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This immediate layoff was the last straw my friends I wish I could succeed at normal office jobs, but unfortunately my neurodivergent mind can't go 1-2 years without losing motivation on boring work. That automatically and unfairly lowers my performance measurements, which inevitably leads to quitting or a layoff. It's not a realistic longterm option for me and I can't keep living in a fantasy land of stable raises and promotions Blue collar jobs? Even worse, I sucked at all the labor and was uncomfortable doing them for so long at such little pay. Not a great fit I'm only super productive when making creative and interesting speculative pieces, fueled by transitory moods and emotions, stretched over months and months of free time inbetween office jobs I wish there was an easier option but here we are Now, does any fellow creative goon have advice on living as an Artist?
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I gape my rear end for perverts at the bus stop
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Jun 24, 2022 13:05
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There's serious money to be made at the bus stop
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Jun 24, 2022 13:06
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Icochet posted:I gape my rear end for perverts at the bus stop Performance art is so satisfying to study, you probably know master level grip-it-and-rip-it techniques
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Jun 24, 2022 13:09
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Analytic Engine posted:Performance art is so satisfying to study, you probably know master level grip-it-and-rip-it techniques I'm doing alright. I don't have formal credentials but the patrons actually appreciate the amateurish touch. They've seen what classically educated gapers can do and want to see wild raw buttcraft
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Jun 24, 2022 13:15
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In a few months I'm going to quit my job and move in my folks who are moving to the middle of no where. I've spent 6 years of my life working in the mail/imaging department of the biggest insurance company in Canada. At their head office in a city that at one point a year or so ago had the highest housing/rental cost increase in the world. I started at 30k I make 33k now. I've had poo poo tons of interviews for higher paying better jobs in different departments and everytime I get told I interviewed well they just went with someone with more experience. I've learned 5-6 different roles within my department while I've been here. I'm sick of this poo poo. So I'm thinking about the bus stop gig yeah.
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Jun 24, 2022 13:20
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Icochet posted:I'm doing alright. I don't have formal credentials but the patrons actually appreciate the amateurish touch. They've seen what classically educated gapers can do and want to see wild raw buttcraft You're an outsider artist looking in and they respect the authenticity of your butthole
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Jun 24, 2022 13:21
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Ah, a fellow creative
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Jun 24, 2022 14:18
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It sounds like I'm as good of an artist as you are an employee OP. So I'm forced to keep working... 
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Jun 24, 2022 14:23
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i produce art house amateur video of degenerates willing to show their entire colon at public transport stops
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Jun 24, 2022 14:25
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My art consists of building fake bus stops to trick buses into stopping and instead of real passengers going in, a cadre of nude people walk in through the front door then out the back, all while gaping their asses.
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Jun 24, 2022 14:30
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:It sounds like I'm as good of an artist as you are an employee OP. So I'm forced to keep working... Yeah, same. Except for that being productive part. I suck at that no matter what.
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Jun 24, 2022 14:32
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I think you will find that my normal dead end 9-5 job is just elaborate performance art op.
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Jun 24, 2022 14:35
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ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD posted:i produce art house amateur video of degenerates willing to show their entire colon at public transport stops Personal use only rear end in a top hat
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Jun 24, 2022 14:37
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Mooey Cow posted:My art consists of building fake bus stops to trick buses into stopping and instead of real passengers going in, a cadre of nude people walk in through the front door then out the back, all while gaping their asses. It's impressive work, but you lifted the idea from obscure Japanese videos
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Jun 24, 2022 14:41
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yeah i feel you op. the only reason i keep working is because i need money to take care of my family, but also to fund my transitory moods and emotions which manifest themselves as a new hobby every few months. if money were out of the question i'd spend every day creating new things too instead of what i do now (which i guess is also creating new things since i design robots but it's not the same)
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Jun 24, 2022 14:45
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yes, a sandwich artist
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Jun 24, 2022 14:46
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ive been trying to be an artist but i havent sold anything so i just create a lot, i have so much artwork that no one not even i want sitting around my house help me please
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Jun 24, 2022 14:47
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tie your art to the dogs when you walk them, for exposure
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Jun 24, 2022 14:48
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Sid Vicious posted:ive been trying to be an artist but i havent sold anything so i just create a lot, i have so much artwork that no one not even i want sitting around my house help me please Can I have one?
