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Pureauthor posted:Game is officially a failure is we are not given the chance to make Shez and Byleth kiss, imo. Yet. We are not allowed to make them kiss yet. However I still want Edelgard to kiss Byleth. Shez should kiss Monica who is my favorite new character. The Shortest Path posted:To save this thread from months of tedious discourse on the subject I'd like to establish from the get go that Edelgard is objectively correct and everyone who opposes her is wrong and bad. This is all that needs to be said on the subject, thank you for coming to my TED talk. 
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Oh, we're spoilering demo stuff? I figured that would be fair game and just datamine stuff should be spoilered, but sure. I got the other assumption Kronya wasn't even bothering to try and act like Monica. It only worked because she had a gun to Edelgard's head and the faculty never paid much attention in the first place or chalked it up to ~trauma~. And it's interesting the different perceptions on Edelgard because my take from the demo is that this is the cold, ruthless, and calculating Edelgard we never got to see because Byleth made her friends with the other Eagles and she was head over heels for Byleth. I actually really liked how different she felt from the Edelgard of Crimson Flower, but is still the same character.
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Jun 10, 2022 23:12
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Allarion posted:There's implications that there's recruitment mechanics too, at least with the Ashen Wolves. Also Gatekeeper is currently in the Crimsom Blaze faction, but not playable in the demo. Time will tell if he turns out playable. Prime DLC target. One of the few given just how many people are here.
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Jun 10, 2022 23:13
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DC Murderverse posted:It would be kind of funny if the plot is that Byleth started doing time shenanigans to make everyone happy together and went crazy as they slowly realized that actually their presence actively made things worse (Dimitri goes full-boar crazy when he thinks they’re dead, Edelgard’s strategies get worse when she’s lovestruck, Claude’s laid-back vibe gets overtaken by dumb church bullshit) and has vowed to keep going though timelines until they find one where they are not a stick in the machine like some sort of magic Terminator who has apparently stumbled upon Shez as their John Conner I would accept that if the ending is Shez's dumbassness pulling Byleth out of it so she and Edelgard can be gay together. 
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Jun 11, 2022 00:19
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Cloacamazing! posted:I also found my only complaint about this game on the Black Eagle route: Bernie and Hubert only get a C support. This is completely unacceptable. Felix and Annette also only go up to B. Blaziken386 posted:what the gently caress This is a loving travesty and needs to be resolved asap. Hubert and Bernie have the best support chain and are super cute together! They're legit one of my favorite ships how could they do that?
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Jun 11, 2022 15:39
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Jon Irenicus posted:lmao that even Edelgard is taller than Caspar pre timeskip Edelgard somehow grew 4cm in this game. She's now 162cm instead of the 158 cm she was in Three Houses, even post timeskip. https://twitter.com/oratoza/status/1535915068591747073
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Jun 12, 2022 22:53
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Deltasquid posted:Claude was 175 cm in 3 houses (both pre and after timeskip) and is 177 cm in chapter 4 in three hopes. It's going around. Now we need to find out who else had their height change. 
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Jun 13, 2022 01:44
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Cloacamazing! posted:If it helps, comparing Rhea to Ganondorf isn't really fair. She's more like the king of Hyrule, if the king of Hyrule had enough skeletons in his closet to fill up half the castle because he'd been fighting Ganondorf for so long that he made some very questionable decisions. I dunno I personally think Rhea is much more hardcore than Ganon. Ganon never threatened to rip my heart of my chest.
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Jun 14, 2022 06:00
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Dolash posted:It's definitely a bit of a step back from Three Houses' level of Support Conversations, though, which is a slight disappointment for people tuning in for More Three Houses. It sort of tips their hand about which support pairings are the most important for various characters based on which ones got cut (RIP Annette and Felix). Wow they cut Annette and Felix too? I thought that was one of the like more popular ships for non lords. Like I'd at least admit that Hubert/Bernadetta is a bit of a niche ship, but it still stings they cut it.
