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DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 159: Episode 5, Final Day, Trial Latter: Witness Intimidation



The poll was kind of a trick question. Did you catch the option at the bottom?



The right answer, is to admit we have no proof. And really, we have nothing here. Or at least, nothing else we have is something I can currently use against Gant, with what I know now.



Music: Silence



Hmph!

See, Udgey?



In that case...


Sound: Realization

Wait, what? Were we supposed to present something after all?

Music: Suspense

What?
Sound: Light Bulb



quote:

Original line: "I don't gamble unless the stakes are high!" Doesn't make as much sense.


Sound: Light Bulb

Okay Udgey, I'll leave the rest to you!
Sound: Whack
Sound: Clapping



Gant fades out, and we fade to black...

I warned you earlier, Mr. Wright.



...

Music: Silence


Sound: Guilty

You can see the health bar in the upper-right, with the last two health sections glowing red on and off. Normally, that's a sign of an impending penalty (and shows up on crosses and certain other prompts).


Sound: Wipe


Sound: Drama Pound

As we panic about an impending penalty, Edgeworth intercedes...

quote:

So what if we tried to present something?

(I can't let him squirm his way out of this!)

Music: Silence

(I've got to keep the pressure on!)

Yes, Your Honor. I do have such evidence.


Sound: Gavel

Music: Logic and Trick

Then please hurry up and present it. Just remember,

it better prove Chief Gant murdered Detective Goodman beyond a shadow of a doubt!

That line is a pretty clear hint that we leapt off the cliff too soon. We get an evidence prompt here, but no matter what we pick...



So...

Er, what exactly is this evidence?
Sound: Light Bulb

Music: Silence

It's proof. As to whether or not it's enough to demonstrate the Chief's guilt...

I'll let you be the judge!
Sound: Whack

But... I AM the judge.
Sound: Realization

Oh, right...

Well, what do you think, Your Honor?
Sound: Realization

What I think, Mr. Wright,

is I'm going to be late for lunch.
Sound: Damage 2

Another penalty trap, since there was no hint of a penalty in the choice to present evidence (there was when choosing what evidence to present, but it was too late at that point).

Music: Logic and Trick

(I guess it wasn't enough...)

Please, Your Honor! Give me just a little longer to consider!

Hmm...

I'll say it again, Mr. Wright. Damon Gant is the current Chief of Police.

From there we go through the rest of the scene leading up to the original prompt at the start of this update, to allow us to go down a better path next time.


Sound: Realization

Up until the last moment I thought there would be some dramatic objection and entrance from someone with more evidence to prevent Gant from leaving (maybe Ema?), but apparently we really are just going to let him go. Instead, we'll go after someone else...

Mr. Edgeworth? What do you mean!?
Sound: Light Bulb



We haven't yet had the honor of hearing her testimony.

(A lady who knows the truth... Another witness!)



But Chief Gant has invoked his right to refuse to testify!
Sound: Whack


Sound: Realization

Music: Suspense

raised in this trial. Someone right in this very room!

Mr. Edgeworth!

Who is this person!?
Sound: Whack

Hmph...



Why are you asking me, Your Honor?

Have you forgotten?




Sound: Gavel

Mr. Wright. Does such a witness exist?



(But we can't just stop now!)





Only one person makes sense here, the hints aren't even really necessary.



In order to get our client off on the murder charge, we are going to have to get her to confess to conspiracy instead.



The defendant...
Sound: Realization

Music: Silence

Ms. Lana Skye!?
Sound: Drama Pound + Stab








Sound: Desk Slam

in accordance with a certain someone's orders!

Hmm...

Mr. Edgeworth...?

The prosecution has no objections, Your Honor.


Sound: Gavel

quote:

Get this choice wrong, and...






Sound: Desk Slam

I thought we were walking the same path together, Mr. Wright.

It appears somewhere along the way you got lost.

You'd better find your way back, Mr. Wright, or you'll be left behind!
Sound: Damage 2

Penalties all over the place in this segment.

(There's another "witness" who can expose Chief Gant's crime...)

(One whom we've all let stand at the sidelines...)

(Now that I think about it,)

(there's only one possible person!)


Sound: Gavel

Mr. Wright. Does such a witness exist?

We get the same lead-in to the witness selection from there; free to pick the correct answer this time.

Music: Trial





This court is now in re-


Sound: Realization

Huh?


Sound: Drama Pound

Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone?

Listen good, Lana!
Sound: Objection

(He's talking to Lana!)



there will be terrible consequences.
Sound: Realization

...!
Sound: Light Bulb

That's right...


Sound: Guilty

I guess we're just letting murderers openly threaten witnesses in court now.

Ah!
Sound: Light Bulb

(This isn't good!)
Sound: Stab 2



Just something to think about...

Music: Silence

All right, then.
Sound: Light Bulb

I've got a lunch date to meet.
Sound: Whack



Even the judge can't believe what he just saw there.

...

Okay. If there aren't any further objections...
Sound: Light Bulb

this court is now in recess!





Music: Courtroom Lobby ~ Beginning Overture



Yeah. Thanks to your help, Edgeworth.



Detective Gumshoe!
Sound: Light Bulb

Ha ha ha.

I'm not a "detective" anymore.

Oh yeah. Sorry about that...
Sound: Stab



Music: Silence

At your office!
Sound: Damage 2

My office...?
Sound: Light Bulb

Sure!


Sound: Objection

I'm in. Gumshoe is chicken soup for the soul.


Sound: Realization

Music: Courtroom Lobby ~ Beginning Overture

Still...

