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BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Snowy posted:

Hello new thread, I look forward to lurking and occasionally talking about which guitars look cool and how much fun it is to play nothing but power chords with too much distortion

What's this power chords but not palm muted open e string?

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BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Any amp, modeller, tube or solid state, is, at it's basic, taking in some input and modifying it somehow. The basic idea is that you want the modification to include greater volume. The input signal has some sort of spectral profile or whatever, and what the amp does is that it (more or less) amplifies certain frequencies more than others. And on top of that it might clip or distort or compress, and I guess whatever other effects. And based on the properties of the amp, you get a new spectral profile.
My view is that the modellers are fully capable, at the very least in theory, of simulating the exact same modifications the tubes are doing, it's just a matter of finding out the right parameters.
I guess there might be a tiny bit more latency because you need to digitise the signal, but I don't really think it's worse than using wireless systems (or being a bit drunk).

Also trip report: my THR10IIW is loving brilliant because it's battery powered, allowing me to take it, a guitar and my headphones out in the garden and jam, including backtracks. It's cool.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The main case against modellers for me of the complexity. You have basically infinite options, and then you get to the cab sim. Whereas on my Orange bass amp, i have volume, bass, middle, treble, blend and distortion, all with helpful pictograms. I'm never gonna get the perfect tone from it, but I can get something good pretty quickly. On my THR10IIW, I can connect to the app and do a million things, but honestly, I don't really care, I just dial it to high gain or lead or clean, maybe some chorus and reverb and that's good enough.

I still think you can get every possible sound out of a modeller if you fiddle enough with it, but I definitely get the appeal of just plugging in, turning it up and getting your face and eardrums melted.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

I'm pretty sure it's all the other frets that are low, sitar is awesome.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The 335 seems like it wouldn't be horrible to just restring as a leftie, but I don't know if the controls would be in the way of playing. The easy life as a rightie has never given me any chance to try out any upside down guitars except trying to play left handed on my right handed guitars (I am not ambidextrous either).

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

I remember playing a gig where the other band's guitarist was a leftie. I noticed he kept playing this loving weird rear end shape on the strings closest to his feet. This was a hard rock/metal band, so it seemed weird until I realised that that's how upside down power chords look. The guitar was a leftie, but strung as a rightie. I guess he learned to play that way?

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

luchadornado posted:

This is like the worst possible combo.. why?

For some reason I didn't really talk to the guy (I played bass and bonded with the bass player over his Rick copy (very cool, but also felt instantly bad and wrong in my hands)), so I didn't really ask him. But the way I see it, he would be able to play most guitars straight away while still keeping his dominant hand picking, so not a bad deal. I don't know how hard the shapes are, but I don't think they're intrinsically harder, just different.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Disco Pope posted:

So, I've recently moved on to improvising to backing tracks to put the scales I've practiced to use, and it sounds cool and musical, but there's an element of "random bullshit go!" to it. How do I move towards a bit more intentionality when improvising over just loving around in that key?

I'm also very much at this stage, but aside from the very good advice about following the chords, the thing that has made my noodling sound more like real music is repetition. Just playing the same thing twice or more, either just right after each other or with some other stuff between. You can even do variations on your little motif. It makes it sound a lot more planned and cool and less like you're just playing more or less random notes in a scale (which we are).

I even had some luck combining it with chord changes, take your motif and play the same scale degrees in the relative scale. For example, in A minor, I'll play something like "A C E F" over am, but when it goes to dm, I'll play "D F A B", which is kind of the same, but because of the mode change, the minor six becomes a major six.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Huxley posted:

Oh man, I dug the uke out after a few years in the closet, did a proper setup on it now that I actually know stuff and swapped the stock strings on it for the top 4 of a classical set (so I have a wound low G and brighter trebs) and ... this thing is a LOT of fun. The low G really makes a difference in how it feels to play coming from guitar.

If you have a ukulele you're bored with, put a low G on it.

