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Somehow AP has managed to report from Pyongyang, and even interview people, without pathologizing spin that presents the city of >2M (and suggestively, the whole country) as a "stage set" where "automatons" put on "acts" for foreigners. It is specifically the BBC that, again and again, has gone there with a predetermined angle that rejects the people's humanity.
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Gazpacho posted:Somehow AP has managed to report from Pyongyang, and even interview people, without pathologizing spin that presents the city of >2M (and suggestively, the whole country) as a "stage set" where "automatons" put on "acts" for foreigners. It is specifically the BBC that, again and again, has gone there with a predetermined angle that rejects the people's humanity. Lol go suck Kim’s dick, the whole country is a Potemkin village and its citizens are brainwashed slaves, you loving suck, go eat Stalin’s dead rear end.
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Gazpacho posted:Somehow AP has managed to report from Pyongyang, and even interview people, without pathologizing spin that presents the city of >2M (and suggestively, the whole country) as a "stage set" where "automatons" put on "acts" for foreigners. It is specifically the BBC that, again and again, has gone there with a predetermined angle that rejects the people's humanity. And?
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Gazpacho posted:Somehow AP has managed to report from Pyongyang, and even interview people, without pathologizing spin that presents the city of >2M (and suggestively, the whole country) as a "stage set" where "automatons" put on "acts" for foreigners. It is specifically the BBC that, again and again, has gone there with a predetermined angle that rejects the people's humanity. Let me know when people are allowed to leave without getting shot at.
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otto warmbier sounds like a cameo character on Hogan's Heroes
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So the defense is that the defector accounts are being cherry picked, but like... Not that they didn't happen. So you still have children in prison camps because Grampa was reported to have insulted Dear Leader, but it's not that many children, you guys!
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Das Boo posted:So the defense is that the defector accounts are being cherry picked, but like... Not that they didn't happen. So you still have children in prison camps because Grampa was reported to have insulted Dear Leader, but it's not that many children, you guys! You only ever see interviews from defectors who successfully made it out of NK. Why aren't we hearing from the ones who got filled with bullet holes half way across the border, or extradited from China to spend the rest of their lives in labor camps? Checkmate, western media 
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Das Boo posted:So the defense is that the defector accounts are being cherry picked, but like... Not that they didn't happen. So you still have children in prison camps because Grampa was reported to have insulted Dear Leader, but it's not that many children, you guys! well art historian, philosopher and pedophile Michel Foucault noted that with the regimented time and regime of discipline by punishment endemic to human society prisons resemble schools, which resemble workplaces and which all in turn resemble prisons so who can say if the gulags are bad or not
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It was alsi funny when nirth korea got so butt mad about a Seth Rogan movie that they hacked sony
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Nooner posted:It was alsi funny when nirth korea got so butt mad about a Seth Rogan movie that they hacked sony Eh, my brother thought Sausage Party was funny.
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More like Otto coldbier
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The criticism in this thread has given me something to think about. Also "Warmbier" jokes aren't funny. that's all
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One time a north korean ship called mu du bong was confiscated in mexico and eventually released back to north korea
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north korea is a garbage idiot country full of rear end heads with poo poo for brain
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people in north korea dont have ice because they cant remember the recipe (that and they dont have electricity to run a freezer)
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I am North Korea. Not in, am. I am the landmass.
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The last voyage of the pong su was an interesting podcast on North Korea trying to smuggle 100 million dollars of heroin into Australia
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Das Boo posted:So the defense is that the defector accounts are being cherry picked, but like... Not that they didn't happen. So you still have children in prison camps because Grampa was reported to have insulted Dear Leader, but it's not that many children, you guys!
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Nooner posted:member that time the kid stole a poster from north korea cause he was tryna get some pussy and then they caught him trying to steal the poster and beat him braindead in a gulag and then shipped him back like 2 days before he died and were all like "uuuhhh he was like that when we got here" lol There was a longread about the Otto Warmbier case that talked a lot to various diplomats, NK watchers and picked over the evidence. They concluded that Warmbier had stolen the poster, probably thinking there was no way he'd be detained for it. NK decided to make an example of him or use him for political leverage. Them just before he was released, Warmbier attempted suicide leaving himself in a vegative state, and the authorities on both sides with an awkward situation. Which is to not say that NK is a blameless workers paradise, but there is method to their madness.
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What's the deal with those photos showing DPRK guards at the DMZ standing next to South Korean and American military, easily two heads taller than them? Is it true that their puny size is due to generational malnourishment, or do the SK and US military just pick their most robust himbos for DMZ duty, for the photo ops? Or is it a bit of both?
