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Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

i have an xps 15.

annoying with only one usb-c port, but i guess they might've fixed that in the later models

keyboard sucks, rest is ok. touchpad is one of the better ones? don't know why people whine over the touchpad, i'm betting it's windows and sucky drivers. works wonders with libinput in linux.

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Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

hey, since this thread exists now, we might just well get something useful out of it!

what do you people use on new laptops that doesn't have 3.5 mm jack outputs? when i get my next laptop i'll need to have a proper headphone output with mic support and the works. is there a dongle i can get? some usb-c thingamajiggy?

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

maybe i have to invest in a proper small dac

weren't there a brand posted here recently that actually had linux support with firmwares and such?

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

this is now the dac thread

i'm having trouble finding small dacs that has microphone input support

i think this is one https://www.qudelix.com/blogs/5k-dac-amp

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

hm this one looks like it fits the bill

https://www.schiit-europe.com/product/fulla-4-dac-amp-for-gaming-and-everything-else/

and lol, the apple usb-c to 3.5 mm jack is also a capable dac, i might just buy that one instead. it should work in linux

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

lol

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

i ordered the apple cord

guess i'll do a trip report later, maybe i need schiit in my life

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

agreeing with shaggar

except keyboards. there is no good laptop keyboards anymore, they dont exist. you'd have to go back to the time when there still were an ibm logo on lenovos to find a good laptop keyboard, and dell had good ones at the same time period too

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

Silver Alicorn posted:

doesn’t asus have an rog laptop with mechanical keys or some shjt

you can't buy laptops that are designed in taiwan, they are always either gamer trash or cheap trash

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

akadajet posted:

I'd rather be in taiwan than "the republic of gamers" wherever that is

i regret to inform you that "the republic of gamers" is taiwan

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

mediaphage posted:

they used the same keyboards after the transition too. when they changed it there was a massive outcry because it was soooo bad

and laptop keyboards were never the same again

no wonder there's such a cult following around the x220

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

ironically, a lot of surface machines have good linux support

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

it's kinda absurd, but microsoft makes good hardware

they should quit the software business and go all in on hardware

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

or, ironically, install linux

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

Bloody posted:

I'm all horned up for the new Lenovo ThinkPad Z series

got a link to share or something, i've haven't followed it properly

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

the apple usb-c to jack dongle worked perfectly in linux, a++++ would buy again

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

ok getting webcam working on the dell xps 9320 is hell as it stands now.

let me paste from a forum post from arch

sachkris posted:

Hello!

Thanks for the hints @fstab.

After some effort, I managed to get the camera barely working. The steps I followed was :

1) Compiled (out-of-tree) the Intel Vision Sensing Controller (ivsc) kernel modules from https://github.com/intel/ivsc-driver
2) Installed ivsc firmware binaries available at https://github.com/intel/ivsc-firmware
3) Compiled (out-of-tree) the IPU6 drivers from https://github.com/intel/ipu6-drivers
4) Installed ipu6ep firmware from https://github.com/intel/ipu6-camera-bins
5) Compiled and installed the userspace library at https://github.com/intel/ipu6-camera-hal
6) Compiled the gstreamer plugin icamerasrc from https://github.com/intel/icamerasrc/tree/icamerasrc_slim_api

The sensor on the device is ov01a10.

After all the steps, I can barely turn the camera on and see the image using `gst-launch-1.0`. Although, `v4l2-ctl` recognizes and lists the device, i have not managed to get other applications (cheese or firefox) to capture images with it.

if you do all those steps, and _then_ pipe that icamerasrc stream to a v4l2loopback device of your own making, _then_ you got a webcam you can actually use.

looks like the driver is a code dump from some proprietary monstrosity, and i'll guess it'll be some time before we have proper upstream code. but hey, at least it's possible.

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

distortion park posted:

i suspect it works out of the box if you don't click the linux box in the online configurator

ironically, the dell-built ubuntu linux distro you get if you choose linux has got that proprietary poo poo already set up, so it actually works

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

ahh, new laptops

i had to set kernel command line acpi_osi="!Windows 2012" to get suspend to work. without it the screen wouldn't turn off, and the wifi would die, requiring a reboot.

what pain we must endure to just get a working machine, especially if it's a new model.

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

why has s2idle / s0ix taken over from s3 sleep state? that just means new laptops never powers down properly when you close the lid anymore

i feel like this has made new laptops worse in terms of power save features than old ones. ok, they last a long time under use, but you can't close the lid and put it in your backpack anymore without turning it off.

why is everything regressing

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

who decides these things

is there one engineer at intel who's at fault for just yanking s3 from some intel spec

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

Tankakern posted:

ahh, new laptops

i had to set kernel command line acpi_osi="!Windows 2012" to get suspend to work. without it the screen wouldn't turn off, and the wifi would die, requiring a reboot.

what pain we must endure to just get a working machine, especially if it's a new model.

Nevermind this, it didn't work.

What _did_ work was this jank workaround: restart NetworkManager after suspend. Seems like it's an age-old trick: https://sorenpoulsen.com/dell-xps-developer-edition-resume-wifi-after-suspend-on-ubuntu-1604

What it actually was, was that those out-of-tree modules enabling webcam are absolute trash, and the solution is adding a script that rmmod's them before suspend, and then modprobe them again after suspend. what the hell are you doing intel

Tankakern fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jul 21, 2022

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

install linux

Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

bluetooth is better in linux than windows

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Tankakern
Jul 25, 2007

im writing this on a xps 13 plus myself, how did that happen

what did you install

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