Classical strings work on a ukulele? Guess I gotta find me a set then, I can't loving stand the high G.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

How are you even getting metal tones when your guitar isn't made out of heavy metals? I only play solid platinum guitars (gold fretboard). Incidentally, my back is broken for some reason.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

I feel like the best advice for an absolute beginner on guitar is to go almost entirely by looks, then look a bit at features and maybe try it on to see if it instantly feels horrible. Chances are that whatever looks cool to you is pretty well suited for what you want to do, and it will make you want to pick it up. Of course, if you want to do dive-bombs, get a locking trem, if you want 80s metal, consider a humbucker, and if you hate tuning, consider a fixed bridge, but other than that, most features are more taste than anything.

In your second guitar, you know why you chose wrong on the first and you can have a good opinion from there.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

I think machine cutting and the other machines that create guitars have gotten so good that the main thing affecting quality, beside quality of design and materials, is the wood warping, which is fairly random and can hit cheap Chinese guitars just as well as expensive American ones. Of course, curing the wood, getting the good growths and so on has a lot to say, but in the Fender mass production lines, I don't think they're pulling out the good stuff anyways.
Quality control is basically throwing out the worst of them, and I have some bad news about the willingness of companies to destroy inventory that can be sold.

What I'm saying is that cheap guitars can be just as good as expensive ones. Buy the one that feels right and/or looks coolest.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Baron von Eevl posted:

I doubt that's going to have a significant effect. LG, you're getting too in your own head about the tone.

Hard agree, but I'm also the kind of guy who will just dial in some distortion and call it good enough.

I do want to say that chasing a tone from an album or even live experience isn't just about the guitar sound, it's about how it mixes with the other instruments. A lot of awesome tones sound like poo poo in isolation, because they only work when there's a bass, a drum and a key to flesh them out.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Me, I'm crying on a Saturday night

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Spanish Manlove posted:

All guitars are dad guitars

Dads are from the 80s now, so yeah, superstrats and pointy stuff are very dad now. The only possible exception is headless 8+ string fanned fret models. And I guess Rickenbackers have moved to grandad status.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Ok Comboomer posted:

both of you need katanas

Agreed, but Vox has the market for stylish looking amps covered. It wouldn't be hard to compete, but no one is trying.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

landgrabber posted:

more of a songwriting thing i guess but, i have a really hard time coming up with my own rhythms for melodies, that sound "right" but don't result in my just accidentally transcribing songs i'm thinking of in my head.

It's gonna sound off until you've gotten used to the song, at which point it becomes the way it sounds. Make a few changes to whatever you're stealing and then just keep it up.

Comedy option is getting some coloured dice and assigning a note length to the number of eyes and ordering based on colour. You're gonna have to add some breaks if you don't want extreme prog though.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

There's no obvious brand, and I can't tell if it's warped or otherwise it of shape from the pictures, so who knows? Is there a truss rod in the hole on the head, and does it turn? How flat is the side with the frets (compared to a really flat thing like maybe a tabletop or slab of stone you have for some reason).

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

If I want a Fender, what brand should I actually get? Like, if I want a Gibson, I'm getting an ESP/LTD because they're essentially superior copies. But if I want a quality classic strat, where do I go?

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

The Fear posted:

thinkin about a squier bass vi for some low down sounds

I dont have a normal bass though maybe I should get a normal scale 4 string instead hmmm HMMM

A guitarist playing bass is never gonna fool anyone anyway, get the vi and make it obvious. Or an 8 string.

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BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Wowporn posted:

It worked for Carol Kay. If you're interested in doing proper bass technique like slapping or popping or whatever yeah that'll take actual time but if you as a guit player just pick up a p bass and play it with a pick it feels really good. I have a Gretsch junior jet bass and it's pretty friendly to guitar players with a decent range of sounds.

It worked and works for plenty of people, Lemmy is a prime example, but there is just something in the way a guitarist approaches a bass that is different than how a bassist approaches it. I think it's mostly about the role in the music, not really about technique, since plenty bass players play with a pick.

Which is not to say you shouldn't pick up a bass if you play guitar. You should, it's fun as hell. But try not to just think of it as a big boy guitar, it's its own thing in many ways.

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