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nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

fullroundaction posted:

I know this isn’t the right thread but I figured you folks would be closer to what I want to do than the keyboard thread. Looking to pickup up a keyboard for 3 purposes:

1. My wife wants to relearn how to play keyboard so we can get play together

2. I want something with pads on it so I can more easily program drum tracks in Logic

3. Some kind of wheel or knob so I can automate effects in the DAW like wah, pitch bends etc

Not looking for anything full sized but don’t want it to be so small it hinders her playing. Bonus points if it actually feels good to play as a keyboard. Not too worried about price because it seems like they’re all relatively inexpensive (compared to guitar poo poo).

TIA

Edit: keep stretching my dudes. It’s the only thing keeping me physically able to play

I think the keyboard thread would be a good place to ask despite your misgivings. Generally though, I think they’d recommend a MIDI controller for your purposes (Akai MPK Pro maybe), and a 61-key Casio for your wife. The Casiotone lineup is pretty good and their Privia line is a solid step up from there.

There are big controllers, but I’d so much rather have sounds built-in at the ready with the option of USB input than being forever tied to it.

nitsuga fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Mar 29, 2024

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800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

fullroundaction posted:

I know this isn’t the right thread but I figured you folks would be closer to what I want to do than the keyboard thread. Looking to pickup up a keyboard for 3 purposes:

1. My wife wants to relearn how to play keyboard so we can get play together

2. I want something with pads on it so I can more easily program drum tracks in Logic

3. Some kind of wheel or knob so I can automate effects in the DAW like wah, pitch bends etc

Not looking for anything full sized but don’t want it to be so small it hinders her playing. Bonus points if it actually feels good to play as a keyboard. Not too worried about price because it seems like they’re all relatively inexpensive (compared to guitar poo poo).

TIA

Edit: keep stretching my dudes. It’s the only thing keeping me physically able to play

If you're just interested in a MIDI controller for plugins/DAW, I like the Arturia stuff and have a keylab 61. It's pretty great, has a lot of assignable pads and faders. Im not much of a keys player but the keybed feels good to me. My only complaint is that the aftertouch doesn't have much of a throw to it and is pretty much just on/off.

If you're looking for something that can play standalone, then that's a whole thing. It really matters what kind of sounds you want and is probably a better question for the synth thread. Beware though, synthesizers are path to madness. Better to just get an SG and know happiness and fulfillment.

Grum
May 7, 2007
Sitting the classical guitar way is a good way to develop back pain, the foot stool stuff is not a good idea. You also can't get a good position on your left leg without something to raise either your leg or the guitar up. I played with an ergoplay for a while and it's good for getting the neck at the right angle but nowadays I just cross my legs like they do in flamenco. You can get similar things for non-classical guitars. Or use a strap but I'm never comfortable with the weight

Grum fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Mar 29, 2024

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
I wanna get one of those guitar tripods that holds it for you lol

pocket pool
Aug 4, 2003

B U T T S

Bleak Gremlin
Interesting take on playing the classical way - I've always played like this with the guitar on my left leg and my foot boosted up. I've tried playing with the guitar on my right leg but it makes my shoulder start to hurt - it feels like I'm cranking it back quite a ways to strum. (My arms are fairly long.)

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

pocket pool posted:

Interesting take on playing the classical way - I've always played like this with the guitar on my left leg and my foot boosted up. I've tried playing with the guitar on my right leg but it makes my shoulder start to hurt - it feels like I'm cranking it back quite a ways to strum. (My arms are fairly long.)

Yeah I played for years in the normal way with no issues but then had this same shoulder pain when I started playing again many years later.

Classical position seems great except I tend to get One Sore Buttcheek after a while.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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I’m looking for a baritone for high gain dumbness under $500, new or used (don’t care). What are your personal favorites?

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
Did I stutter?

Elissimpark posted:

Danelectro Longhorn baritone in black burst

Honestly, just think they look cool in a way the basses don't. Hard to find a demo video that isn't someone going country or surf though.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Anytime you want other guitar what you should actually do is buy a Danelectro instrument

Tad Naff
Jul 8, 2004

I told you you'd be sorry buying an emoticon, but no, you were hung over. Well look at you now. It's not catching on at all!
:backtowork:

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

I’m looking for a baritone for high gain dumbness under $500, new or used (don’t care). What are your personal favorites?

