causticBeet posted:

gently caress fcon

Not An Arsonist posted:

Talk to me about Goosefleet and the resurrection of Hole Squad. I am curious in all the right ways.

Rust Martialis posted:

I mean it's not like SA of all places telling people not to join GSF is really going to have a measureable effect on recruitment to the alliance at this point.

It's a bit insulting to those SA posters who are still in CFC and who are apparently serious about effecting change. But until clear and convincing evidence is shown that a real seachange has happened, it's for the best, I suppose.

Edit: maybe don't recommend BRAVE so quickly from the feedback already either?

Cenodoxus posted:

It might be helpful to include an overview of the different account types for old and new players, since that was another semi-recent change.

In typical "the first hit is always free" fashion, EVE now has two tiers of accounts:

Alpha - The free tier

• Limited selection of ships, modules, and skills, but plenty of opportunities to cause mayhem
  
• You gain skill points at a slower rate and can only train skills up to a certain level
  
• Although you are not limited on how many accounts you can have, you can only be signed in on one Alpha account at a time
  

Omega - The paid tier

• Faster skill training
  
• No restrictions on ships, modules, and skills
  
• You're able - and sometimes incentivized depending on play style - to run multiple Omega accounts at once
  

A good number of players do pay for Omega entirely in-game through income-generating activities like ratting, salvaging, industrial production, and even scamming other players.

CCP recently upped the Omega monthly subscription from $15 to $20, though they frequently run specials with steep discounts for longer subscription periods or multi-account discounts.

Accounts can go back and forth between Alpha and Omega status without penalty. Any Omega skills, ships, and modules you possess on your characters are simply locked out until you resubscribe.

WorkerThread posted:

is it possible to enjoy wormholes with a single account? there were a lot of things i liked about eve but always hated the normalization of everyone having 3+ accounts. i quit playing after the last war and the price increased seemed like the final nail but i've never tried living in a wormhole.

Mederlock posted:

And you say that based on what, exactly?

Conspiratiorist posted:

Have you considered such generalizations are insulting to the people serious about effecting change from the inside??

Mederlock posted:

I think there's still merit in a group within GSF trying to influence things on the inside and helping it chart a new, better course away from the toxicity and harassment of the past. Nobody's asking you to add it to the OP, but I and others can tell you Am0k. is a bubble of safety and respect within the Imperium. Whoever said in the last thread that Am0k is a telegram-based group in the last thread isn't wrong lol.

Anyways, I'm just asking you to not tar Amok with the same brush that you're painting the rest of the alliance with, because we're not like that, but that's just my take as a regular ole line member.

lollontee posted:

what a stupid game

Mederlock posted:

You say that, but seem to be assuming that it's not happening. Not all the raising merry hell happens in Elysium or the SA thread. Some groups bring the sanitizing light of the truth out in the open and push the public perception in the right direction, like this thread has. Other groups use their influence in PM's, private/privileged channels, and other similar methods.

Anyways, I can't really defend the quality of our posting because , but it's simply not true to say that everyone left in the Imperium are Mittani bootlickers who had lovely takes in the QA threads.

learnincurve posted:

SsssSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssssSSSSSSssssssss_ssssssss My pink boa constrictor max that I rescued him from a toilet roll.

Amok is not getting in the OP other than the poo poo list, it’s a no, end of. New thread goose. HONK

Mederlock posted:

Maneck posted:

On first read, I thought dragonshardz OP was unfair. I checked. It is not unfair. Coupled with the Fireside, now I understand. There is a lot of nonsense being spewed, but there are (at least) two big, glaring, inexcusable failures. Those who already left are not wrong.

learnincurve posted:

Honk if you read that as respectable lady

_honk

Foehammer007 posted:

Promoting brave is bad but go goose fleet

Kazinsal posted:

So is Goosefleet going to be the "official" SA corp? If so I might come back. Still need to drop waffe and move my poo poo to asset safety and find some way to get my rear end out of GE- to wherever we'd be setting up shop.

Mapache posted:

Wait, why is bad-touch on this list?

Kazinsal posted:

Rad, thanks. The Discord link in the second post of the thread seems to be broken, or maybe that's just my end? Just opens a blank new tab for me.

andromache posted:

Goonswarm Federation has heard the request that we retire the fatbee and all associated bee paraphenalia.

Effective immediately, I present the new, newbee:



(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Rhymenoserous posted:

There's a little part of me that wishes we could build one corp for ~gewns~ again and grow it from organically sourced goons but really that's just because I don't want to go hunting for a new home every time I log into this loving game two years after the last time.

That's the one thing I loved about the swarm and it was ruined. Rip.

feedmegin posted:

Not to defend Imperium dudes but...how? Same with the people who complain the directorate won't make heads roll. What concrete action do you think a director can take here, go round Mittani's house with a baseball bat? This isnt real life. There isn't actually a way of doing a Death of Stalin style housecleaning.

Mapache posted:

We thank you, Johnny, for the gift of your body's moisture.

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

Does anyone who got got during The Troubles actually WANT amnesty?

Vanadium posted:

"Amnesties" would be a positive signal because the whole "people who get upset and make noise are dangerous schismatics that must be purged for the good of the swarm" shtick is kinda what got GSF into this situation. Like, let's demonstrate that solving for-real issues is more important than enforcing respect for forum rules and leadership.