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Mister Speaker posted:What's the deal with those photos showing DPRK guards at the DMZ standing next to South Korean and American military, easily two heads taller than them? Is it true that their puny size is due to generational malnourishment, or do the SK and US military just pick their most robust himbos for DMZ duty, for the photo ops? Or is it a bit of both? It's both. There's definitely height issues due to malnutrition (though those on the DMZ get some of the best food available), but also South Korea deliberately picks the tallest and beefiest soldiers as a psyop
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It seems bizarre to me that malnutrition can seriously do that to people. I imagine the 'generational' part is a big factor. NK has five Olympic gold medals in weightlifting, so I'm sure they're more than familiar with exogenous hormones. I vote they turn the DMZ into a 24/7 bodybuilding pose-down.
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what a passive aggressive bitch also nobody is buying what you're selling
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Mister Speaker posted:It seems bizarre to me that malnutrition can seriously do that to people. I imagine the 'generational' part is a big factor. NK has five Olympic gold medals in weightlifting, so I'm sure they're more than familiar with exogenous hormones. I vote they turn the DMZ into a 24/7 bodybuilding pose-down. I remember reading about defectors having a hard time fitting in in South Korea partially because they can often be picked out on sight. Not only are they shorter but their heads are a little larger in proportion to their bodies since in starvation events, the body favors maintenance of the brain over muscles. Apparently the SK general public carry some huge biases and don't treat defectors particularly well. There was also an extensive account about growing up in the villages and using tree bark to make biscuits to sell on the black market. The tree bark at regular height was so extensively stripped that the lady recruited children to climb the trees and strip the bark out of reach. God, and there was another account about when the initial split happened and people could still receive packages from their Japanese relatives. One person recalled a man who was sent a cake in a box. They would see him open up the box, look at the cake, then close the box again. He died of starvation with the cake still in the box because (the observer thought) not having it there was more frightening than starving to death. The starvation stories stuck with me hard.
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Gazpacho posted:Somehow AP has managed to report from Pyongyang, and even interview people, without pathologizing spin that presents the city of >2M (and suggestively, the whole country) as a "stage set" where "automatons" put on "acts" for foreigners. It is specifically the BBC that, again and again, has gone there with a predetermined angle that rejects the people's humanity.
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Polybius91 posted:You're wasting your time. Westerners hate every country (NK, China, Russia, Cuba, Iran, etc.) that isn't either a western imperial state or one of its colonized client states. That's not coincidence, the west must believe in the supremacy of its civilization because it thinks it deserves to rule the world and use everyone outside its imperial core as expendable slave labor North Korea uses its own population as slave labor, dipshit (and China contracts them out)
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Seth Pecksniff posted:It's both.
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Gazpacho posted:The criticism in this thread has given me something to think about. Hey that's cool, I'm serious And I agree, what happened to the guy was horrific. It's SA so I will tolerate and ignore the jokes but I sure won't make one
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Polybius91 posted:You're wasting your time. Westerners hate every country (NK, China, Russia, Cuba, Iran, etc.) that isn't either a western imperial state or one of its colonized client states. That's not coincidence, the west must believe in the supremacy of its civilization because it thinks it deserves to rule the world and use everyone outside its imperial core as expendable slave labor Feel free to head on over to those places and post about it.
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Das Boo posted:Apparently the SK general public carry some huge biases and don't treat defectors particularly well. This is why there will never be peace between the two countries. The south absolutely hates the north and would sooner kill the defectors than welcome them with open arms.
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Every documentary I’ve watched always has the NK people posing with lots of bottles of pop beer whatever. Why? Is it supposed to be that impressive that “yes I have a whole 12 pack of Korea Koke, there’s no famines?” Like people watching in the west are supposed to be impressed by all bottles?
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Polybius91 posted:You're wasting your time. Westerners hate every country (NK, China, Russia, Cuba, Iran, etc.) that isn't either a western imperial state or one of its colonized client states. That's not coincidence, the west must believe in the supremacy of its civilization because it thinks it deserves to rule the world and use everyone outside its imperial core as expendable slave labor you're really talking about an imaginary enemy here. this is SA. it's a conglomerate of internet elder sceptical assholes, the reasons people aren't impressed by the histories of the countries you mentioned has more to do with comparative information than propaganda.
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Polybius91 posted:You're wasting your time. Westerners hate every country (NK, China, Russia, Cuba, Iran, etc.) that isn't either a western imperial state or one of its colonized client states. That's not coincidence, the west must believe in the supremacy of its civilization because it thinks it deserves to rule the world and use everyone outside its imperial core as expendable slave labor Yawn go wash your Che gavera t shirt it smells.
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