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Jun 14, 2022 17:15
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Sydin posted:Can't wait to A support Edelgard and Byleth, and then A support Hubert and Monica so they can go for drinks and commiserate over the fact that they're stuck simping for life. I mean I'm personally angling for FShez and Monica, especially with the fanon interpretation that Shez is actually really into Byleth. Same outcome really just gayer. mastajake posted:They should have let the fixed that one.
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Jun 14, 2022 18:44
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Zore posted:But for real the worst romantic one is Byleth/Rhea and it isn't a contest considering their whole uh everything. Yes but it also lead to this comic and that's just delightful imo https://twitter.com/k_nonomo/status/1175099585506594816
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lunar detritus posted:I feel like you just opened my eyes https://twitter.com/oratoza/status/1525721367420600320
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Blaziken386 posted:the power dynamics are what make it extremely good Who doesn't want their girlfriend to be a literal empress?
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Yeah that's very much the normal experience. Hard has you much more involved with the mechanics if that's your jam, but the core of at least FEW is finding your guy with the most up arrows and orders them to the right spot, swapping guys to control them manually/making sure you don't just tunnel vision and forget about your base.
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Hellioning posted:Mercedes and Balthus are older than Byleth, all the other students are older. That he has a new appearance at all always sucks (imo) just cause I prefer his original look. Like his original look to me is basically Elvis Presley if Elvis beat the poo poo out of people instead of eating at Arby's.
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Deltasquid posted:His three hopes look resembles a solid snake audition so I dig it the headband does do a lot to help. Vast improvement over his timeskip look for sure.
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Clawtopsy posted:It makes sense for the Faerghus faction at least. They’re duty/honor/loyalty fixated and many are friends from birth. What's important is if I can rectify the mistake that Lysithea is apparently in the wrong house again? She's clearly a Black Eagle.
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Blaziken386 posted:found a video of the various unique quotes in new Fire Emblem and Literally me. I love her so much.
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Deltasquid posted:Also the conceit of this game and the playable characters are kind of a hilarious juxtaposition. Cutting through literal hundreds of mooks makes sense as Shez or Byleth or Catherine or Dimitri, but it kind of falls apart when you think a little bit about how or why Manuela is a whirlwind of death with her fists if you class her that way If they were going to limit playable characters, making it just people with crests would've been one way to do it AND make it make sense in the narrative. I don't think it would've been a good choice, but it certainly is one. 
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Jun 16, 2022 21:51
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Just having a non mission way to get support is super nice. Granted I think they got rid of skill sharing in general, but if they didn't you will be VERY thankful you don't need to do hundreds of missions with whoever has the astra equivalent to share to your entire army. 
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Twelve by Pies posted:I thought someone earlier said there is skill sharing, unless you mean like passive battle skills and not active moves. Yeah I mean passives. They changed a lot of the smaller systems up a lot. FEW your build came almost entirely from passives.
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Jun 17, 2022 06:44
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Black Eagles are theatre kids, it's where all the personalities go. Blue Lions are a sports club, but some kind of fancy sport like lacross. Golden Deer is obviously band camp.
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Jun 17, 2022 20:35
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Chinook posted:I heard Three Hopes is supposed to be pretty okay and my favorite musou games are probably DW3:XL, Hyrule Warriors and PW3, so I suppose I should check it out. You can rename Byleth as you like, but if you have the save data, Three Hopes will read it in. If you liked Three Houses story/characters this will be a delight, given that Koei Tecmo did a ton of work on Three Houses as is. This isn't another team handling them, it's very much the same people just getting to tell a different story in the same setting.
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Jun 21, 2022 22:23
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What's important when it comes to Holst is what his warrior special line is. If he doesn't have "I think that enemy got the point" among his lines I will be incredibly disappointed.
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I ordered a physical copy cause I just like doing that for console games so I am just furiously following the tracker.
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Has there been any more info on how the weapon system will work? Namely will topsy turvy return? Because having that and the freeform class system, suddenly Eagles glut of mages turns into a major strength.
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I think the biggest thing you miss out on is knowing who the characters are and why they do some actions. They really don't do much work introducing you to the cast of each route and getting you to care for them, it's the main thing it expects you to just already know and be like "yay my friends are back".
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Jun 24, 2022 06:05
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Folt The Bolt posted:Holst is great! His unique action is to boost his own attack speed and add lightning to his attacks so of course I'm going to make him a mainstay of my army. But is one of his lines "I think that enemy got...the point"?
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Are there any datamines on growths? Because if they were pure rng that's not...great.
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Zore posted:Considering you can completely reset a unit's level to redo their growths its got to be some kind of RNG. Which is bizarre as hell considering how the original handled it was basically perfect. Yeah that's a major step back.
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Playing on hard is quite the difference from the demo and my FEW endgame save. It's quite a pain to get S ranks, they are insanely tight! Like only take 40% damage and do it in 7 minutes, while I remember FEW S ranks more in the region of 15 mins and 80% so quite the change. As well speaking of difficulty clearing the crowds, how combos work has absolutely changed. FEW had a pretty standard combo layout of launcher, aoe, guard opener, guard breaker, biggest most powerful but slow move that hits the whole screen. I can't quite figure out what each combo is good for, and it almost feels like it varies by class now. I certainly have no idea how to easily rack up the kills, especially as one hit trash kills are out. (well maybe til I upgrade weapons.)
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I wonder if playing to the inspiration bonus is a mistake, at least on hard, it feels like my units are pretty drastically underleveled. Really feels like I should be grinding exp since I'm maybe level 10ish and the enemy is in the 30s.
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DC Murderverse posted:Another fun dichotomy between Three Houses and Three Hopes: recruiting. In Three Houses you recruit people because you’re such a cool and good teacher who everyone loves and in Three Hopes they’re basically just prisoners of war. When I recruited Bernadetta over to the Lions she was like “uh what the gently caress have I done why am I here am I gonna have to fight my old friends now” That might just be a Lion's thing, when I recruited Hapi and Constance on Eagles, they were very happy that they joined my side.
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Zore posted:Everyone after Hapi/Constance on the Eagles is mostly a POW too. Though there are some hilarious exceptions like Ignatz who joins up because Hubert is super impressed with an ambush he pulls off on you. I see Shez learned their personal skills from Mother Base.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Why do you think Balthus has that bandana? Infinite Punches.
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Yeah the hard rewards kind of just seem like they are there so when you play on hard you get something from it. As someone doing so, it absolutely is hard, your units can get shredded if you're not careful, a chapter 5 fight in particular in SB knocked out two of my characters. I'm not sure if it's 'worth' it over normal, normal feels too easy but this is quite the challenge from normal. 
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This game is a really great collection of improvement from FEW and then some just really baffling changes. Tying passives to playing a class is such a better way than tying them to supports. You'll still probably want to master way more than your default line, but it feels much less onerous than having to strap Lobsterman to your back the entire game. Hell you even have a way to do it outside of combat! It's great. It's also strange but wonderful playing a musou where I give a poo poo about the story with it being much more than an excuse for mashing your action figures together. In all honestly this could be a Fire Emblem game if you swapped out the combat styles. The bad is kind of annoying though. I hate the RNG level ups. This doesn't even really help for class freedom, since topsy turvy was a thing in FEW and was a great way to differentiate units of the same class. (Though the new weapon system could make it much harder to obtain.) I also don't know why they stop mechanical supports (ie supports with no conversations) at c. If you're already not making a convo, make it go to A for mechanical benefit at least. At the very least everyone in the same house should go to A 
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Notty posted:Like on the one hand, I get it, because the supports in Three Hopes tend to be longer and more involved than the ones in Houses, but on the other, Ashe literally won’t talk to anyone in the Black Eagles other than Shez and so it’s like why even bother making him recruitable lol I mean when I say 'mechanical support' I just mean they get an A rank support with no conversations at all. There are plenty of supports like that in game, they just tend to end at C rank. But yeah that is also a strange aspect of recruiting. But half the recruits feel like you just Fulton'd them and the other half actually want to join you and it's 50/50 on how they'll feel about it. And you can only tell after the battle.
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Get the sewer kids at least. They are all happy to be here and while not as fleshed out as a main house character, have a decent amount of supports.
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