Looks like we're all out of moves now.


Sound: Objection

It's not fair he has the right to refuse to testify!
Sound: Whack

Hmph.

Settle down, Wright.

Remember what the judge said?


Sound: Wipe



There are certain risks to be considered!
Sound: Realization



"Risks"... What did he mean by that?

It's simple.



the opposite also holds true.


Sound: Realization

Kind of a like the Fifth Amendment in the US. If you "plead the fifth" to avoid incriminating yourself, you also lose the right to speak in your defense. Wait, who was speaking there?



Music: Ema Skye ~ Turnabout Sisters Theme

Ema! Are you okay?
Sound: Light Bulb



I've been listening to the trial from the gallery.

(So she heard everything that's been going on.)

Um, Ema... I'm sorry for what I said before.

No, don't be. It was the truth.



She finally knows why her sister has been acting so strange the last two years.

"Relieved"?

Yeah...

Now I finally know what really happened.
Sound: Realization

To think that all this time...



And she did it all...

just to protect me.



everyone who knew her...

said she changed.

Perhaps...

it was easier that way for her.

What do you mean?



She must have shut herself up deep inside...



(That must be why she became so cold...)

It was all my fault.



Hey. Don't go blaming yourself now.
Sound: Whack

If you want to blame anyone, blame society, pal!
Sound: Whack





I... I see.


Sound: Light Bulb

Music: Silence

Ema, why don't you wait h-


Sound: Realization

!
Sound: Light Bulb

I want to be there...

when Lana tells the truth.







I guess it makes sense, but I wasn't expecting a separate chapter here.

Music: Jingle - It Can't End Here



So I guess Gant won't be testifying again. Will this episode be the first time we "convict" the murderer with someone else on the stand?

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Rythian
Dec 31, 2007

You take what comes, and the rest is void.





Here we go! It's been a long long case, but man it really starts firing on all cylinders towards the end.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
Edgeworth speaking like the voice of experience, huh

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
what still bothers me is that Japanifornia doesn't seem to have "self-defense", or "accidents", or "she was fourteen" how is this murder??? "Accidental murder is still murder" no it loving isn't that's what manslaughter is for.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

YggiDee posted:

what still bothers me is that Japanifornia doesn't seem to have "self-defense", or "accidents", or "she was fourteen" how is this murder??? "Accidental murder is still murder" no it loving isn't that's what manslaughter is for.

To be fair, the odds of Ema actually getting punished in this situation are basically zero. They do take that sort of thing into account, and it's worth noting that the trials we go through just get our client considered "Not Guilty" for the crime that they are specifically on trial for. Follow-up trials and sentencing are outside of our purview.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I've just been assuming that it does and the children aren't actually at risk of getting the death penalty for the crime of attempting to protect someone and causing an accidental death in the process, and the game just glosses over it instead of Phoenix expressing concern over the trauma and stigma they'd be inviting onto themselves.

though on the other hand, both von Karma and Gant are vindictive, corrupt sons of bitches, and maybe they do have a way to legally murder children for daring to cross them :shrug:

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻




That got a chuckle outta me.

Tree Reformat
Apr 2, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
I imagine even if she technically gets off easy by the legal system itself, Ema being found guilty of murder (manslaughter is still murder, just the "least bad" kind, is my understanding) would mean severe social consequences.

Remember how Yanni Yogi was found innocent by way of insanity, but it still effectively destroyed his life due to sheer social stigma? Ema might be facing the same kind of fate even if her actual sentencing is light.

GilliamYaeger
Jan 10, 2012

Call Gespenst!

Tree Reformat posted:

I imagine even if she technically gets off easy by the legal system itself, Ema being found guilty of murder (manslaughter is still murder, just the "least bad" kind, is my understanding) would mean severe social consequences.

Remember how Yanni Yogi was found innocent by way of insanity, but it still effectively destroyed his life due to sheer social stigma? Ema might be facing the same kind of fate even if her actual sentencing is light.
She probably wouldn't be able to fulfil her dream of being a crime scene investigator, at the very least.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Tree Reformat posted:

I imagine even if she technically gets off easy by the legal system itself, Ema being found guilty of murder (manslaughter is still murder, just the "least bad" kind, is my understanding) would mean severe social consequences.

Remember how Yanni Yogi was found innocent by way of insanity, but it still effectively destroyed his life due to sheer social stigma? Ema might be facing the same kind of fate even if her actual sentencing is light.

Especially with her sister and the chief of police covering it up and then doing a murder* two years later to keep covering it up.

*Last one is Gant but details

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
Gumshoe would be the best co-worker.

(Not a subordinate though, I don't want him actually handling things I need to get done.)

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

Tree Reformat posted:

I imagine even if she technically gets off easy by the legal system itself, Ema being found guilty of murder (manslaughter is still murder, just the "least bad" kind, is my understanding) would mean severe social consequences.

Remember how Yanni Yogi was found innocent by way of insanity, but it still effectively destroyed his life due to sheer social stigma? Ema might be facing the same kind of fate even if her actual sentencing is light.

To be fair, Yanni was an adult, and he was a security guard that was there to help protect people. And the insanity plea does mean that he admits to the murder. So now you have a former armed guard who went insane and murdered someone he was supposed to protect. That's a whole different level of stigma, and it's hardly surprising that he would have major consequences after that.

Ema has many mitigating factors in her favor. Lana doing crimes is probably worse for her than the murder thing.

Blastinus
Feb 28, 2010

Time to try my luck
:rolldice:
Crap.

