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Naming 300 units seems silly but not too hard a problem, just give inconsequential names to grunts that only show up when you click on them. Starcraft units had ranks that you could find if you cared to. The tier where up to 300 campaign NPCs get named, harder to imagine!
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probably less than ideal for an rts game that twitch korea is shutting down february next year, just as the game is picking up (because the government axed net neutrality and drove up isp fees) https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1732658717076647941
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What the gently caress, S.Korea
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I forget what you call it, "protectionism"? I think they are only charging the fees to non-S.K. companies. You can still watch plenty of streamers on AfreecaTV Even before this I didn't think any RTS would ever get to be even half as popular as Brood War in SK. Starcraft 2 has been practically dead there for years. Sucks
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Has it been said if the game will come out for Mac as well?
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I dropped 60 on the kickstarter because IM AN IDIOT
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3 DONG HORSE posted:I dropped 60 on the kickstarter because IM AN IDIOT me 2 ;(
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starving for that starcraft-like RTS gameplay in this modern era, it sure is mighty tempting. They announced showmatches at Dreamhack Atlanta this Sunday and it's got me kinda excited. I haven't watched SC2 since like 2012 but that was like the pinnacle of watching esports to me followed by CSGO in the following era.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF_wsz6vMJw Just watched the first game, game play looks good. e: youtube video is better. The observer interface is definitely still being worked on, no supply being shown, and the camera showing the players is often covering up the game play. Fozzy The Bear fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Dec 17, 2023 |
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Fozzy The Bear posted:The observer interface is definitely still being worked on, no supply being shown, and the camera showing the players is often covering up the game play. Big early StarCraft vibes with that obs interface
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I liked what I saw. I'm happy I didn't see any dropship micro or busywork macro mechanics. It also seems like there won't be any caster units (which I consider a positive). Instead there's just global powers. The warcraft 3 stuff like creep camps and trees (that aren't a resource, just a removable terrain feature) feel like good RTS features to lift. On the observer end, I think the creep camps will really help the early game by not having to endlessly watch reapers, zerglings, and adepts/oracles run around doing the same song and dance every game.
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EGC Stormgate Open, sounds pretty cool. I had to google EGC, seems they are a site that mostly covers Age of Empires games. Anyone familiar with EGC from that? They have their own writeup on the event.quote:The early rounds will take place on February 10-11. Tournament before public beta, could be a lot of players that only know how to cheese 
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Cautiously excited for this since there's a lot of SC2 people with various knowledge base and solid plans for co-op. Like some have already said, the co-op was my favorite part of SC2
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A few days late but https://stormgatehub.com/stormgate-campaign-length-format-price-revealed/ 10 dollars for 3 missions in each pack
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So it looks like 18 missions for 60$ and 9 for 30$? To compare them to the products they're selling themselves as inspired by. For 60$: Starcraft - 30 missions Reign of Chaos - 38 missions Wings of Liberty - 29 missions Heart of The Swarm - 20 missions Legacy of the Void - 25 missions For 30$: Brood War - 26 missions Frozen Throne - 23 missions + the orc campaign That is uh.... not a very favorable comparison.
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I suppose the maps might be bigger in a way that compensates for the lower map count ala fire emblem 4 compared to the rest of the series. The big buzzkill for me here is that I liked a lot of the out of mission progression in Wings, and if the campaigns are a measly three missions long, that's pretty much out the window.
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Not the worst thing considering that they've confirmed achievements and unlocks will be a thing (also the campaigns are going to be co-op-able) so there's some potential replayability for value add. There's also future plans to only require one player in a group to own the campaign for co-op. However...FoolyCharged posted:The big buzzkill for me here is that I liked a lot of the out of mission progression in Wings, and if the campaigns are a measly three missions long, that's pretty much out the window. I think that's a really valid concern. One of things I really enjoyed about the Heart of the Swarm campaign was customizing the zerg army. I don't see a complex system like that existing with how they've decided to break things up into chapters and such.
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I'm only going to be playing 1v1 and Co-op, so I don't care about campaign other than to draw people into the game to grow the multiplayer base. When I play single player games, I want to go through the game and complete it. It looks like Frost Giant is going to be releasing 3 mission packs every month or two. For the people who only play campaign, they are going to have to leave the game installed and go back to it every few months when new content is released. Its like when a TV show has a 2 year break in between seasons. I lose interest, forget what was happening in the story, and I am less likely to watch.