Good Dumplings posted:

lol and lmao






tag yourself, I'm the part where banned delta posters are "assholes beyond the pale"

Zodium posted:

Alex will start by laying groundwork through pulling on his network to downplay and diffuse the details and emotional impact. Then, he'll return as a professor emeritus sort of regular member, just hanging and shooting the poo poo, being a cool guy who's learned his lesson now. Finally, when the organization next comes under pressure, he'll sigh, and ever so reluctantly respond to the membership's growing calls for his triumphant return to leadership.

playbook.txt

learnincurve posted:

Reminder that goosefleet is a rapidly becoming a thing, details first page. Hole squad part ducks.

Potato Salad posted:

We're only one week after sexual harassment, pedophilia, queerbashing, and other horrible markers of lovely people resulted in a huge calamity, and already the alliance's leaders are equivocating about reversing judgments against the people who went to bat for the victims.

hailthefish posted:

I think that was the breaking point for a lot of people ITT, and importantly it's something that we have the receipts for.

ALL the other 'rear end in a top hat mittens' stuff is icing on the cake, demonstrating that it's not a one off event but rather a consistent pattern of behavior.

So it boils down to people who are okay with that behavior, and people who aren't.

So far all the language about mittens' departure, from the man himself and from TheAdj and others still 'in', has been focused much more on the negative publicity and the drama and not wanting to deal with the accusations, which strongly implies that those making those statements don't actually have any problem with that behavior.

And the anger from those who are now 'out' because they were not okay with that behavior isn't performative wokeness or sour grapes or ancient bitterness or whatever, it's because they value the connection to the ~space tribe~ and are left feeling horrified and betrayed by what was being done by and concealed by the people entrusted to lead it.

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

The funniest part by far was losing our baby astra in lowsec in true goon fashion.

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

Lol how?

We're on the case... we meant to do this...

learnincurve posted:

are you describing a high sec gank?

Vilgan posted:

Kind of crazy to leave on a trip for 2 weeks with some outrage bubbling to come back to Mittens gone and like 300 pages of posts here and in the old new thread.

While I didn't fit in with GSF (cultural revolution still had a ways to go), I really liked Init. The only reason I left is because I despised mittens and refused to be a part of a large org with him at the head. Was a bit weird bailing on my squad while quietly suppressing "but I can't loving stand our coalition leader" as the reason for departing. Sounds like they are still around (the wormhole dudes), no clue how many have left GSF over recent events.

For goosefleet: I assume you can figure it all out, but if you want a nice pathfinder setup you might want to reach out to Ajaxify. He is an SA poster and did some nice custom updates for our group there that I'd assume he'd be up for sharing.

Wormholes are good poo poo When you have a large group of actives, could also bounce over to pochven for some larger group pvpve. Good isk and more conducive (imo) to group pve stuff when you have 8-15 people active. Foxholers and various other wormhole groups do that periodically as well.

Glad to see mittens gone, curious to see if this results in real actual tangible change.

Thread start mentions Brave as a landing place, but there's also Volta and the GTC if Brave doesn't appeal but you like the idea of being a part of the most interesting war going on atm (imo) . And is a pretty competent/fun group as well.

twigplant posted:

uh oh, our d-name poster relapsed into d-name posting.

Normal Barbarian posted:

What happened with holesquad after the SQWID schism, anyhow? Did it get rebooted?

RazNation posted:

I don't know. I do not think I have ever seen a white person get red-misted in the panties when called that name.

Maybe it means something to a redneck who has social issues but then having a person dropping the N word seems to be a huge no-no but when a black person does it, nothing is said.

I'm confused.

Bad Purchase posted:

please don’t call me the h-word anymore, i’m begging you

or the k-word either

Evil SpongeBob posted:

So, do I need to drop a goatse ban me thread in goonfleet forums? I still have vacation access, but I don't know how to cut myself out of it completely.

Elusif II posted:

You sure you don't just want me to bankroll something for you instead? An astrahus is only like 5 bil all told.

Wolfy posted:

To that extent, isn't snicker a perfectly acceptable substitute?

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

you didnt need to pm me dude you could just wait a day

triaxius posted:

I tried to do this after I reinstalled and logged in long enough to biomass my alts and take stock of my assets. I don't want to biomass Solo as I might come back at some point, just not now, and there is no use in billions of ISK just rotting. The few T2 ships and fits I have I'm going to hang on to.

Can you explain how to do this in terms that somebody is horrible at EVE can understand? I tried via my wallet, then I tried to find some way to do it via a corp search. It's probably some flashing button I overlooked due to suffering brain damage from having reinstalled this client.

edit: Yes, I also searched how to do this, the first few hits were from 10 years ago and referred to things that don't seem to exist anymore so I gave up.

triaxius posted:

Thank you and done.

WorkerThread posted:

this is going to sound condescending, i guess, but i am genuinely curious. it seems clear that many people in this thread view how they participate in this video game as a moral choice. do you make analogous decisions in your real life? like, never shopping on amazon, working for a company whose head has credible sexual harassment or discrimination claims, etc. video games are way lower stakes, i suppose where the consequences of sticking to your principles isn't as high. i don't mind being called a moron for still being in gsf, but the tension of constantly watching everything that has a tertiary relationship with your consumption habits (in this case, video gaming) seems very stressful

Bad Purchase posted:

if i look at the post history of the people scolding goons for not leaving gsf after the mittens leaks, how many would i find that continued to participate on the SA forums after the lowtax leaks?

Bad Purchase posted:

i’ll see you in court