ApplesandOranges posted:

Gumshoe would be the best co-worker.

(Not a subordinate though, I don't want him actually handling things I need to get done.)

Ah, come on, it'll be perfect! He can be the Paul Drake to our Perry Mason.

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

Tree Reformat posted:

I imagine even if she technically gets off easy by the legal system itself, Ema being found guilty of murder (manslaughter is still murder, just the "least bad" kind, is my understanding) would mean severe social consequences.

Remember how Yanni Yogi was found innocent by way of insanity, but it still effectively destroyed his life due to sheer social stigma? Ema might be facing the same kind of fate even if her actual sentencing is light.

Manslaughter isn't murder. Could be considered wrongful death but that's not the same thing as murder.

On topic, present Lana's written confession

Edit: Tree Reformat, you might actually be thinking of manslaughter being homicide. It is definitely homicide but again, that's not the same thing. All murders are homicides but not all homicides are murders. Murder requires intent

...! fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Jan 28, 2024

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Also, laws tend to weigh intent heavily. In places not japanifornia, you're probably not going to jail if you interfere in a fight trying to save someone's life, and they die as a result instead. The only real thing that could trip you up is if you did so by some crazy pants means that any sane person would have noted as lethal to them, like running over the knife fight with a truck.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

FoolyCharged posted:

running over the knife fight with a truck.

Ah, the Maya Fey approach. :v:

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 160: Episode 5, Final Day, Trial Latter 2: Falling on a Sword

Yes, the name of this new segment is "Trial Latter 2."

Music: Silence




Sound: Gallery


Sound: Gavel

Music: Trial

Now then...







Ms. Lana Skye. You are the Chief Prosecutor.



But Mr. Edgeworth...

you already know everything...



...

Please provide the court with your testimony, Ms. Skye.



:xd: Fat chance of that.

Of course...

The truth...


Sound: Light Bulb

...


Sound: Gavel

Now then, your testimony, if you will.



(Everything hinges on your testimony.)



Music: Silence




Sound: Testimony 2

Music: Questioning - Moderato

I worked alongside Gant for years...



I fabricated the evidence two years ago all by myself.


Sound: Wipe







Music: Silence



Wow. So many lies in there. She's just going for it.

Hmm...

Are you sure about this testimony?



Subtle sprite change with the shift to the side-eye look for the last sentence.

But Lana...!
Sound: Light Bulb




Sound: Realization

That's what I've been telling you from the beginning.


Sound: Whack

(But what if she's telling the truth?)
Sound: Light Bulb

She's not. I know my own sister.

Ema responding directly to Phoenix's thoughts again...



Deep down, she's really screaming in agony!

...!
Sound: Light Bulb





The defense may now begin its cross-examination.




Sound: Testimony 2

Music: Questioning - Moderato

Mr. Wright! My sister's lying!
Sound: Whack



She insists she fabricated the evidence by herself.


Sound: Whack

(I've got to get Lana to talk more.)





I worked alongside Gant for years...



How many years, exactly?

Ever since I made senior detective.



Senior detective at 24? After law school?

Detective Gant and Detective Skye were legendary partners.

I personally saw them testify in numerous cases.



Damon Gant was a respectable detective. That's why...



There's no truth to this "blackmail" theory.




Sound: Desk Slam

But think about it, Ms. Skye!

You didn't murder Detective Goodman!


Sound: Objection

You still don't get it,

do you Mr. Wright?





...!

I stabbed Detective Goodman with a knife.



And...



I fabricated the evidence two years ago all by myself.



Did you do so to help your sister?

Joe Darke was a serial killer.



I didn't want that incident to ruin her life.


Sound: Desk Slam

But what she did was justifiable self-defense!



That's not the point.



That's why I couldn't forgive him.

Lana...





When I found Prosecutor Marshall's body, I rearranged the crime scene.



You say you did this all by yourself?

Yes.



...

Music: Silence

It seems I was the first person to discover the scene.



Music: Recollection ~ The SL-9 Incident


Sound: Realization

So Neil Marshall somehow got stabbed in the back with his own blunted knife? You're going to need a better story than that, Lana.


Sound: Desk Slam

What!?


Sound: Wipe



That's only a situation you dreamed was "possible."

...!
Sound: Light Bulb









Something like that...

If that is so,

what happened to the other murder weapon?
Sound: Realization



Oh,
Sound: Light Bulb

that was lying on the floor a little distance away.

It was probably knocked away in the struggle.



Mid-blink / angry Phoenix, you decide.

All just to protect me...

Music: Silence


Sound: Gavel

So when you found the scene like this,

what did you do?



Music: Questioning - Moderato

Yes...





I was so busy pressing on everything, I don't think I even realized this one was a new statement at first. It replaced the one we just pressed on; we of course are just going to press again.



Music: Silence


Sound: Stab 2

Well, that's one way it could have happened, I guess?

And then you moved the body?
Sound: Stab 2


Sound: Desk Slam

But why!? Why would you do that...?

Music: Questioning - Moderato



You've always had a good head on your shoulders.

...!



Hmm, both seem like good questions. I guess I'll start at the top.

But why did you do that!?
Sound: Whack



...


Sound: Gavel



The reason Ms. Skye fabricated the knife!





We get another new statement, though this one doesn't replace the previous one. It's just an extra insertion. We know what to do with new statements.



According to your testimony,





Kind of a weak explanation. How else would Neil Marshall have ended up with his own knife in his back?

