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darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
I have a Fuzzrocious Rat Tail which kicks but between all the clipping options is a bit overkill (three clipping modes and then you can control the gain of the two diodes individually).

I had a small box white face too which was good.

I used an OG 80s big box in the studio once that didn't sound like either of them but had it's own vibe entirely and I would have fought the owner for that if I hadn't needed him to mix the rest of the record.

In conclusion, rats are a land of contrast.

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darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

BizarroAzrael posted:

Aw man what have I done? I've done some more tests and with the new pickups my Gretsch seems to have both pickups active regardless of switch position, how do you even do that? Seems like something you'd have to do on purpose, that accidentally you'd more likely disable one.

Sounds like an issue with how they have been soldered in to the switch. Did you check that a) the replacements went to exactly the same lugs as the original circuit, and b) everything was functional before mounting them back into the guitar?

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

luchadornado posted:

This is like the worst possible combo.. why?

A lot of lefties learn on their older siblings guitar or whatever is sitting around and just never relearn once they've got into it. My drummer plays guitar lefty-righty like that, and he also drums open handed on a righty kit (hat on left and snare on right).

It's mostly just a combination of 'self taught' and 'not many lefty guitars around' inertia. Plus people hate it when you rearrange a shared drum kit to lefty...

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
I think banjos are an interesting study for guitarists. They teach you about drone voicings, fingerpicking styles, and playing lead-melody - all on an instrument with limited sustain and a fixed key drone.

On the other hand you'd still have to learn feckin' banjo, so maybe just stick with the doom chords.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Verman posted:

And here I thought my old schecter diamond series acoustic was an anomaly. I can definitely see one of the hair bands of the late 80s/early 90s playing them on a power ballad, or even the modern misfits.

"So I need an acoustic, but it can't look like some john denver bullshit"

Do you care how it sounds?

"Not at all"

Ever since the invention of the thrice-damned piezo bridge people have been making inappropriately shaped acoustics. It doesn't matter what they sound like acoustically because amped up it all turns into "blatblatblatbzzz" anyway.



The era between the invention of the piezo bridge and the Fishman Aura/IR modelling was a grim time for live acoustic guitars.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
I'd nominate this turd - between the thinline stage acoustic and the piezo/active Warwick bass it's just a mix of lovely fretbuzz tone all round.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yam6mrCCvD4

Unfortunately piezo is absolutely the easiest way to get an acoustic tone to FoH without feedback in a loud environment, but god I really dislike them. They destroy dynamic range, body resonance, and attack. If you really have a good outboard setup and know your gear then they can be passable but that coffee house, "oh I know a guy who does sound sometimes", wrong impedence, percussion quack is everywhere. I'd rather hear an archtop Jazz guy with flats going straight to PA than that.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
I used to do my solo stuff on telecaster with a little Fender amp or the old orange Roland cubes all the time. Call it my Billy Bragg phase.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNcygbTNJyE

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Huxley posted:

nm: found a wiring diagram and the "black" wire hanging out is actually grey, which goes to ground.

Black/grey wire is probably the ground for the pickup cover.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
The problem with learning to setup and mod your own guitars is that eventually every problem starts to look like a soldering iron. Bought a cheap strat last weekend and two days later I've gutted all the wiring and redone it with a four way switch instead of getting another couple of hours practice in.

My other issue at the moment is that I'm gigging so often I rarely sit down to really "practice", so while my playing technique is way up there compared to usual I'm also only developing within one context of music. Looking forward to the end of festival season so I can do something new again!

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

a.p. dent posted:

i've heard people say you should practice unamplified so as to not rely on effects / volume as a crutch

You should practice clean regularly, but playing unamplified all the time will encourage overpicking and bad dynamic technique. The guitar is an amplified instrument and the amp is half of the whole; learning to control dynamics from your right hand and picking lightly and economically rather than digging under the strings for every note is just as important.

Edit: I spent a lot of years learning bass unamplified and it gave me horrendous technique that took a couple of years of serious amplified practice to unlearn. Its more important to have a consistent attack and let the amp do the work.

Side sort of related topic, that David Fair/Half Japanese column on how to learn guitar is probably a bit reductive but I've always loved that last line: "The idea is to put a pick in one hand and a guitar in the other, and with a tiny movement rule the world".

darkwasthenight fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Aug 3, 2022

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

a.p. dent posted:

i’ve been playing guitar and telling people about it for almost 30 years…people rarely ask this. they just assume you’re good

People assume:

1) you're good
2) that the bar for being good is way lower than you expect
3) you're some kind of willpower demon for being able to learn an instrument. If you can play something they recognise (literally anything) on top of that then you're golden.

