pope Formose tradition when it comes to posthumous trials?

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jan 8, 2024

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Comstar posted:

Wait, one sec, backup. Are you telling me the state level trial of the century is going to get aborted because the DA had an affair?


Who wrote this script?!!

I'm still waiting for them to somehow try and bring back last season fan favorite Steve Bannon! ...or did he like die at some point?

How is there always so much stuff always happening around trump and why is it always so stupid?

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

FizFashizzle posted:

Atlanta law people on twitter are saying she is known and is not a hack.

That's annoying, but it does make sense that some people in trump's circle might actually still have enough brain cells left to try and get decent legal council.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
And there's record of at least quite a few of them saying some pretty strong words about what they planned to do before hand.

I mean it is easy just to type words on the internet though. Even the ones that were indicating they were planning more violent actions before hand I doubt would of done anything if there wasn't a massive eager crowd with them.

Two dozen or so old fat geezers in cameo gear would of been treated very differently if they had come to try and break into congress by themselves.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Hey if all the insurrectionists had taken their fashion inspirations from Cameo a certain famous someone would probably be alive today!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

The Lone Badger posted:

The real Sea People was rising sea levels all along.

No the rising sea levels is just going to be what makes it easier for the sea people to raid further inland during their inevitable return.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

A state conviction would be harder to avoid BUT there is a strong constitutional argument that an individual State cannot imprison the federal president without impermissibly interfering with the operation of the federal government, which again, probably a strong enough argument with the current Supreme Court to get him out of jail at least till his term ends.

Yeah as states being able to jail presidents could cause obvious issues. I assume the likely outcome would just be postponing the jail time until after their term(s?) ended.

Can just imagine a president skipping the inauguration of the next president and making sure their in another country by the time the next pres is sworn in. Can't really stop them at airport security when their flying airforce one. Wait do world leaders use passports? I can't imagine the US president being refused entry to a country because a Staffer forgot to pack it.

Edit: Maybe in Germany.

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jan 12, 2024

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

raminasi posted:

The president has a diplomatic passport with a special "the bearer of this passport is the president" endorsement. I assume someday Nic Cage will play a character who steals it so that he can legally sign some legislation or something.

A national treasure type movie where Cage steal the passport and starts country hoping on it, pretending to be the US president at every border would be amazing. While being chased by the actual -very furious- president and their entourage who the boarder guards never believe because they don't have the passport would be amazing.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
The one weird trick to getting trump to invest in luxury federal prisons that republicans don't want you to know!!!

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

cr0y posted:

Lmao trump is not cool or smart enough to be involved in mob business

He definitely has had involvement with the mob (both US and Russian) over the years, but I think as far as anyone can tell it was mostly just some light money laundering and new york union stuff and what not. Which yeah he was sort of a real estate guy with no ethic, makes sense.

dr_rat fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jan 14, 2024

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Lammasu posted:

From what I understand, the Mafia is the only group he didn't try and cheat. When his Atlantic City casinos went belly up he used his personal wealth to make sure the mob connected businesses got paid.

Coward

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Could he try to get a loan against up coming campaign donations? Is that even a thing you can do? Would any bank be stupid enough to do that?

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply