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Rythian posted:I personally think Sahwit is innocent, and Larry totally did it. I think it was suicide.
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DKII posted:Also to some extent I am more interested in how many people would actually vote in ten simultaneous polls.
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Part 6: Episode 1, Trial: Incompetent Cross Quick update today while I close the polls and put together the results. So, presenting evidence is pretty simple.  Press "Tab" to bring up the Court Record, scroll around to find the evidence that clearly contradicts the witness statement, and press "E" to present it!  Any time we present evidence, we yell "Objection!", complete with a voiced line from our hero. It's not at all how objections work, but it's still awesome so I don't care.  We also cut straight to the awesome pointing pose!  We're very confident that this Attorney's Badge completely annihilates the witness testimony about what he saw.  The judge is not so sure...  ...Because we're full of poo poo.  Not at all. See that bar in the upper-right? Think of it like a health bar, with ten sections to it. We lose two sections every time we present evidence incorrectly. Why do we lose two sections of a ten-section bar, instead of one section of a five-section bar?   Yeah, no kidding....  Interestingly enough, presenting evidence incorrectly still leaves you on the same line of dialogue as before, so you can still "Press" or even "Present" a different piece of evidence. Get it wrong again, though...   ...? It does? I don't see anything contradictory... Objection overruled. Two more health sections gone!  (Whoops! That didn't go so well.)We get the same scene the next two times when goofing up presenting. The fifth time gets us a new scene:   ... Unfortunately, I will have to penalize you, Mr. Wright. (Ugh. I must be on the wrong track?)After five failures....   This court sees no reason to further prolong the trial. The defense has failed to give the court sufficient reason to doubt the prosecution's claim. This court finds the defendant, Mr. Larry Butz... Cool effect. Guess we don't need juries when the judge can just declare you guilty!  To be held pending trial at a higher court within a month from today's date. That is all. This court is adjourned!Wait, we get another trial? Maybe Larry still has a shot!   We don't get another shot, though. The gavel bangs and the doors are shut in our face. We're then dumped unceremoniously back to the title screen. I hope you saved recently!
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DKII posted:We don't get another shot, though. The gavel bangs and the doors are shut in our face. We're then dumped unceremoniously back to the title screen. I hope you saved recently! Starting with game, like, 5, they got a lot nicer about this - you get the option to Continue and pick back up from the same testimony. Fitting, because the trials started getting longer.
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Quackles posted:Starting with game, like, 5, they got a lot nicer about this - you get the option to Continue and pick back up from the same testimony. It took five games to figure out to put in an automatic checkpoint? 
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Told you he was guilty. Justice has been served this day.
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The reason why it's 2 ticks on 10 bars is because the original first game had 5 possible mistakes. Later games had different damage intervals.
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In case you haven't figured it out - there's usually some extra blurb of test if you go past the end of the testimony. It doesn't kick you out of testimony mode or anything.
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I called it, he was guilty! When something smells, it's usually the Butz!
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Part 7: Episode 1, Trial: Competent Cross I lied a little bit with the votes. This is still the tutorial episode so our choices don't really matter yet. But I'll grade you all anyway.  I was going door-to-door, selling subscriptions when I saw a man fleeing an apartment.We know this isn't strictly true, thanks to the prologue, but we can't prove it.  We could just let it slide, but let's "Press" for more information.  Pressing gets us another shouted phrase, complete with a voiced line again.  No pointing this time, though.  I find it odd you would take notice of him... Er... heh. I don't know. He just seemed strange to me, that's all. Like he was mad, and yet frightened at the same time. Just like... a criminal fleeing the scene of a crime!It seems to be optional to press the witness on their statements, but doing so can reveal more about the witness or the testimony sometimes if you need help figuring things out. In this case we know the guy is guilty and I'm pretty sure how to nail him, but I assume later cases won't be so easy to figure out, and this particular "Press" revealed a witness that's both nervous and a little too eager to characterize the defendant as a criminal.  We, of course, are having none of that.  The defense requests that the witness refrain from conjecture! Dude you are not supposed to be testifying, the witness should speak for himself.  Each time we press, there is a seamless transition to the next line of testimony. I'm not really sure how these cross-examinations are supposed to work narratively (is the entire testimony given once up front, and then again during the cross?) but this mechanic works better for within a game and is actually quite fun. Anyway, onto the next line.... I thought he must be in a hurry because he left the door half-open behind him.  Yeah, we're going to "Press" again here, and I made a nice icon to represent our choice. In fact, at least for this episode, we should really press on every statement. You'll see why when we get to the end. Half-open... you say?Way to really put the screws to him there! Yes, yes, the door was open halfway. Yes. I watched for a moment, but no one came to close the door. "That's odd, in a big city like this," I thought... Thinking it strange, I looked inside the apartment.  Well, the door was half-open, you see. Isn't it only human to want to... peek? We climb mountains because they are there! It's the same thing. (Hmm... why did Payne cut him off so quickly?)Good observation, there. Something to pull at later?  Then I saw her lying there... A woman... not moving... dead!  Are you sure she was dead? W-Well, no, I guess I wasn't.Not when you first saw her she wasn't! But, she wasn't moving at all, and there was blood everywhere. (I guess that would look fatal to anyone...) I'm not sure why we're the one prompting the witness to continue here, but let's move on. I quailed in fright and found myself unable to go inside.  This question seems like a good one to catch him on later, if we can figure out a little more about what happened. Um, yes. I mean no! Nothing.Very convincing.  I thought to call the police immediately! You "thought" to call the police? Does that mean you didn't actually call them!?Ugh, that one's dumb. Guess they can't all be winners.  Didn't we already listen to the rest? I really don't get how this cross-examination works I guess.  However, the phone in her apartment wasn't working. Someone correctly identified a contradiction here, but we don't have anything we can actually present about it. We do get a little more from pressing, however.... The phone in her apartment wasn't working? But you said you didn't go into the apartment... or did you!?Exactly the point I brought up earlier - how did he know the phone wasn't working if he never went inside?  There was a cordless phone on a shelf in the entranceway. I reached inside and tried using that to call... And that phone wasn't working, correct?Objection, leading the witness! Hmm I don't think we can press or present during these parts, actually. Anyway, it turns out that hole has a simple explanation, even if it contradicts his earlier statement that he didn't touch ANYTHING in the apartment. And we know that's a lie anyway, but I don't see quite how to prove it yet.  I went to a nearby park and found a public phone. Why use a public phone? Well, you see, I don't have a cell phone.(Remember, this game first came out in 2001.) And, being the middle of the afternon, there was no answer at the nearby apartments. I remember the time exactly: It was 1:00 PM. Everyone's eager to present here; bear with me a moment while I press for more information first. 1:00 PM! Are you certain? Yes. Absolutely. (Hmm... He seems really confident.)Yes, the one answer he's most confident in is the one we know he's lying about.  Since we're still in tutorial land, Mia is going to help us out.  Wright. Doesn't that seem strange to you? Present some evidence to contradict him! Unlike every other time we press the witness, we're brought back to the original statement to get it right this time. I'm actually going to skip it for now, though, and move on to the last line of the testimony. The man who ran was, without a doubt, the defendant sitting right over there. Are you absolutely, 100% positive?That was a waste of a hand slam, Phoenix, I'm not going to keep showing it if you're going to follow it up with a weak-rear end line like that.  The witness says he's certain! Now that we've exhausted all of the testimony without figuring it out, Mia is going to help us out again. There must be a contradiction in there somewhere. Examine the Court Record with "Tab" if something strikes you as being suspicious. Then, find the evidence that contradicts his testimony, and present it to the court! I was kind of hoping that the trial would end there and our client would be found guilty again, but instead we're just brought back to the start of the testimony. Useful if you need to revisit something. Also the reason I held off on presenting evidence on that earlier line; it would lock us out of seeing the rest of the "pressing" dialogue.  I also just realized while writing this update that the middle parts of the testimony are the only dialog boxes I've seen with two arrows. Can we freely navigate here? (Answer after some side testing: Yes!) Well, that changes things. We can press on a line and then go right back to it to present evidence. Or skip a line and come back to it later. Hmm....  All right, let's finally present the autopsy report, which contradicts Mr. Sahwit's statement that he found the body at 1:00 PM.  Music: Silence  You're sure?We already asked that, but whatever. Yes. It was 1:00 PM, for certain. Frankly, I find that hard to believe!Music: Objection!  Hold on, I need to make something.  Muah, magnifique!  The autopsy notes the time of death at sometime after 4PM. There was nobody to... er... no "body" to find at 1:00 PM! Triumph!  We're making the guy sweat, now!  Oh, that! Oh, er...Hey, that wasn't me.  That's as bad as some of our earlier attempts. Oh I just realized that our buddy Winston Payne, who serves opposite us in the courtroom, has the opposite initials as our hero Phoenix Wright. That's a cool touch. Oh my god, looking at his face there, his name is actually another pun! Winced-in-Pain!  Mr. Sahwit... Why were you so certain that you found the body at 1:00 PM? I... er... well, I... Gee, that's a really good question! That's all you have to do: point out contradictions! Lies always beget more lies! See through one, and their whole story falls apart!Mia is still pouting at us despite praising us here. I guess we have a deep hole to climb out of with her. The audience votes scored a perfect 100% though! (Okay, the correct answer for the 9th line was really both "Press" and "Present", but I didn't allow that option, so you all get full credit anyway!)  Would you care to give your testimony again?We're not done yet...the witness gets a chance to redeem himself. Next time we'll see if we can really nail him!
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The courtroom animations in this game are pretty solid thus far. The fact the opposing attorney is sweating right along with his client is a nice touch too.Haar_Dragon posted:"yeah polling every time will become extremely slow."
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Haar_Dragon posted:I'm gonna join the echo chamber here, both for "Ooh, blind Ace Attorney!" and "yeah polling every time will become extremely slow." Don't worry about moving slow just yet, we've had five updates in eight days when I was looking to do a couple a week. MagusofStars posted:If nothing else, maybe at least make the polls like a single Google poll with 10 questions rather than opening ten different links. Nah, I probably won't do it that way again. Or maybe not at all. I do like audience-driven narrative but I can find better ways to fit it in.
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The problem with audience driven narrative here is there's only one way to conquer each case (I think) and you can usually figure it out pretty easy. If you're stumped and want help from people who maybe have played the game, a poll might be good. Otherwise, it may not be necessary.
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I can't believe the Happy Mask Salesman is involved in foul play.
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Part 8: Episode 1, Trial: Lies Beget Lies Oh, this should be good. Music: Questioning - Moderato You see, when I found the body, I heard the time.  Oh, but it was three hours off, wasn't it? I guess the victim must have been watching a video of a taped program! Terribly sorry about the misunderstanding...I'm not even going to hold a vote on this cross. Come on.  Mr. Wright, you may cross-examine the witness. Mia I think your face got stuck in that expression. You know what to do! I've got this one. Music: Questioning - Allegro I'll start by pressing our witness on every line again.... You see, when I found the body, I heard the time. Yes, heard. All I saw was the body lying there... I didn't think to look at anything else, least of all my watch. Hmm... Isn't that a little strange? So you're saying you "heard" something. But if you were so shocked by the body, you wouldn't hear anything at all!Wrong tree, guy. Let's go bark somewhere else.   It's ludicrous to suggest he "wouldn't hear anything"! Hmm... I have to agree with the prosecution. There was a voice saying the time... It was probably coming from the television. Uhh... Well, no, I guess it might have been a radio. Incidentally, there was no radio on the premises.  I can't put my finger on it, but something about this seems fishy. Something about "hearing" the television...You don't say....  Oh, but it was three hours off, wasn't it? He...explains it in the next line?  I guess the victim must have been watching a video of a taped program! The game doesn't put much effort into these presses, given that most people probably jumped straight to the right answer.... Yes, that would explain why the time was wrong! True, true... Wright! Yeah, yeah, I'm getting there.  That's why I thought it was 1:00 PM! Yes, I can practically hear it now. It was quite clear. Mr. Payne, has the prosecution verified this testimony? I, too, have only just learned that the witness "heard" the time. Terribly sorry about the misunderstanding...  Your words, not mine. Well, we've reached the end of the testimony, what now?  Now that you mention it...  I get the feeling I'm going to use each piece of evidence once here. Except maybe our badge. Anyway, we heard there was a blackout and that's why Mr. Sahwit couldn't use the phone. So how could he have heard the time from the TV? Music: Silence  Pro tip: Don't try to object in a real court by yelling and pointing.  The prosecution has said there was a blackout at the time of the discovery!  Music: Objection!  Gah!!! I... well... urk! Do you have an explanation for this, Mr. Sahwit? ...  W-wait! I remember now! Mr. Sahwit? These constant corrections are harming your credibility.  ..! M-my apologies, Your Honor! It... er, it must have been the shock of finding the body! Very well, Mr. Sahwit.  Let's see how he changes his story this time... Music: Questioning - Moderato  There was a table clock in the apartment, wasn't there! Yeah, the murder weapon! The killer used it to hit the victim! That must have been what I saw.....Huh? That doesn't even make sense. Music: Silence  The defense may cross-examine the witness. Music: Questioning - Allegro Actually, I didn't "hear" the time... I "saw" it! Yes, I can see how you'd be a little doubtful... I'm really sorry. I only just remembered that table clock! The judge is just as confused about this mystery "table clock" as I am. There was a table clock in the apartment, wasn't there!  