I picked up a 'Paranormal' baritone tele a while ago, I like it. I also like the Gretsch 5620T that I got at around the same time because I'm weird like that. But tbh the baritone I play most is the amateur-grade Epi LP 'studio' that I threw baritone strings on for an experiment, it works fine

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


Ladies and gentlemen, we have solved the issue of tone wood forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uok6B2EufEc

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

family came over for easter festivities and my niece said she wanted to play guitar

so i went and pulled out the chushin gakki jackson out of the pile of neglected beater japanese superstrats, gave it a once over, and started teaching her power chords and the first couple of riffs to iron man. sent her home with the guitar and an old practice amp i had laying around.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Southern Cassowary posted:

the pile of neglected beater japanese superstrats

I feel like there's a Japanese phrase or German word to specifically and accurately describe this very poetic scene.

I've come to realise that Sabbath really is a great way to learn guitar. Easy to learn riffs that sound cool and sound cooler as you build some subtlety with technique.

Southern Cassowary
Jan 3, 2023

Elissimpark posted:

I've come to realise that Sabbath really is a great way to learn guitar. Easy to learn riffs that sound cool and sound cooler as you build some subtlety with technique.

as i was teaching her i had to think about the slide from b to d at the beginning of the iron man riff and consider that it's pretty hard if you've literally never held a guitar before, so i just turned it into playing the two chords individually

most of the lesson was just like working on building the dexterity to get the fingers in power chord shape consistently and not have the fingertips move while also just working on hitting two strings and not having the rest ring out. i left saying just work on going back and forth between the power chord at the 7th fret and the 10th, making sure it sounds consistently, then work on doing it very slowly in time, for about 15 to 30 minutes every day. she made enough improvement and understood enough about how to self-diagnose issues that if she practices i think it'll sound good next week.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Buschmaki posted:

Try getting a cheap like, drum stool for playing as well

Not too cheap! I had one and the seat itself collapsed in days (im not a big guy or anything) and I was left perching on a metal tube directly beneath my butthole. I was able to get a short barstool for a similar price and its been great.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Kazinsal posted:

Ladies and gentlemen, we have solved the issue of tone wood forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uok6B2EufEc

ugh that mahogany has so much sustain, I need that

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Yea Sabbath is wonderful for learning. I remember I was playing some Sabbath on guitar and my friend noticed I wasn't nailing a riff and he said "naw Tony always did it simpler and easier than whatever you think it is" and sure enough it was. The same is true of Keith Richards but then you need to keep a guitar in Nashville tuning handy.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
I like the story of Keith chilling out in a dressing room when Ike Turner burst in demanding he teach him "that 5 string poo poo."

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Kazinsal posted:

Ladies and gentlemen, we have solved the issue of tone wood forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uok6B2EufEc

You know, if he just dialed back the presentation a tiny bit he could probably sell a shitload of these for $100+ each.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (the song) contains the heaviest guitar riff ever recorded. Don't bother trying to change my mind because you won't.

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
slow and heavy and loud as heck

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

i always figure the idea of sustain/tone has more to do with construction and body size than wood type

i would buy that a les paul has more sustain than a strat because the body is bigger and the wood is more dense and it doesn't have a trem thing carved out of it.

i would not buy that a les paul has more sustain than a strat because of an impossibly thin rosewood veneer on its neck

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS posted:

slow and heavy and loud as heck

Yes please

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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landgrabber posted:

i always figure the idea of sustain/tone has more to do with construction and body size than wood type

i would buy that a les paul has more sustain than a strat because the body is bigger and the wood is more dense and it doesn't have a trem thing carved out of it.

i would not buy that a les paul has more sustain than a strat because of an impossibly thin rosewood veneer on its neck

Everything has been quantified*. At most, the impact it makes is at the edge of our ability to measure it. That's how much it matters.

*Imagine I'm wearing a lab coat.

edit: for electric guitars only.

Dang It Bhabhi! fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Mar 30, 2024

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.
Why would an electric guitar need a lab coat?

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Sustain problems go away when you use a big muff. I'm a dummy for not wanting to use one for so long, they rule.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Elissimpark posted:

Why would an electric guitar need a lab coat?