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Fozzy The Bear posted:I'm only going to be playing 1v1 and Co-op, so I don't care about campaign other than to draw people into the game to grow the multiplayer base. I'm not sure those timelines are similar
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I enjoyed SC2 co-op because they were like bite sized coop missions with a level up system. Mission variety was pretty repetitive but it was fun. It's kinda hazy not but I wasn't fond of Red Alert 3's cooperative designed campaign missions. I don't remember much of it anymore though, but just that I wasn't a big fan of it.
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Unsurprisingly for the first day of beta access, it's unstable right now. Tried coop and one player got disconnected within seconds. After about 10 minutes it gave me a pop up saying the match had been terminated, but it let us keep playing for another 10 minutes before abruptly stopping. There doesn't seem to be a way to revive heroes right now so be sure you don't lose them. Don't bet on leveling them either, when I got disconnected my guy was only like 1/5 of the way to level 2 and we'd destroyed 3/5 enemy bases. I really hated how often a talking head would pop up to tell you what to do or say something "funny" in sc2 and for some reason it's even worse here. I really hope they listen when I tell them to use non-vocal cues to notify players an objective has spawned or an attack wave is coming or whatever, or at least stop trying to be funny.
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sirtommygunn posted:Unsurprisingly for the first day of beta access, it's unstable right now. Tried coop and one player got disconnected within seconds. After about 10 minutes it gave me a pop up saying the match had been terminated, but it let us keep playing for another 10 minutes before abruptly stopping. I look forward to replicating this when I play after work.
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I keep pressing Starcraft Terran hotkeys by instinct but I am loving this grid hotkey system for structures, units, and upgrades.sirtommygunn posted:Unsurprisingly for the first day of beta access, it's unstable right now. Tried coop and one player got disconnected within seconds. After about 10 minutes it gave me a pop up saying the match had been terminated, but it let us keep playing for another 10 minutes before abruptly stopping. Seems stable on my end but I've only been playing against AIs so far. quote:There doesn't seem to be a way to revive heroes right now so be sure you don't lose them. Don't bet on leveling them either, when I got disconnected my guy was only like 1/5 of the way to level 2 and we'd destroyed 3/5 enemy bases. I really hated how often a talking head would pop up to tell you what to do or say something "funny" in sc2 and for some reason it's even worse here. I really hope they listen when I tell them to use non-vocal cues to notify players an objective has spawned or an attack wave is coming or whatever, or at least stop trying to be funny. Where are you encountering this?
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Oh okay. I don't think I'll try that until Steamfest. Seems annoying though..
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I played another match and the issues I had with the hero unit seem to have been fixed, or maybe I just had a particularly hosed up first match. Looking at the meta levels for the characters it seems that anything not attached to the hero itself isn't being locked properly. Units and tech you're supposed to get as a reward are available from the start.
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The scourge unit is just a blue bat that has no animation in mine lol
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"What if SC2 co-op was its own game" is a pretty solid concept, not gonna lie. Gave some co-op a shot and it was fun. Likely will never do 1v1.
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3 DONG HORSE posted:The scourge unit is just a blue bat that has no animation in mine lol The vanguard's scout ability just sends a dog that flies across the sky with no animations and a radar strapped to it's back lol
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Beta is open for Nextfest! Jump on the train so all of our high expectations can fall short!
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Vanguard is insanely tightly designed. All of the elements you could ever want for a simple A-Move composition lives in the bio portion: chaff, bruiser, DPS, healer. But at the same time, much of that can be countered by mech units thanks to their mobility and splash and abilities, encouraging you to tech up and build more variety. I don't know how to feel about the lack of simple weapon/armor upgrades, though. On one hand, that simplifies things immensely. On the other hand, I feel like early units lose value as bigger and stronger things hit the field.
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I feel like the tech tree is too simple for the Vanguard and I'm still wrapping my head around how the Zorg play.
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I love the global build buttons. Not having to select a builder unit or building first is great. C&C had the global build menu but for some reason this feels particularly novel? Especially, with how builder units will return to work after construction completes. I played a little co-op, I wish the "commanders" didn't need to level up for the beta (unless progress carries over?). Normal feels somewhat challenging while learning.. Positioning and good engagements seem to matter more.
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C&C's global building (or at least the old C&Cs) involved deploying buildings once their investment cost was paid, so they just popped up. This feels more novel because it actually grabs a worker unit to do the job. I believe progress carries over, I'm reasonably certain that I recall that question being answered during the Kickstarter campaign.
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I won my first ladder game, it was fun and the game looks good so far, but I’m not really a competitive person so I will probably not play the game again until there are campaigns.
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