Yeah, the murder weapon! The killer used it to hit the victim! Am I going crazy here? Wasn't the murder weapon a statue? Yes, the table clock that was used as a weapon! That's what I just said. Did you doze off in the middle of my testimony or something? That must have been what I saw. I guess it just slipped my mind! I'm not really sure how it happened myself... Yeah, nothing more to see here, sure....  On it!  Music: Silence   Now how is this supposed to be a clock?Music: Pressing Pursuit - Cornered   New sprites, we've got him on the ropes now!    Yes, Mr. Payne? The gently caress you say? The neck is a switch. You just tilt it, and it says the time out loud?And how would Mr. Sahwit know that, let alone have pressed the switch?  I see. Well, Mr. Wright? It appears that the witness's testimony was correct. This is a clock. Do you have any problems with his testimony now? Yes, but I kind of want to see how Mia yells at us if I pick "No".  There was a clock on the scene, so, no problem.  That clock doesn't look like a clock at all! The witness couldn't have possibly known it was a clock just by seeing it! He said himself, he never entered the apartment! It was in his testimony!   The only way he could have known the weapon was a clock is to hold it in his hand.Since we end up objecting anyway, no surprise that it's a shorter path if you just say "Yes":  The only way he could have known the weapon was a clock is to hold it in his hand.And we're back together.  Clearly, a contradiction! Hmm... indeed! The witness knew it was a clock, because he... I mean, obviously Mr. Sahwit knew the victim and had been seen it before, that's why he knew it was a clock!  In fact, you were one of her "sugar daddies"! Be frank with us, Mr. Sahwit!Ha! Hmph.  Your Honor. Mr. Frank Sahwit does not appear anywhere.Well where was that evidence in the court record?!   I do love this judge.  I didn't actually lose any health sections for that one, though!   We're automatically brought back to the same choice, so let's pick the correct answer this time. Obviously Mr. Frank Sahwit not only entered the apartment, he handled the murder weapon!  I see why this image has been so iconic in internet meme-land. You were inside the apartment on the day of the murder! This animation showed up a few times now, but here's the best place to really show it off!  Oh yeah? Prove it! Prove I went in there!Technically I don't have to, your credibility is already so shot that there is no shortage of reasonable doubt for getting our client off. I'll do better than that! I can prove you were the one who killed her!   More murmurs from the jury. We really struck a nerve with that one! Order in the court! Yes, Your Honor. (Sorry, had to shrink that one down a bit, but it was too good not to show, even though it's actually the same as the one from the prologue.)    That voice was burned into your mind.Yeah that would be pretty memorable.    This is all baseless conjecture! Baseless...?   Did you strike the victim with the clock? Are you telling it or living it, stay with me here.  Watch out, he's gonna blow!  Music: Silence     I-it was him, I tell you! I saw him! H-he killed her and he should burn! Burn! Give him death! The talking heads converse amongst themselves once more. Order! Order in the court I say! There isn't a shred of evidence supporting the defense's claims! Mr. Wright! Your Honor? Do you have any evidence? (The whole case is riding on this! I'd better think it through carefully!) Y-Your Honor. A fact which is clear if you simply... Hey, the health bar shows up here, I get that means we get penalized for guessing wrong here. Any ideas? DKII fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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Reasonable doubt? No such concept exists in Japanifornia!
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This is the good Ace Atorney stuff. The increasingly implausible back and forth between you, the witness, and the prosecutor, just *chef's kiss*.
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Cyouni posted:Reasonable
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Side note: That's not the jury in the stands there. Just the crowd. I'm told they sell tickets.
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Quackles posted:Side note: That's not the jury in the stands there. Just the crowd. Well, hangings used to be a public event I suppose, so why not?
