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Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Re: Stubborn to the point of defaulting. Additonal to the massive incompetence, let's not forget the incredibly obvious operational defiance disorder Alex has

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John Mirra
Dec 18, 2005

Something that bugs me is that one of the families offered Jones a substantially lower payout (like $70M?) and he refused. Does he know something we don't or would he rather drag himself through courts endlessly rather than admit defeat? I can't help but get the feeling this is his way of tormenting the families.

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

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John Mirra posted:

Something that bugs me is that one of the families offered Jones a substantially lower payout (like $70M?) and he refused. Does he know something we don't or would he rather drag himself through courts endlessly rather than admit defeat? I can't help but get the feeling this is his way of tormenting the families.

I think it's partially that, partially that he thought himself invincible, partially that he's an idiot.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Deptfordx posted:

Re: Stubborn to the point of defaulting. Additonal to the massive incompetence, let's not forget the incredibly obvious operational defiance disorder Alex has

I'm catching up on back episodes of KF before I see it live. Right now I'm on #364, covering April 21-22, 2013. After the Boston bombing, Alex flat-out says that if his community were given a stay-at-home request (not even an order!) he'd break it because you can't tell him what to do.

He's a petulant man-child.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

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Someone tell Alex the government recommended he wear seatbelts

Dr. Red Ranger
Nov 9, 2011

Nap Ghost

John Mirra posted:

Something that bugs me is that one of the families offered Jones a substantially lower payout (like $70M?) and he refused. Does he know something we don't or would he rather drag himself through courts endlessly rather than admit defeat? I can't help but get the feeling this is his way of tormenting the families.
If he really does have oppositional defiance disorder (I'm not a psych, but have family members with it and narcissism/BPD) then you can't really analyze his actions through a lense of logic or utility. To a person with ODD, defiance is the point and principle; there are no consequences they won't suffer to tell someone no.

SonOfGhostDad
Nov 16, 2022

Slyphic posted:

Legit followup question for your friend. Can the conservator/ bankruptcy court not stop him from doing further crimes with the things they're looking over?

I got an answer today: "I don't know, I'm not doing research to look it up."

Tough, but fair.

The Pirate Captain
Jun 6, 2006

Avast ye lubbers, lest ye be scuppered!
How much is he getting from the bankruptcy court to live on? Isn’t it something ridiculous like $50k/month?

The Bible
May 8, 2010

The Pirate Captain posted:

How much is he getting from the bankruptcy court to live on? Isn’t it something ridiculous like $50k/month?

We went over this. Civil courts are very fair and consider the comfort and lifestyle preferences of all who move through them.

SonOfGhostDad
Nov 16, 2022
We have legitimately been over this. Free Speech Systems has a court-appointed trustee, but I couldn't find any source that says Alex Jones has a trustee who might be controlling his personal finances. The courts aren't dictating how Jones spends his money while the bankruptcy is pending. I don't know where people are getting this idea that he's getting some sort of allowance from the courts.

SonOfGhostDad
Nov 16, 2022
For some laughs, here's a shot: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/alex-jones-media-company-reorganization-doubtful-trustee-says

And a chaser: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/infowars-parents-bankruptcy-judge-considers-tossing-chapter-11

Looks like the FSS bankruptcy will get a decision in June, and FSS will not be able to reorganize.

The Bible
May 8, 2010

SonOfGhostDad posted:

Looks like the FSS bankruptcy will get a decision in June, and FSS will not be able to reorganize.

Well, that's refreshingly soon. Hopefully I've been wrong this whole time. I will gladly eat crow if I was.

Serious question for those in the know, if it turns out Jones was obviously obfuscating his finances to slow this whole process down, is there a consequence for that? What would it typically be?

Morroque
Mar 6, 2013
It is curious to me that PQPR was the first to recommend completely liquidating FSS. Its more curious that they are still able to argue their "debt" with FSS is completely legitimate and not a form of attempted bankruptcy fraud, even at this late stage.

SonOfGhostDad
Nov 16, 2022

The Bible posted:

Well, that's refreshingly soon. Hopefully I've been wrong this whole time. I will gladly eat crow if I was.

I don't think anyone's looking to say "I told you so," especially upon the joyous occasion of Jones's destruction.

The Bible posted:

Serious question for those in the know, if it turns out Jones was obviously obfuscating his finances to slow this whole process down, is there a consequence for that? What would it typically be?

This would be fraud and it carries criminal penalties, including prison time. It's extremely unlikely that Jones is not committing at least one kind of fraud.

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Aeble
Oct 21, 2010


Anyone know which episodes of Knowledge Fight might be covering when Alex put on a donkey mask to screetch about operation 666? I remember seeing youtube clips of him going unhinged (:v:), and I assumed it had to do with his court cases, but I can't remember the dates and I didn't have any luck searching in the archive.

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