They also really really want to tell you about how "I always wanted to learn guitar but I was rubbish at it". Yes, so was I. That's how it works: you "practice" doing the thing until you "get better" at "playing" the "guitar". :shrug:

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

BizarroAzrael posted:



Can anyone spot whats wrong with the connection for the neck pickup on my Tele clone here? Only the bridge position works (nothing from middle)

I tried fitting a filtertron but just reconnected this one when it didn't fit. I think the ground should be okay like that?

Multimeter time - tap out all the connections and make sure they're going where you think they're going. Those middle lugs don't look bridged at all apart from a skin of solder so not surprised you're having issues, but it's hard to be sure from photos.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Elissimpark posted:

I was flicking through the Cash Converters website (which is an Australian chain pawn shop) and saw one of these:



which is a Parker P-36. I'd be really interested to know who they'd be marketing a Teleparker to...

I played a P36 a few times when they came out. Great sounding guitar, very modern feel to the neck, had an average piezo sound you could mix in with the magnetics (small switch behind the bridge). My favourite Fly by far.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Clarence posted:

Thanks for the Floyd Rose pointers.

It does seem crazy that simply tuning can take 20-30 minutes!

That's only tuning from scratch with a set of fresh strings. Once it's balanced and locked it should effectively stay in tune until you unlock it again, bar the odd minor tweak to account for neck shift.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Noise Machine posted:

oh monolithic guitar thread - I have come to you in my hour of need.

I have a Squier Jazzmaster that I'm thinking of wrapping the bridge posts. I rest the edge of my picking hand on the bridge of any guitar I'm playing. On any other guitar it's fine, but on the Jazzmaster I find that it knocks my bridge out of alignment messing up the intonation and action. I'm not quite as concerned about adjusting the action every week or so back to where I like it or brushing some Loc-Tite on the screw posts, but having the angle of the bridge go forward and back is the thing that really annoys me as it takes me some time to get the bridge back to the position I intonated it in. I don't use the vibrato a ton but I do use it and would like to keep the option of using it open if I can. I've heard Sonic Youth would either wrap it in electrical tape or just buy a Mustang bridge. I've read other people (cough cough Michael Adams) recommend to buy the Mastery bridge but that's a little too much cash for what I'm willing to spend on this. I've also seen people wrap the bridge in aluminum foil. Anyone have any suggestions or tips for this, other than "Buy a Mastery"?

Wrap the bridge with electrical tape, yeah. It's essentially free and totally reversible if you don't get on with it. The pivoting bridge is less of an issue on tuning than made out.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
It's crazy that Rick Rubin ruined Make Believe and then ten more Weezer records in a row. What a dick.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Yeah, I don't like Rubin but I REALLY like bagging on Weezer.

Speaking of, work sent PFinnerty a bunch of merch and I addressed it to the "Official Weezer Fanclub c/o Pat" because I could. Stay tuned to see if he wears any of it.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Goons are all extremely of the age to have been listening to Blue/Pinkerton at an impressionable age and then had their teeth kicked in by Beverly Hills at the same time as life and everything else started kicking their teeth in. They're just the Phantom Menace of bands.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Kazinsal posted:

I still can't believe that the August is Falling EP is actually so loving good.

God drat and/or bless you, Pat Finnerty.

The joke is that Pat is going to get his hot tub, but not because of zoomers (who can spot an industry plant a mile away) but because of guitar nerds streaming his poo poo over and over "ironically".

What's a hot tub cost over there? 4-5K? I don't know about YouTube ad rates, but that works out about 1M streams on Spotify which is totally doable.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
There's something incredibly satisfying about a well set up cheap guitar.

I took my Squier VM Strat (stock vintage trem set for no up travel, no locking nut or tuners) out last night and really ragged the poo poo out of the bar for a solo. Repeatedly down to full slack for stupid motorcycle noises and then yanking it back up for siren sounds, but came back up perfectly in tune with zero issues.

For reference I was actually doing the solo section from this but without a ring mod, rather than a hair metal vibe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBf1E4u1GLY

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
The HB DCs are good at that price point. Hits the "no frills but decent playability" mark although will benefit from a proper setup and fretwork is fairly average.

I got the worn brown MK 1 model (not the FAT one which has the 50s neck and a stacked humbucker) and the wraparound bridge was totally unsuitable for the neck angle so bottomed out way too high; I changed it out for a cheap Wilkinson one piece. Wiring was okay but I put an Alnico 2 dogear and 250K pots in. Nut was only held on by string tension too, hahaha.