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Quackles posted:Side note: That's not the jury in the stands there. Just the crowd. Yeah I was wondering about that, given everything is judge-driven. I'll probably keep calling them the jury until this trial is over to maintain the initial impression. Selling tickets to a high-profile trial is an interesting idea. Raise money for the victims? Or just bonuses for the prosecution? Hmm...
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DKII posted:Yeah I was wondering about that, given everything is judge-driven. I'll probably keep calling them the jury until this trial is over to maintain the initial impression. They do seem like the jury, but there's too many of them. The trials are just a public event. Although where the money from ticket sales goes is an interesting question given the state of the court system. I want to add more to that statement but honestly saying anything beyond that would probably qualify as "too much."
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Real US trials are also (constitutionally required) public events. The court itself doesn't sell tickets, but you can pay someone to stand in the first-come-first-served line for you.
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Part 9: Episode 1, Trial: Not Guilty The choice is clear.  Ignore the disappearing health sections; I played through a few times to get all the extra dialogue. I did pick this option the first time through, since I was too afraid of getting something wrong to explore the dialogue trees. I wasn't really sure how sounding the clock was going to help, but it's really the only one of the three that at least kind of makes sense.   Angrily pointing at the judge to make a polite request seems a bit off.  Music: Silence   Music: Pressing Pursuit - Cornered - Variation   So, we've heard the clock. What are your conclusions, Mr. Wright? Mr. Payne... can you tell me what time it is now? Ack! Precisely the discrepancy between what Mr. Sahwit heard and the actual time of death!quote:I'll be posting alternate dialogue in these quote boxes, so you can skip past it if you like. So it seems we got it right on the first try, but what happens if we don't? What about those batteries?  I'd kind of forgotten this guy was still missing his hairpiece. The court just let that go without comment, huh? Try to talk your way out of this one! ... ...Hah! Hah hah! You forgot one thing!  It proves nothing! How do you know it was running three hours slow on the day of the murder!? What am I, the prosecutor? Do I really have to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that Mr. Sahwit is the killer just to get Larry off? ...!  (Dammit! I was so close!) Mr. Wright? Man, screw you, I got my client off like two updates ago. ...! Yes, Your Honor. This means I cannot let you indict the witness. Unfortunately...Music: Silence  Wait, that's it?  You treat me like a criminal! A criminal! You lawyers are all slime!  (Sorry, Larry... I failed you.) (There's nothing I can do about it now...)Music: Pressing Pursuit - Cornered - Variation  Mia's here to save the day! Cue reaction shots!    Listen up, Wright! But, Chief, it's over. Nobody can prove that!Is there no chain of evidence in this fantasy legal system? Did someone tamper with the clock-statue while it was in police custody for the whole three days leading up to the trial? Why would the clock be any different now than it was then? Um... well, yes. "Thinking out of the box" in adventure games usually means "try everything in your inventory until something randomly works". Don't waste time doubting the facts. Assume the clock was three hours slow and... Think through it! Figure out the reason, and you'll have your proof! Right, Wright? Can you think of a reason as to why the clock would be three hours slow? I have no idea but picked "Yes" anyway because logic! ... Wait! You must have evidence somewhere that can prove it, Wright! Find it and let them have it! You say the clock was already running slow on the day of the murder... Have you found evidence to support this claim? Of course. For once he feels more confident than I do at this point. To be fair I hadn't looked at the Court Record in a long time and hadn't written up any of these updates yet.  quote:But first, what if earlier we'd said "No", we had no idea why the clock would be slow?   The only two things we haven't used yet are our attorney's badge and this passport. I can't imagine the badge being useful. The passport at least shows that the victim was in Paris, which could be a different time zone?  No matter what evidence we pick, we get another voiced line here, kind of funny. I didn't do it this way originally, but here's what happens if you get it wrong:  Notice the lack of a health bar here. I can't see what that evidence has to do with the clock. You're welcome. One more chance... Give me just one more chance! Be quick about it.Despite that statement, we get as many chances as we need to try out everything we have, as many times as we want even. The dialogue never changes. I also let the game sit on the evidence screen for several minutes and it never did anything. Anyway, the correct answer...   As we all know, the time difference between here and Paris is nine hours!Have we ever figured out where "here" is yet? Apparently Paris is nine hours ahead of Los Angeles, and the US west coast in general, among other things. So maybe there, or somewhere else in California? I could imagine the courts being this screwy in Los Angeles.  The key revelation here, is the clock never actually says AM or PM. Despite Mr. Sahwit saying he clearly heard "1:00 PM", our experiment with the clock earlier showed otherwise.  