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Sid Vicious posted:ive been trying to be an artist but i havent sold anything so i just create a lot, i have so much artwork that no one not even i want sitting around my house help me please create a implausibly large kite out of them and use the kite to blot out the sun for the entire city ogf guelph (again, for exposure)
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Yeah pretty much OP. In my 1.5 years of unemployment I went from this to this   and stuff like this:        It's tough to "make it" as a visual artist, especially if you are a new artist, because nearly any professional art opportunity is going to expect to see both a history of your work developing and to see that you plan to stick with it for a long time, like a gallery show will never take a new artist's work unless they envision a future of work that will be valuable and will therefore make this current work more valuable. Probably 90% of all the money I have made on art has either been from the SA Mart thread I posted, or from offering to draw things for free for people on the forums and then they offer to pay. It really depends on what you draw though. Probably the easiest art skill to make money on is just drawing like, just patterns, and silhouettes of simple objects like flowers, for whatever reason that stuff is very easy to market and print on stickers or coffee mugs or whatever. If you do character or portrait art you'll need to find people to do commissions and if you do landscapes good luck unless you can get a job as an environmental concept artist or something. If you do abstract stuff it's really only going to happen if you manage to go viral. That being said I am a cishet white man which (understandably) excludes me from lots of shows and grants in the art space, and the things I am eligible for there is a much larger pool of competition for. If you are not, then there are a lot of opportunities with less competition you would be eligible for. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jun 24, 2022 |
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Mooey Cow posted:My art consists of building fake bus stops to trick buses into stopping and instead of real passengers going in, a cadre of nude people walk in through the front door then out the back, all while gaping their asses. Everyone else just calls this a selfie. No need to add fancy artist language.
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The only way I can make it as a woman in the art world is if I paint with my menstrual blood and to be honest, my periods ain't that regular. Maybe I can paint with other womens' menstrual blood???
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Only if you finger paint.
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actually it's crazy that you mention 1-2 years op because i have the same poo poo happen to me. i just lose interest on the work in that time frame and then i'm like "ugh, i wish i could just work on the things i like which is *current ongoing hobby/project*". i've been at my current job for closing in on 2 years and it's been ~ 6 months that i've been strongly considering looking for a new job but tbh the same poo poo is probably going to happen
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Only if you finger paint. 
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Das Boo posted:The only way I can make it as a woman in the art world is if I paint with my menstrual blood and to be honest, my periods ain't that regular. Just lie and use regular blood. How are the perverts gonna know?
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My job is dropping viral messages using alt accounts into various "counter culture" forums across the Web. It might be something as simple as: "I gape my rear end for perverts at the bus stop" Just as an example. We sort of see what resonates and jumps platforms and aggregate the messages that do and then sell that to marketers as a sort of package of trending phrases. These reports inevitably inform media groups and podcasts and other Web based and traditional media and it creates a cool feedback loop that gives me little satisfaction but quite a bit of money.
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McGavin posted:Just lie and use regular blood. How are the perverts gonna know? They're the top experts in the world on that
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Hey, OP, I’m gonna give you a couple of terms to make it seem like you’re an established artist: chiaroscuro and contrapposto. All you have to do is insert either of these two art terms into any conversation and you’re in!
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You Are A Elf posted:Hey, OP, I’m gonna give you a couple of terms to make it seem like you’re an established artist: chiaroscuro and contrapposto. All you have to do is insert either of these two art terms into any conversation and you’re in! And don't forget pentimento, especially if each canvas you start with is just goatse
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The Bramble posted:And don't forget pentimento, especially if each canvas you start with is just goatse Tubgirl, but you paint it into a magnificent fountain.
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You Are A Elf posted:Hey, OP, I’m gonna give you a couple of terms to make it seem like you’re an established artist: chiaroscuro and contrapposto. All you have to do is insert either of these two art terms into any conversation and you’re in! Enchiladas filled with chiaroscuro are an excellent choice for the contrapposto course.
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Stippling is a thing.
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Analytic Engine posted:Now, does any fellow creative goon have advice on living as an Artist? Figure out a way to monetize it you idiot. It's not that hard if you make "being really good at something people think is cool" your number one priority.
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Handen posted:Figure out a way to monetize it you idiot. It's not that hard if you make "being really good at something people think is cool" your number one priority. yup. agreed. being an artist is actually well known for being not that hard to monetize
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ScRoTo TuRbOtUrD posted:i produce art house amateur video of degenerates willing to show their entire colon at public transport stops Bravo. Everyone always talks about the Goatse guy, but nobody asks about the person taking the pictures.
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Spazzle posted:Bravo. Everyone always talks about the Goatse guy, but nobody asks about the person taking the pictures. My parents were excellent framers, photograph developers, collection archivists, and art exhibit planners. Creating original pieces was a fun challenge for their college art degrees, but meta-art work is how you pay the bills
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OP do you have experience in some field of "art" (professional or otherwise) to lean into, or are you just speculating about cold turkey transitioning to art with no background?
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