On a side note the 'ebony' fretboard is stained darker - looks like a cheaper wood underneath as they've only stained the front facing of the fretboard and the sides are more of a purple-red.

If you get chance to pick up a Vintage V120 I'd recommend that first as half the mods I recommended will come as stock and the price point isn't that much above the HB. Plus they come in White which is obviously the best DC Jr colour.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Huxley posted:

Help me shop again:

Dad says he wants "a single pedal that'll let me boost, distortion, reverb, tuner; something compact I can leave hooked up at church." He's tired of hauling a board back and forth.

So I assume he's looking for a multifx of some type with at least 3-4 footswitches. What's worth investigating? Knobs of any kind would be a plus. I'm also going to pitch just a small board of amazon knockoffs because I suspect that's what he actually SHOULD get, but I'm not sure if he's in a problem-solving mood or a toy-acquisition mood (I'm sure we all understand).

If he's not a tech guy ME80 for sure. No menus, just controls, and each pedal mostly does one thing (although it can do more complicated patch changes too).

If he's a bit more savvy then Zoom do a decent range with lots of worship-ready delays and reverb in there which work on a similar idea but with a bit more menu diving. G3n or G5.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Disco Pope posted:

Hey, that's what I play most days (sort of, my Strat is a MIM) and I'm very happy. Welcome aboard!

Actually, that reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask the thread - can pick-ups lose potency?

The neck pick-up on my Strat doesn't feel as dark as it used to. It works fine, but the difference between the middle and neck isn't as "woody" as I recall it being, although there is a noticable darkening of the tone. Is this a psychosomatic thing? I did drop to 9s and shelve it for a bit after a got a Tele, so im wondering if I'm looking for that night and day difference you get on a Tele which just isn't there on a Strat, especially with janglier 9s.

Another possibility is I'm just better at playing - I used to avoid neck pick-ups a lot to avoid booming low strings due to en-even strumming, but now I'm better at that, I'm not hearing that unwanted bassy noise I used to get.

Short answer is not within a couple of months. More likely to be strings dying or action and pickup height changes.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
A few of the guitars I thought were going to be 'lifers' ended up getting sold anyway. I've realised I get as much fun out of the chase as I do owning them and if I can sell for what I paid after a year than happy days.

Regarding sentimental ones - I've got a Squier CV Jazz in Inca silver which I bought in the car park at a festival we were headlining and immediately walked onstage with. We'd had to give our rental gear back and I didn't own any working basses, so was just the first thing I liked on Gumtree; took that one on national TV next day and became my main touring bass, although I'm into Ps now.



My last resort ride-or-die is a Tokai SG Special that is one of my favourites but mostly won't get sold because I played it at Wembley. Zero to complain about luckily, but I really only took it on the tour because I wanted another white guitar to match my rental... It's a funny business.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Nasty. That's 200 dollars of firewood now... Reverb are usually good with that stuff so bet it'll be a straight swap.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Baron von Eevl posted:

One of these days I need to get around to buying a bunch of Behringer SF300s and rehousing them in a metal enclosure and charging like $200 for them.

The bypass is a pain in the dick to rehouse or there'd already be a market for it. Lad I work with managed it but said it wasn't worth the time and effort that went in versus just building your own clone on PCB.

Disco Pope posted:

I saw Dinosaur Jr last night and I counted at least 5 guitar switches. J Mascis understands that guitars aren't used up after playing a song, right?

We've invited them to swing by the warehouse to play some amps while they're in the UK, but I'm away so not heard whether they're up for it yet. Fingers crossed!

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

syntaxfunction posted:

I will also restate that while I'm selling my Gibson I am 100% getting another Les Paul. Les Pauls are amazing.

Probably getting a humbucker one this time I think. Play that through my JCM2000 clone. Pure rock.

Edit: If the Epiphone Les Paul Prophecy didn't have active pickups it'd be perfect, altho honestly I'm thinking of checking one out because I hear great things about Fishman pickups.

Fluences seem to be the least 'active-y' actives at the moment. The two voicing idea is interesting but I'd probably find myself sat in one voicing all the time anyway and I hate any type of push pot, so I'd rather have it on an internal dip of some kind.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Somebody played Hero at an open mic I drifted through last weekend. There's a good tune somewhere under all the creaking power-ballad trappings, but it's a baffler of a choice to drop as one of your designated three...