I felt the most effective way to get him convicted,
Sound: Realization



That one feels like a true statement, at least. It makes more sense that they broke the tip off on purpose as additional evidence, than that it naturally broke off when planting Darke's knife in there.

So you...



Yes.

Because I hated Darke for what he did.

Hmm...





Now, if we go back and press on the previous statement again, we get back to this same choice and can go with the other option this time.



It was where you deduced it was - by Chief Gant's desk.

But the body was found by your desk.


Sound: Wipe



The reason for that is simple...


Sound: Gavel



The reason Ms. Skye moved the body!





We earn yet another new statement; this time it replaces the one talking about why she planted the knife, that we got in the other dialogue decision. An interesting mechanic here - two mutually exclusive statements, that can only be seen by making a choice during a press on a statement that itself can only be seen by pressing on the statement before that!



"Pieces of the jar..." You mean...?



In order to show that Darke committed the crime...



So...

when you first found the body, the jar was already...

Of course. It had been shattered to pieces.


Sound: Realization


Sound: Wipe



It would be clear that you're lying about what happened, you mean? I don't get what her angle is here.





Maybe she's arguing that Darke could have been seen as accidentally killing Neil Marshall, and they wouldn't be able to convict Darke of actual murder and execute him?



I see.

...

What's the matter, Ema?
Sound: Realization

Music: Silence



But I have a feeling there is more to it than that.

Music: Questioning - Moderato



Anyway, I committed this fabrication completely alone.



My only motivation was to get Darke convicted. It had nothing to do with Ema.



So you rearranged the crime scene...



How many times do I have to tell you, Mr. Wright?

Ema didn't do it.

Period.

(Are you so desperate to hide that fact...)





Yes, we all know that. Except maybe the judge.

In any case...



There's nothing I can do to make up for my actions.

That might be the first true thing she's said today.



The sudden music stop and blatant hints from Ema make it clear that this statement has the contradiction. I've openly commented about the timeline of this jar's shattering before, but it's come to the forefront here. How could Neil Marshall have written Ema's name in his blood on the jar, if it had already been shattered?

Music: Silence



Ms. Skye, I understand how you feel.





If that truth were to be exposed now,

the past two years of your life


Sound: Desk Slam



a significant contradiction within your testimony!
Sound: Objection

Music: Investigation - Core

A contradiction... in my testimony?
Sound: Light Bulb

You testified, and I quote,



That's right...

Do you have a problem with that?

It's a simple oversight, really.






Sound: Realization

!
Sound: Light Bulb

In order for the victim to be able to write his message on the jar,



Ah...
Sound: Light Bulb


Sound: Desk Slam

Music: Silence


Sound: Objection


Sound: Gallery


Sound: Gavel

Order! Order!

Your Honor! It would appear...



We may be missing something critical here!

(Something critical...?)
Sound: Realization

Chief Prosecutor.



about the truth towards which we're headed.

What...?
Sound: Light Bulb

Just tell us exactly what you saw.




Sound: Gavel

Very well! The witness may now continue her testimony!

...




Sound: Testimony 2

Music: Questioning - Moderato

I immediately noticed the blood traces on the jar,



To be safe,

I wiped away the blood.

The fragments were large, so I'm sure I got them all.



Music: Silence



Huh. That sounded almost like she was telling the truth. Which means... Gant got to the office first after all? And smashed the jar himself, then hid a piece in his safe as blackmail material? Or maybe Neil smashed the jar and hid a piece before he died?


Sound: Whack

Well, yeah, she said she did all the evidence tampering/forgery.

I wasn't Chief Prosecutor at the time.

She didn't think Darke was the real murderer.


Sound: Realization


Sound: Gavel

Very well. The defense may now begin its cross-examination.




Sound: Testimony 2



Your sister's really putting up a fight.


Sound: Realization

Still, she's not doing this the right way...

...!



You have? Are you going to share them with us?



I guess Phoenix is ahead of me this time.



I immediately noticed the blood traces on the jar,



So the jar was already broken?



It certainly looks as feeble as the defense's case...
Sound: Realization

(But not as feeble as the judge's judgment...)
Sound: Realization

Snarky comments aside, there's something there in Lana's statement. If Ema's picture of the Blue Badger really was the jar flying through the air, how did it not shatter into pieces at that point? Had Neil already been stabbed and written out his message before that happened? Did it have a "soft" landing on Darke's head, knocking him out?



you didn't investigate what was written on the jar pieces?

Normally I would have,



but it was dark in the room and I didn't have time to check it out.





No. If I had known...


Sound: Realization

Okay, surprisingly good point there.

(Well, that helps my case...)

Lana... you'd do that for me?
Sound: Light Bulb

It seems you two might make up yet.





You must have been in a hurry.

I was.





This is rather shocking...



To be safe, I wiped away the blood.





What do you mean?
Sound: Light Bulb

If you really thought Darke killed Prosecutor Marshall,


Sound: Realization

...



Lana...

I only had a few moments.





The fragments were large, so I'm sure I got them all.



But how could you see with the power out?

It should have been pitch black in that office.

A detective is always prepared, Mr. Wright.




Sound: Light Bulb

I never miss anything. I got every last piece.

She seems very sure. And yet we know one piece didn't get wiped. So Gant must've hidden it away first?



All I could think about was wiping them clean before they were discovered.



So you illegally rearranged the crime scene?

Yes. I don't have any excuse for my actions.



I've treated you so badly all this time...

(It's not too late.)

(There's still plenty of time to make up...)



They might have to make up through the detention center glass window at the rate Lana is going.







