funkymonks posted:

I love to bash these games as much as anyone but the character movement and combat animations are substantially improved from Fallout 4. Enemy reactions to being shot are much better and everything looks less floaty. Agreed that facial animations aren't great.

isndl posted:

That number of planets is mostly filler, but at the same time it'll be extremely popular with the settlement building crowd who get to have giant sandboxes to gently caress around with. I expect there's going to be "coolest planets to build a vacation home" type lists going pretty much immediately after launch. Once you factor in modding it's a massive boon there as well because it gives a ton of space to work in with minimal risk of conflicts. Not everyone cares about that sort of thing as can be evidenced by the complaints people have about Fallout settlements, but there are a substantial number of people who put hundreds of hours into their little scrap metal outposts too.

With any luck the random encounter system is easy to add things to so we can add more variety over time. In retrospect I don't know if I've ever seen anyone add to the FO4 random encounter lists which this is probably based on though.

Cavauro posted:

it was really boring and unsatisfying to build and have bases in FO4 and it will be the same way in Starfield but i hope they have a few cool things you can do when you go back. like settle a dispute within the colony that has created factions or something like that. maybe some mods will have that sort of stuff. I like the games

isndl posted:

Yeah that was all vanilla as I recall, though I remember mods to scale the numbers way up so it was dozens of NPCs instead of a few. Maybe there's stuff that I didn't notice because of how seamless it was in which case kudos to the modders.

Azhais posted:

They only generate junk if you have less than like 500 units of junk in the settlement, and the machines only run when you're in the settlement. They're basically completely worthless for acquiring crafting materials other than the "make purified water sell purified water buy material deliveries" loop

I just want bases that are self sufficient. Not the "I build 8600 points of defenses and 3 gunners will destroy half the settlement unless you, the only competent person on the planet, show up to babysit them" bases from fo4

I said come in! posted:

The planets are also different biomes and landscapes too for each player is how I understood it?

Megazver posted:

this, unironically

Jack Trades posted:

Jack Trades posted:

At least some Obsidian games had some things they excelled at. A couple of them had pretty good writing.

There isn't a single Bethesda developed game that excels at anything, besides maybe there being a lot of it, and even then Ubisoft has been filling that niche since for ever.

Anno posted:

Obsidian and BGS both make excellent games, idk why their needs to be any comparison. They're very different styles of game.

No one crafts worlds like BGS so even if the writing is so-so and the gameplay kinda whatever people play them forever because a lot of people like being immersed in another world.

Mylan posted:

People like to complain about haters, but its possible to be too positive about something too. Getting mad at people who dislike a thing you like can be equally obnoxious. Some people can't distinguish between legitimate criticism and trolling.

Popete posted:

Why did you play a bunch of Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 4 if you didn't like them?

For me it's the world build and the dynamic nature of all the systems and yes that includes a healthy amount of jank when you do something unexpected. You can have a quest to go kill some ghouls in an abandon super market and along the way come across 5 different side quests or places to explore and it's easy to just get sucked into exploring detailed worlds and finding stuff to loot.

Base building in FO4 wasn't great but I think they are iterating on it better in Starfield so I'm interested in building bases on scenic planets/moons.

Combat is satisfying to create broken/fun builds like stealth archer, battle mage or power armoured mega tank. One shotting a goon from across the map with VATS is fun, Fus Ro Da'ing a wolf off a cliff is fun.

Being able to loot everything or kill random NPCs in the world makes the world feel more permanent and changeable.

marktheando posted:

Most of my complaints about post-New Vegas bethesda games are that they aren't enough like New Vegas, I wish Bethesda would learn a few lessons from what Obsidian did right with their formula. Especially with factions and multiple ways to do quests.

Too much of Fallout 4 was a move away from that. So many missions are just go to a location and clear it of enemies. And the voiced protagonist and the personal nature of the main quest made it hard to play as a variety of different character types.

But I really enjoyed the settlement building and survival mode stuff though (with a mod to remove the stupid save restrictions)

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

pretending to act surprised when spaceships ride like horses but without gravity and a locked z-rotation range

(if it works, it works, see also: power armor)

moon demon posted:

How is FO76 these days anyway? I never really understood the "point", like once I build my base what then?

Tenebrais posted:

I remember Oblivion had a dialog at the end of the intro dungeon that let you go back and change any of the character creation options you'd chosen. So all you had to do was drop a save at the end of that dungeon and go back to it if you wanted to start a new character without going through the whole opening plot again.

Crazy that they didn't keep doing that.

Aphex- posted:

Lol this is really reaching. Do you get mad at other games that don't include features they never said they'd include?

What about Outer Worlds? Did you have the same complaint with that game?

Orcs and Ostriches posted:

Even Fallout 4 had a decent number of slots. Not much less than Skyrim.

Clothes, chest, L arm, R arm, L leg, R leg, head. Had some decent room to play around there.

I really liked the whole customization system in F4 as well.