I admit I didn't really see that coming, but this case is pretty forgiving at least. I get the feeling I won't have as easy a time of it in later episodes.  That's why the time you heard when you struck her dead in her apartment was wrong! Ooh, snap! I didn't expect the game to just call out the pun in his name like that.  Music: Silence  Oh poo poo I think we killed him!  The jury/crowd/whoever treats the spectacle the same as any other big reveal; that is, with mild interest and murmured conversations.  We fade to black, and then come back, apparently some time later? Did the guy get taken off to a hospital? Or a morgue? Music: Trial  This case has certainly turned out differently than we all expected. Mr. Payne... Your witness?  Probably cuffed him in the ambulance while he was unconscious. Very well. Mr. Wright? Yes, Your Honor. I have to say, I'm impressed. ...and find the true culprit at the same time!According to the start of the update, it's still before lunchtime on the first day of the trial, less than three full days after the murder. Thank you, Your Honor. This court finds the defendant, Mr. Larry Butz...Music: Silence  We did it!  There's a confetti shower for a "Not Guilty" verdict? Are they that rare in this court? There's also a cheering and applause sound effect to go with it! Turns out that's not the jury at all up in the stands, but an audience? The judge here seems to be the whole arbiter of guilt in this game, anyway.  GG everyone, see you all in Phoenix Wright 2!
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DKII posted:
Someone said so earlier, but in JP, the game is explicitly set in Japan. But I'm told that when someone asked a rep from Capcom why "California" had a bunch of really obvious Japan-isms, the official answer given was that it takes place in an Alternate California in which Japanese Internment during WWII wasn't a thing, and they were instead allowed to influence the local culture. It's long enough ago that I don't remember where I heard this exactly, but I feel like it raises more questions than it answers. Really uncomfortable questions.
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Haar_Dragon posted:Someone said so earlier, but in JP, the game is explicitly set in Japan. But I'm told that when someone asked a rep from Capcom why "California" had a bunch of really obvious Japan-isms, the official answer given was that it takes place in an Alternate California in which Japanese Internment during WWII wasn't a thing, and they were instead allowed to influence the local culture. The real answer is that Capcom didn't imagine the series would have any legs, so they went ahead and localized references to Japanese culture and then wound up writing themselves into a corner later on.
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Tokyo is 7 hours ahead of Paris. That means the localizers tampered with the evidence! I'm sure 2001 was a different era and they didn't want to take a risk, but I really wouldn't have minded if they'd just left it as set in Japan for the localization.
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Haar_Dragon posted:Someone said so earlier, but in JP, the game is explicitly set in Japan. But I'm told that when someone asked a rep from Capcom why "California" had a bunch of really obvious Japan-isms, the official answer given was that it takes place in an Alternate California in which Japanese Internment during WWII wasn't a thing, and they were instead allowed to influence the local culture. This never really goes away. I'll point out examples when they show up. DKII posted:Tokyo is 7 hours ahead of Paris. That means the localizers tampered with the evidence! I believe it was originally that she had traveled to the US of A from Tokyo. Same time difference, conveniently.
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Jul 27, 2022 04:51
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The goofy Japanifornia setting is great and I am glad that the localisers set the game in LA.
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the holy poopacy posted:The real answer is that Capcom didn't imagine the series would have any legs, so they went ahead and localized references to Japanese culture and then wound up writing themselves into a corner later on. I mean, it's not too bad to cover up in AA1, but the localization team couldn't have predicted a lot of the later things. If anything I'm glad they leaned into it rather than just throwing up their hands and going "welp, jig's up!" SirSamVimes posted:The goofy Japanifornia setting is great and I am glad that the localisers set the game in LA. Also this, wouldn't give up Japanifornia.
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Jul 27, 2022 12:55
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The classic Awkward Zombie comic (very slight spoiler of characters from the 2nd trilogy) https://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic/culture-schlock
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Jul 27, 2022 16:34
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Eat your hamburgers, Apo-Tarezax posted:The classic Awkward Zombie comic (very slight spoiler of characters from the 2nd trilogy)
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There are some characters where the localisation made them 1000% more hilarious. edit: tagged spoiler removed after rereading op. Y'all probably know who I'm talking about anyway.
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I wish I had a traditional American kotatsu. It's cold today
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