Well, that's all we have. It seems pretty clear to me what's wrong with this testimony, but what evidence proves the contradiction?

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

We're a rather startling 160 updates into this game now; I really did not know what I was getting into. Good news, though - I'll be updating three times a week from here on out.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
Lotta people burn out doing PW games, yeah. I'm so glad you seem to still be enjoying yourself, though.

Tree Reformat
Apr 2, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

DKII posted:

We're a rather startling 160 updates into this game now; I really did not know what I was getting into. Good news, though - I'll be updating three times a week from here on out.

The good news is that this is the longest case in the series, and I believe that makes this the longest game as well.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



It's damned impressive what you've been doing with this, re. no. of updates and juggling screenshots.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)
Yeah, this is nothing short of a commendably herculean effort. I hope you continue having as much fun as the games progress.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
Absolutely, not just showing the full playthrough but even dialogue for possible mistakes, alternate options, it's incredible. But this case really tests your resolve to do an LP like this, it's very much appreciated.

I remember thinking at this point, Lana can drop the act, the dark secret about Ema is out! But I guess Gant could still make Ema's life plenty difficult by dragging out the old case.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
I mean, there's still a difference between Phoenix personally convincing Ema that she did it, and a court of law recognizing and ruling that she did it, even if the latter doesn't result in further legal consequences for her. Lana still has reason to deny everything, even if Ema doesn't believe her.

Doobeedoo
Oct 6, 2013

Trees and plants tend to grow on this Pokemon's back because it moves so little. It loves eating food while playing with tiny Pokemon.

MarquiseMindfang posted:

Yeah, this is nothing short of a commendably herculean effort. I hope you continue having as much fun as the games progress.

+1!

But yeah, seriously, I am so impressed by this LP. It's a blast to read.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 161: Episode 5, Final Day, Trial Latter 2: Traps within Traps



Seriously, though, how many times have we presented this drat jar now?



Anyway, despite Lana's statements, it's pretty clear that one piece - the one we found in Gant's safe - wasn't wiped clean. We can actually present the jar on any of Lana's last three statements.

Music: Silence





What?



In the Chief's safe?
Sound: Realization

But how...?

(I knew it! She really didn't know!)

I guess she wasn't paying attention in the last part of the trial.




Sound: Wipe


Sound: Realization

Music: Suspense

But the witness just testified...
Sound: Whack



Yes, which leaves us with only one explanation.


Sound: Desk Slam

On the night Prosecutor Marshall was murdered...

Music: Silence


Sound: Drama Pound


Sound: Objection

This case has me all tied up in knots. I need to stop believing the serial liars.

Music: Objection!


Sound: Gallery


Sound: Gavel x 3

But couldn't the defendant have simply missed a piece?
Sound: Whack




Sound: Desk Slam

I'm afraid that's unlikely.


Sound: Objection

That may well be, but everyone makes mistakes. Even I once wasted an entire day
Sound: Whack






Sound: Desk Slam

Have you forgotten, Your Honor?


Sound: Realization

Oh, that...
Sound: Light Bulb

There's no way a name could have been written on a shattered jar.


Sound: Objection

I hope you're not implying this "person" was Chief Gant. At the time, he was looking






Sound: Desk Slam



...
Sound: Light Bulb


Sound: Desk Slam

Music: Silence


Sound: Objection




Sound: Damage 2
Sound: Drama Pound

The judge freakout using just his normal head shake sprites... :bravo:


Sound: Gallery




Sound: Realization

Okay, favorite sequence of the game right there.


Sound: Realization




Sound: Realization

Question:

What is this action called?

Fabrication of evidence.

More like hiding of evidence, but okay.

Music: Investigation - Core


Sound: Stab

In light of what happened afterwards,

isn't it clear?

What happened afterwards...?



The jar was already in pieces when Lana found it; did she still know it said "Ema" on it? Otherwise I'm not sure why she would think Ema had killed Marshall, rather than Darke having shoved him into the armor's sword. Ema and Darke were both unconscious. Maybe Marshall was still alive, and told Lana?

Determined to help her sister,

she sought Gant's aid.





sparing Ema. And therein lies the reason!
Sound: Drama Pound


Sound: Objection


Sound: Stab 2

Hell Lana just bit her thumb so hard she spurted out blood.

N-no... I... I did it on my own...
Sound: Desk Slam


Sound: Whack

I...

I can't watch you suffer any more for my sake...
Sound: Desk Slam


Sound: Objection

Don't believe anything Mr. Wright says!


Sound: Drama Pound


Sound: Realization





Slander! We are paragons of truth!

...

!
Sound: Light Bulb

(Wait a minute...)

Music: Silence




Sound: Wipe


Sound: Guilty

Huh?

Is something wrong, Mr. Wright?

Lana...

may be right after all.
Sound: Realization

! What do you mean, Wright?
Sound: Light Bulb


Sound: Light Bulb


Sound: Desk Slam

Ms. Skye! Please testify once more!

But...



then Ema's accidental killing of Prosecutor Marshall...


Sound: Drama Pound

Oh! Wait a minute, that's right! If Gant got in there ahead of Lana, who knows what he messed with! Hey, maybe the parallel to Mia's killing is even more exact than I thought, and Gant actually faked Ema's name on the jar, too! Maybe Gant even killed Marshall himself, like I originally thought! This episode is so twisty with its fakeouts!

Music: Suspense

B-but,
Sound: Light Bulb

I do remember knocking over Mr. Marshall...