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Wowporn posted:

Is this how that actually works? Would putting a volume pedal/eq pedal with all the sliders way down negate the need for an expensive attenuator on amps that have fx loops?? Seems like cheating

My DI box is 16 ohms so I end up having to turn my amps up pretty loud when recording straight in cause of the falloff from that (and additional volume sapping from my cab sim pedal), I keep my blues junior knockoff at like 8 when recording even though I'd never play it in my place that loud through it's actual speaker

The volume pot trick is adding a master volume to the preamp, not attenuation in the classical "driving the power tubes harder" sense.

That said, there aren't many amps with a loop but no MV, so it's a bit of a limited use case. Seemed to have a bit of a cultural moment because the Fender Hot Rod used the wrong value pot on the clean volume so all the taper was in the first 10% of the pot - in this case the loop volume gives you a bit more control without having to swap any components out.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

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Plank Walker posted:

So I buckled and got a CV Jaguar, any tips on the bridge? Put some heavier strings on it (10.5 - 42s) and noticed while setting the intonation that the bridge likes to rock towards the neck or tail and sit there. Is the correct move to just re-center it every time this happens? I'm guessing once you get the intonation set, if the bridge moves, you can just wiggle it back to center until it's back in tune? Also I didn't realize the pickups were just sitting on foam and was very confused that they didn't move at all when I tried to raise them a bit.

Other than that it sounds and plays great and it's nice to finally have a non-Floyd guitar on hand to try some other tunings.

In theory the bridge should be able to pivot forwards and backwards with the strings as you use the wiggle bar and remain in the tune. In practice it'll probably end up sitting one way or the other most of the time...

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
I had an 83 Jazz Bass that smelt incredible. Mix of finish and the lemon oil the previous owner used I think. I've never found any other acoustics that smell as strongly than Martins though - mine smelt of fresh wood for years until it got caught in a rainstorm at an outdoor gig and gave up the will to live.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
Pat trolling Beato is just because it's funny to describe any kind of theory knowledge as "a Beato" and also it's a fun word to say. Bee AH tow! I don't think there's any kind of real malice in it. He's pretty boomer in his taste I guess?

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

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massive spider posted:

The thing about 900's is they appear in rehersal studio/gig backlines a lot due to being "undesirable" amps and I've played some amazing ones and some dogshit ones but I dont know what the distinction is. I THINK the SLX are the good ones and the dual reverb bad? But that could just be due to disrepair idk.

Mk III was the diode boys and the SLX replaced them with another tube stage. Haven't played either but there's less of a solid state stigma these days if the circuit is well voiced.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

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muike posted:

bend the ball ends at a 90 degree angle with a pair of pliers

This and an eraser or stiff piece of foam to hold the ball ends onto the pins while you gently caress around. They're really not that awful when you get used to them, but don't make the mistake of always putting the high E on last and then not having enough space to get your fingers under to hook the ball end.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

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landgrabber posted:

strats rule cause if you accidentally right hand mute too hard you'll knock the body a bit and make the internal springs ring out, making you sound worse than if you just left consonant notes sustaining and did some drone poo poo

top shelf stuff

Don't get an offset.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
The MIG-50 has a little more of the JTM-45 vibe than straight Bassman, but it's the cheapest way to get the JTM thing at the moment. Expensive circuits as Marshall only does them as reissued (although the SV20 is pretty nice too).

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

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Doctor Dogballs posted:

did they ever make a "guitar bassman?" it's a bass amp (that's why it's called a bassman) that people nevertheless like to play their guitars through. have I misunderstood something? what's a bass breaker?

The 'Bassman' named circuit Fender offer at the moment is a high output solid state bass amp - very different from the older circuit. Bassbreaker was their new range a few years back which was loosely based around Bassman circuits with a bunch of modernisations for gain.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
If you can actively see marks or flat spots on the frets then it could do with some attention, particularly if the issue is only confined to one fret (low nut or action would likely affect larger areas of the board).

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

WEEDSMOKER posted:

Looking for a Tele model I saw a long time ago. Fender and had stock two P-90s. I think maybe a run from the early-mid 2000's. There were a couple going for $500. I'd appreciate the help.

Modern Player Thinline Deluxe or the FSR '72 Custom P90 are the only two that pop to mind with both bridge and neck P90 but they're 2010 onwards.

There was also the Squier Custom II and the Jim Adkins JA90 (which had more of an LP setup on the tele body) both around the right era but respectively cheaper and way more expensive than 500.

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darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
China has already priced itself out and everybody has moved onto Indonesia as the new cheap manufacturer - Squier moving all production there in 2016 was the first sign.

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