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Theres been a lot of talk in the Special Military Operation thread about the various wargames and strategy games our resident war nerds enjoy. So lets post about them. I like strategy games, I don't really know or play the crazy poo poo the guys in the other thread were talking about, other than trying and bouncing off HOI4 the last time it went on sale. Really want the USSR DLC despite that fact. I'll spruce up the OP with hashtag good content in time.
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I guess we could also talk about cardboard wargames here too
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Jul 13, 2022 22:15
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me irl
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Jul 13, 2022 22:17
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https://twitter.com/SebastianBae/status/1547301586082230272 i think their twitter had something on a squad level tactics game too that emphasized double blind and vague unknown positions but i looked at it on my phone and can't find it again.
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Jul 13, 2022 22:18
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i say swears online posted:me irl what did you do to your jewish population op? have you been posting in dnd?
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Jul 13, 2022 22:18
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I've been been playing HOI4 as Spain, transitioning to communism to beat nationalist Spain, and then to anarchism once they're beat, and trying to kick off an anarchist revolution in the rest of Europe
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Jul 13, 2022 22:19
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Southpaugh posted:I guess we could also talk about cardboard wargames here too how deep in the CIA is Volko Ruhnke
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Jul 13, 2022 22:24
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Nice. New thread
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Jul 13, 2022 22:25
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Armadillo Tank posted:what did you do to your jewish population op? it's the drat argentinians that need to get out of the lone star state
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Jul 13, 2022 22:27
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is there a paradox game I can play on my phone yet?
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Jul 13, 2022 22:28
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A long post from the Ukraine thread that I have been mulling over...Frosted Flake posted:Can we talk about that for a second? I like the level of detail in John Tiller games, CMO or Combat Mission, which is why they are good training/teaching tools, but no one person would be expected to direct each section or team in a battalion, each ship in a navy, each company in an army group.
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Jul 13, 2022 22:34
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That thing about the player having to move every single unit by hand every single turn is historically really just a hold over from the physical wargames where obviously, everything had to be done by hand. Even so, those physical wargames often retained a very primitive way to represent their armies as an undifferentiated mass of single units. Stacking several divisions for an attack would only give you the sum of the individual divisions' combat factors, the same total as if they had attacked individually. By now this has become a trope of how wargames should look and work: lazy design perpetuating itself into a genre identity. A wargame has to have a billion units for you to move one by one, because that's what makes it a wargame. Not to mention the visceral thrill of having cool black and white counters for every single SS division!
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Jul 13, 2022 22:59
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wargame red dragon is p fun, the 2nd korean war campaign is hilarious
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Jul 13, 2022 23:02
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 can't wait for proper victoria 3 and taking photos of the jank government makeups that comes from a patch zero paradox game
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Jul 13, 2022 23:04
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forming communist megagermany in vicky2 and then trying to prop up revolutions in britain and france resulting in 80 million dead europeans is probably the most fun i've had in a paradox game
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Jul 13, 2022 23:05
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i've been revisting john tiller's campaign series which you know is a grognard game because the designer's name is in the title
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Jul 13, 2022 23:06
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Do you guys have some suggestions on wargames that are a) playable on potato computers, b) not ridiculously complex and c) seriously, not ridiculously complex, I've never played a strategy game more complicated than Advance Wars before? Actually that reminds me, if it's turn based, all the better.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:06
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Raskolnikov38 posted:forming communist megagermany in vicky2 and then trying to prop up revolutions in britain and france resulting in 80 million dead europeans is probably the most fun i've had in a paradox game
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Jul 13, 2022 23:09
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January 6 Survivor posted:Do you guys have some suggestions on wargames that are a) playable on potato computers, b) not ridiculously complex and c) seriously, not ridiculously complex, I've never played a strategy game more complicated than Advance Wars before? Actually that reminds me, if it's turn based, all the better. Unity of Command is a good starting point. Enough is abstracted that's its arguably more of a puzzle game than a wargame but it's still a good entry to the genre and thinking about concepts like supply and planning offensives. Panzer Corps or its sequel are also good. Much more about mashing your mans into the other mans and maintaining your troops over the duration of a campaign. Panzer Corps 2 is more of the same but prettier and a little smoother.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:14
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That's definitely a thing, and it creates a vicious circle in regards to both assistive and oppositional AI--the computer must in turn be as incompetent as a distracted player in order to produce semiplausible results where player attention isn't, which in turn makes doing the Patton bullshit of jumping into a jeep and leading one (minimum exposed unit here) around give implausibly good results, which in turn encourages the player to leave nothing to their own vestigial AI, which in turn makes fixing up the barely-used player-subordinate AI low priority.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:15