Ms. Skye! If you will...
Sound: Whack



There's nothing to be afraid of anymore.
Sound: Realization

...!

This cross-examination may not change a thing.


Sound: Desk Slam



... Very well.

I'll testify...
Sound: Realization

Music: Silence

about what I really saw.


Sound: Gavel






Sound: Testimony 2

Music: Questioning - Allegro

When I arrived,

I found Mr. Marshall's body impaled on that suit of armor's sword.







That's why I erased all the evidence that linked her to the murder.



But if it all really was a fabrication,

Ema might be innocent!
Sound: Desk Slam

Music: Silence



I don't see anything there, unfortunately. Maybe pressing will reveal something.



Unbelievable!

The body was impaled on the armor's sword?



...

Actually,

I do have proof.
Sound: Realization

!
Sound: Light Bulb



Lana you devil.

What?
Sound: Light Bulb

To me!?



I thought it might be needed.


Sound: Whack

Lana must have known...




Sound: Gavel

Music: Logic and Trick



(I don't remember receiving any pictures from Lana...)



I seem to remember getting something from her then...

Let's check that evidence again!
Sound: Light Bulb





The game cheats hard here. We're forced into the Court Record, but without the option to present anything. Instead, we have to look at this book Lana gave to us via Gumshoe earlier.



Outside of this special prompt, looking closer at the book just shows the same page of text as when we first got it. Now, though, we can physically examine the book.



Our cursor lights up on the back...


Sound: Realization

Well looky there.




Sound: Realization





One fact immediately jumps out - Neil Marshall's vest is indeed missing part of it, around the same size as the piece of cloth we found earlier with Ema's handprint. Neil also has blood all along his front, likely coughed up from being stabbed in the lung. Now, notice how the blood is present on his shirt, behind the hole in his vest? (There was also no blood on the piece of cloth we found, despite a well-preserved handprint.) Wouldn't that mean he coughed up the blood after Gant had cut out that part of his vest? Meaning, Neil Marshall was still alive when Gant was in the room?

Music: Suspense

Oh... Oh my...
Sound: Realization


Sound: Light Bulb

No other detective saw the crime scene like this...




Sound: Select Jingle

You know, Lana, this day would have been a lot faster if you'd led with this information at the beginning. Ah well.

*gasp* Mr. Wright!
Sound: Light Bulb



(The cloth we found inside Chief Gant's safe!)
Sound: Realization


Sound: Wipe


Sound: Realization









Whosever fingerprints those are must be

the real murderer!

(What!? But those fingerprints...)

Music: Silence

(They're yours, Ema!)




Sound: Desk Slam

Anyway, let's get on with the cross-examination.




Sound: Gavel

Very well. The defense may now begin its cross-examination.




Sound: Testimony 2

Music: Questioning - Allegro


Sound: Objection

To be clear, that was not an unusually quick press by me.


Sound: Shock 2 x 3


Sound: Wipe


Sound: Drama Pound

quote:

Fun fact - I went back and tried pressing or presenting on that first statement of Lana's cross before the interruption, but the game didn't allow the input. It's a fake cross!

Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone?

Come now, Udgey.



Chief Gant...
Sound: Realization

What, now you want to make me out as the bad guy too?





I'm afraid it's too late for that.

What?

You already declined to testify.


Sound: Realization

...

(This must be that "risk" we were talking about earlier...)

Just sit back, relax...



:allears: This system needs a magnificant rear end in a top hat like Edgeworth to fight against it.

Music: Silence


Sound: Damage 2

...Boss phase 2 complete?

...

Ah, so what?
Sound: Realization

You think I'm worried?

...!
Sound: Light Bulb

Sorry to disappoint you,


Sound: Realization

Music: Suspense

What do you mean?

The evidence will do all the talking for me.



Yes, that's true...

Wait! You mean...
Sound: Light Bulb



No, I don't.
Sound: Whack
Sound: Clapping

But someone does.

"Someone"...?
Sound: Realization



Ah, Gant probably thinks he has us pretty well-trapped now. But his trap is just going to be the very thing that proves him guilty.

...!

Why have you been keeping quiet about it?

You do have something to show us, right?



Conclusive evidence that leaves no room for doubt!
Sound: Drama Pound

I-is this true, Mr. Wright!?
Sound: Whack

...




Sound: Wipe



I think I'm ahead of Phoenix for once. We'll have to let this one play out.


Sound: Gavel


Sound: Whack



(What do I do now!?)



(Should I present that piece of evidence?)



I'm not even going to pretend I don't know what evidence he's talking about. But is now the right time to show it?

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
Get off the drat stand Gant! :mad:

Blastinus
Feb 28, 2010

Time to try my luck
:rolldice:
Crap.
I wish they had given the Judge a full-on breakdown animation. That would have been great.

DKII
Oct 21, 2010

Part 162: Episode 5, Final Day, Trial Latter 2: Perfect Timing



So the Nay's have it. But why?



Well, let's hold back on this one.

Your Honor,

Music: Silence

I don't have any evidence I can present at this point in time.
Sound: Realization

What!? You lie!
Sound: Damage 2
Sound: Whack

Chief Gant?



The conclusive evidence!
Sound: Objection




Sound: Realization

Music: Investigation - Core

Mr. Wright! Why don't you show them?

We found it together!

Oh, I see. It's because you know the truth, don't you?
Sound: Light Bulb




Sound: Desk Slam

What are you talking about,

Chief Gant!?
Sound: Whack




Sound: Wipe



It looks like part of it's been cut out for some reason.
Sound: Realization

You mean, you had this...?
Sound: Light Bulb

In your safe?