The curves are a bit sexy for a professional environment.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
I got a new concept series soloist(the one in the stand) and I'm pretty chuffed. At this point normally buying guitars is the exciting part and then when they get here it's a little bit novel and then "yep just another good playing guitar" but this one is good because it plays really really well, and Jackson is normally great at making guitars that look cool and play cool but are always missing features that you want. Reverse headstock? Neck through soloist? Neck binding? Stainless Frets? All cool things I want, but good luck finding all that poo poo on one guitar from Jackson, until this one at least. It's excellent, although I haven't had a chance to set it up in C yet.

I've actually done a good bit of buying/selling/trading lately so I'm just gonna post an updated pic of all of them. I do really need to sell one though, the new Jackson was 1800 dollars.


BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Kazinsal posted:

Ladies and gentlemen, we have solved the issue of tone wood forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uok6B2EufEc

Not watched yet but this dude has done some interesting restorations of Soviet era guitars.

Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

I love when someone has a 'type'.



Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

The curves are a bit sexy for a professional environment.

*nerdy female lab assistant takes off her glasses and lets down her hair. She's actually a replica of Tony Iommi's Monkey SG.

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Drunk Driver Dad posted:

I got a new concept series soloist(the one in the stand) and I'm pretty chuffed. At this point normally buying guitars is the exciting part and then when they get here it's a little bit novel and then "yep just another good playing guitar" but this one is good because it plays really really well, and Jackson is normally great at making guitars that look cool and play cool but are always missing features that you want. Reverse headstock? Neck through soloist? Neck binding? Stainless Frets? All cool things I want, but good luck finding all that poo poo on one guitar from Jackson, until this one at least. It's excellent, although I haven't had a chance to set it up in C yet.

I've actually done a good bit of buying/selling/trading lately so I'm just gonna post an updated pic of all of them. I do really need to sell one though, the new Jackson was 1800 dollars.




Green one gonna take an eye out when you turn that corner on the way to the bathroom at 3 AM.

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
Alf!

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I hooked up and played around with the Les Paul a bit and that is a good sounding guitar.

Don't tell my wife.

field balm
Feb 5, 2012

Never really been interested in wahs before but I've been really into the early stooges/ron asheton sound lately, any specific wah for that sound? I guess it's like synth filters where there's all different types but I've no idea. It'd be cool if I could get it mini too.

field balm fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Mar 31, 2024

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

Drunk Driver Dad posted:

I got a new concept series soloist(the one in the stand) and I'm pretty chuffed. At this point normally buying guitars is the exciting part and then when they get here it's a little bit novel and then "yep just another good playing guitar" but this one is good because it plays really really well, and Jackson is normally great at making guitars that look cool and play cool but are always missing features that you want. Reverse headstock? Neck through soloist? Neck binding? Stainless Frets? All cool things I want, but good luck finding all that poo poo on one guitar from Jackson, until this one at least. It's excellent, although I haven't had a chance to set it up in C yet.

I've actually done a good bit of buying/selling/trading lately so I'm just gonna post an updated pic of all of them. I do really need to sell one though, the new Jackson was 1800 dollars.




This is excellent. Gonna hassle you when I get around to buying a RR V.

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

After a few months now of using it, I'm underwhelmed by solid state amps. Not time to move to tubes, but will eventually. It's definitely been a learning experience and I really wish I'd have picked better in the first place. :argh:

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Maybe you just need a Jazz Chorus, the big boss of solid state amps

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011


The JC-120 is definitely pretty close to the pinnacle of solid state amps. Super high end modelers edge it out for versatility but if you need the most crispy, ringing clean tone of all time? JC-120.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

field balm posted:

Never really been interested in wahs before but I've been really into the early stooges/ron asheton sound lately, any specific wah for that sound? I guess it's like synth filters where there's all different types but I've no idea. It'd be cool if I could get it mini too.

Ron used the black Vox V847 wahs and still had one during the reunion tour. Nothing particularly rare - knowing what they were like in the early days he probably just grabbed the cheapest one he could find. Great sound though.

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duodenum
Sep 18, 2005

PathAsc posted:

Picking up a nice used Peavey 212

PathAsc posted:

After a few months now of using it, I'm underwhelmed by solid state amps.

Should have bought a Boss Katana.

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