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Was super excited to play the actual game Wargame but it's a painful slog of a learning curve and gave up after a day of playing. Paradox games will never betray me but their DLCs might
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January 6 Survivor posted:Do you guys have some suggestions on wargames that are a) playable on potato computers, b) not ridiculously complex and c) seriously, not ridiculously complex, I've never played a strategy game more complicated than Advance Wars before? Actually that reminds me, if it's turn based, all the better. There's Unity of Command which is relatively more approachable but more puzzle-like (and bit of an RNG fest if you're going for best victory) compared to others in the grog game category. Rule the Waves 3 is coming to steam and should be playable on super potato computers. But it requires some knowledge of naval history and technology in order to get super high prestige. You could probably muddle through without said naval history knowledge.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:19
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Flight sims, but IL-2 is chill & fun but needs some equipment. DCS needs a lot more homework. Naval sim, but Cold Waters looks fun but I don't really have time to invest in new games.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:21
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we should play cuba libre on tabletop sim
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Jul 13, 2022 23:27
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Terra Invicta MLM 3rd Worldist Power Strategy 
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Pike and Shot/Sengoku Jidai/Field of Glory 2 are all pretty neat premodern tactical games; the combat takes a minute to get used to all the possible modifiers but the UI is pretty intuitive. I'd definitely recommend Unity of Command though, it's pretty decent especially on a first play and it teaches a lot of the basic ideas that more complicated wargames use
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Jul 13, 2022 23:29
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Atrocious Joe posted:how deep in the CIA is Volko Ruhnke extremely funny that Andean Abyss is about how Uribe saved Colombia when last I checked he's awaiting trial for war crimes
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Jul 13, 2022 23:30
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wargame red dragon is p fun, the 2nd korean war campaign is hilarious i bought this a few years ago but am way too stupid for it, coudlnt figure it out after half an hour
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Jul 13, 2022 23:31
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alpha centauri is a very good game
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Jul 13, 2022 23:31
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I don't really play computer games anymore but I still fire up Civ 4: BtS a few times a year Fav physical or "cardboard" game is A&A, 50th Ed.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:33
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Stairmaster posted:we should play cuba libre on tabletop sim nah, lets play A Distant Plain in honor of President Biden and his hugely succesful ending of the invasion of Afghanistan
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Jul 13, 2022 23:35
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lobster shirt posted:i bought this a few years ago but am way too stupid for it, coudlnt figure it out after half an hour its very grognardy and anyone that can play it at speeds above superslow or bullet-time must secretly be AI super computers
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Jul 13, 2022 23:37
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i picked up that rebel inc game and the main takeaways i got from it (pretty certain it was unintentionally too) was that the economist sucked rear end and that NGOs are the devil's tools and should never be trusted unrelatedly i got that afghanistan '11 and vietnam '75 games off the steam sale but haven't played them yet.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:38
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Southpaugh posted:Theres been a lot of talk in the Special Military Operation thread about the various wargames and strategy games our resident war nerds enjoy. Yeah I'm a pretty big fan of hardcore ultrarealistic grognard wargames myself. My favorite's Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge.
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Jul 13, 2022 23:39
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HOI4 is kind of busted in the vanilla game if things go too ahistorical because you get poo poo like fascist India joining the Comintern or whatever. It's a cool game though and I like the focus on production and equipment, plus it's got a decent implementation of logistics since they added railways and supply hubs to the core mechanics. The Kaiserreich mod is good too and is even starting to get rid of the horseshoe theory bullshit that was built into it from day 1 now, they're slowly changing things so that communists and fascists aren't just lumped together as 'totalists' half the time. I'm currently doing a Kaiserreich game as Serbia and it's fun to go socialist and have to military conspiracies and prepare for war against Austria-Hungary in order to form Yugoslavia and get Tito inDanann posted:i picked up that rebel inc game and the main takeaways i got from it (pretty certain it was unintentionally too) was that the economist sucked rear end and that NGOs are the devil's tools and should never be trusted lol that's the one with a glowing quote on the steam page from the (now former) Afghan ambassador to the UK
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StashAugustine posted:extremely funny that Andean Abyss is about how Uribe saved Colombia when last I checked he's awaiting trial for war crimes HerraS posted:nah, lets play A Distant Plain in honor of President Biden and his hugely succesful ending of the invasion of Afghanistan would be a shame if the series peaked as early as A Distant Plain, but ADP is really good IMO
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Jul 13, 2022 23:46
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Futanari Damacy posted:I don't really play computer games anymore but I still fire up Civ 4: BtS a few times a year Remains the best designed of the series. What are people's opinions on Humankind or The Old World ?
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:Remains the best designed of the series. Humankind sucks and is boring and weirdly racist, but I hear good things about Old World even from people who have otherwise gone off Civ games
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Rebel Inc is a neat little toy, but it is absolute loving horseshit that the insurgency will just auto-spawn even when you have 99% of the map stabilized and the peace process almost complete, basically forcing you to take a massive Reputation hit from disbanding all the jihadi super-soldiers.
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