Sound: Stab

have been concealing evidence!


Sound: Drama Pound


Sound: Gallery

...

Music: Silence

Impressive...


Sound: Realization

...!
Sound: Light Bulb

Well,

I can't just let you pin me up as the murderer.


Sound: Whack
Sound: Clapping

Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone?

What!? You mean

you admit to it!?







It then occurred to me that

I could use the situation to control Lana.



I knew Lana.

If I made it look like the blame lay with her sister...


Sound: Realization

So you "assisted" Ms. Skye!

I told her to arrange all the evidence.




Sound: Drama Pound

When I tampered with the crime scene,

I hid two pieces of evidence.
Sound: Light Bulb

This was before Lana arrived at the scene, mind you.


Sound: Objection

But... why?
Sound: Whack

For insurance,

of course.
Sound: Realization

"Insurance"...?





You mean you were calculating that far ahead

while forging the evidence!?
Sound: Whack



See this jar fragment?


Sound: Realization


Sound: Realization




Sound: Desk Slam

But if you fabricated all the evidence...
Sound: Whack

Music: Silence


Sound: Objection
Sound: Drama Pound + Objection

Ho ho ho...



That's why I kept one more item for "insurance."


Sound: Realization


Sound: Light Bulb

Music: Suspense

...

What are you waiting for, Mr. Wright?

So you admit to it then, Chief Gant?





but it's a lot better than

being portrayed as a murderer!
Sound: Realization

Got you. Everyone catch what happened there?


Sound: Gavel

Well, Mr. Wright?

What do you have to say for yourself?


Sound: Light Bulb



(It's been a long battle...)


Sound: Wipe





Penalty here, and I animated it so you could see what it looks like more clearly. Anyway, now is the right time to show the strip of cloth. Gant has admitted to being the one to cut it away from Neil Marshall and hide it in his safe. We're going to look bad at first, but Gant won't be able to escape what's coming.



quote:

If we instead decline to show our evidence a second time...

(No! It's too late to show the evidence now!)
Sound: Stab

(Besides, even if I did...)

(it'd just expose that poor girl's fingerprints!)

Wright. Think hard over the circumstances.

The circumstances...?

I'm talking about "then" and "now."

There's one major difference between the two.

Weren't you waiting for that difference?
Sound: Realization

...! (So...)
Sound: Light Bulb

(Edgeworth figured out my plan!)
Sound: Damage 2

Weird penalty timing on that one.

Mr. Wright! This is your only chance!

Your Honor,

I do have evidence to present now.

We actually continue from here just as if we'd agreed to show our evidence on that second prompt.


Sound: Gavel

All right then, let's see this "conclusive" evidence!





Hang on everyone, it's going to be okay.




Sound: Desk Slam

Music: Silence

Let me verify this once more.

On the day of the crime,



Oh, yes!
Sound: Light Bulb
Sound: Clapping

At least you've finally brought it out into the open.

There's a handprint on this piece of cloth!
Sound: Realization


Sound: Desk Slam



This handprint on the leather...


Sound: Objection

!
Sound: Light Bulb

You mean...


Sound: Objection

quote:

Getting the evidence wrong here...



...

Mr. Edgeworth? Your opinion, please?

Music: Silence

I think Mr. Wright's humor has improved... at the expense of his defense.
Sound: Realization

Better polish up your defense, Mr. Wright!
Sound: Damage 2

A more traditional penalty there.

Come on, Mr. Wright!

You remember that thing with the murderer's handprint on it, don't you?


Sound: Gavel

Music: Suspense

There's no way around it, Mr. Wright. Now, let's try this one more time.

...

Your Honor,

I do have evidence to present now.

We go back to the judge asking for our "conclusive" evidence from there, with another chance to get it right.

Music: Telling the Truth


Sound: Gallery

Ho ho ho...

You're as slow on the uptake as ever, Worthy!

What?




Sound: Realization

...! You mean you already know?
Sound: Light Bulb



M-Mr. Wright... Do you really know?
Sound: Light Bulb


Sound: Gavel



Whose fingerprints are they!?



Very well. I'll tell you.


Sound: Wipe



Penalty on this choice, but you haven't really forgotten, have you?



This whole setup stinks, but we have to bait Gant even further here.



Ema?

Ema Skye!?
Sound: Objection

quote:

I tried claiming the prints belonged to Gant, but no luck...



(No, it's no use lying here.)
Sound: Stab

(They'll discover the truth the second they analyze this.)
Sound: Damage 2

Phoenix gave himself the penalty there.

What's the matter, Wrighto?
Sound: Realization

Hurry up and tell us!


Sound: Gavel

You do know,

don't you, Mr. Wright?

Whoever the fingerprints belong to must be the real murderer!

And we get the same lead-in to picking out the owner of the fingerprints from there.

Music: Silence


Sound: Stab 2

I'm sorry, Ema...

But why...


Sound: Drama Pound

Because it's more dramatic this way!


Sound: Gallery


Sound: Gavel x 3

Oh ho ho ho!
Sound: Damage 2 + Clapping
Sound: Whack + Desk Slam

Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone?

You're really something, Wrighto!


Sound: Whack

and you still tried to pin the murder on me!
Sound: Realization

So it's true. Tragic, but true.




Sound: Objection


Sound: Drama Pound

Ms. Skye...



you acted like she really didn't...



Ms. Skye.

It's not over yet...

What!?
Sound: Light Bulb

I said this trial isn't over yet.


Sound: Whack

but your career too!

...



That, my friend,

is a serious offense.

...



I'll have your badge, boy!
Sound: Whack + Clapping

...


Sound: Realization

Aren't you going to tell us how it feels?



...

Music: Silence

Before I do that...

there's just one little thing I have to clear up.

Oh? And what's that?


Sound: Realization

What!?
Sound: Light Bulb

Chief Gant, you are absolutely right.



It was Ema Skye, wasn't it?
Sound: Whack



I'm afraid that's not possible.


Sound: Realization

quote:

Before we spring our trap on Gant, let's go all the way back to the start of this update. What if we'd just shown our evidence from the very beginning? At first, I thought it'd just shortcut and skip ahead to the same place, but... well, you'll see.

Yes, Your Honor. I do have further evidence.

All right! The time's finally come to show it to them!
Sound: Light Bulb

Those prints have got to be

the Chief's!

Yeah, that's what I thought when we first found it, too...


Sound: Gavel

Now then, let's see this "conclusive" evidence!

The evidence that shows who actually murdered Prosecutor Marshall!

We get another evidence prompt here, and present the strip of cloth...



It's...

a piece of leather cloth?

Yes. It most likely was cut from the victim's vest, near his chest.

We see Lana's picture here, showing the crime scene and the hacked-up vest.

What's this!?
Sound: Whack


Sound: Wipe

Music: Silence

There's a big handprint on it!
Sound: Drama Pound

Here we see a close-up of the cloth with the handprint...

Surely it must have been left on the cloth by

whoever shoved the victim into the sword.
Sound: Realization

What? Whose fingerprints are on this!?
Sound: Whack

I'm sure Wrighto has checked,

haven't you?

...!

Well? Whose are they!?
Sound: Whack

...

...

...They're Ms. Skye's. Ms. Ema Skye's.
Sound: Realization

What!?
Sound: Light Bulb

They're mine...?

So I really did do it...

See? I told you it was

conclusive.
Sound: Realization

Music: Damon Gant ~ Swimming, Anyone?




Sound: Desk Slam

But this was found in your safe!

That means it's possible you forged it!

I don't know what you're talking about.
Sound: Realization

!
Sound: Light Bulb

I don't remember any cloth in my safe.

Do you really expect me

to believe that?
Sound: Realization




Sound: Desk Slam

But...!


Sound: Desk Slam

Music: Silence

Give it up, Mr. Wright. It's over.

!
Sound: Light Bulb

You shouldn't have presented that...

By presenting that evidence,

you tied Ema Skye to Neil Marshall's death.
Sound: Realization

No...

It appears we have our killer.

NNNO...

NOOOOOO!!!
Sound: Drama Pound

The last line is shown in front of a silent gallery...








Sound: Guilty x 6


Sound: Guilty

Guilt trap! Presenting the cloth too early = instant game over! Now, compare that with how presenting the cloth goes with Gant having admitted to cutting it off and hiding it in his safe...

quote:

Presenting something other than the strip of cloth here is actually a way to change our mind...



Music: Silence

(No... I can't! I can't show them that yet!)
Sound: Stab

Why not? You know which item to show!
Sound: Whack

Mr. Wright.

If you're not sure,

then think it through again...

How can you use that evidence

to your advantage?
Sound: Realization

Music: Suspense

(What do I do now!?)

From there we repeat Phoenix's self-debate leading back into the first decision on whether or not to show the evidence, and we're back at the start of the update. No penalty for getting cold feet here...

Music: Suspense


Sound: Stab 2

What is this fool babbling about!?


Sound: Desk Slam



who the real killer is!
Sound: Drama Pound


Sound: Gallery


Sound: Gavel x 3

M-Mr. Wright! This piece of cloth...


Sound: Whack

(Chief Gant, your tyrannical reign ends here!)



It's (I assume) the final phase of the final boss of the game. What's our finishing move?

bladeworksmaster
Sep 6, 2010

Ok.

:allears: Oh man this final sequence. For all its faults, this is why Rise from the Ashes is so iconic for many.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

The blue Badger panel's reign of mayhem ends now.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

And yeah, for as slow a start as this last case has, when it starts moving, boy does it move.

Marluxia
May 8, 2008


He wanted our badge so badly, didn't he? Well he can have it!

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

bladeworksmaster posted:

:allears: Oh man this final sequence. For all its faults, this is why Rise from the Ashes is so iconic for many.

Yup. Taking down Von Karma with a parrot was great and all but the end of this case is legendary.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Gant tricking you into a game over is some good stuff, even if Phoenix kind of telegraphs a bit too hard what's going to happen beforehand.



Then again, I suppose that's for the best if the player hasn't saved in a while.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


FoolyCharged posted:

And yeah, for as slow a start as this last case has, when it starts moving, boy does it move.

Exactly this. Rise From the Ashes is like a symphony - you need to sit through the quiet bits at first, but oh boy can it get loud.

Truthkeeper
Nov 29, 2010

Friends don't let friends borrow on credit.
I could swear we already determined that Gant isn't allowed to talk anymore after invoking his right to refuse to testify. So why the gently caress is he still up there talking?

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Truthkeeper posted:

I could swear we already determined that Gant isn't allowed to talk anymore after invoking his right to refuse to testify. So why the gently caress is he still up there talking?

He just barged in and started running his mouth, basically. And the judge is too stunned to kick him out.

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Gosts
Jan 15, 2016


Marluxia posted:

He wanted our badge so badly, didn't he? Well he can have it!

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