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Feels more like the Klopp era in Liverpool's just about out of steam tbh.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Feels more like the Klopp era in Liverpool's just about out of steam tbh. Don't his teams have form for imploding after 7 years
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TheRat posted:Don't his teams have form for imploding after 7 years Well, Dortmund did. Mainz kind of petered out over the course of years 5-7
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Aug 24, 2022 16:35
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Dortmund also had Bayern poaching their attacking talent every other season
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Aug 24, 2022 16:43
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Time to end the disastrous Liverpool experiment
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Aug 24, 2022 16:50
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I feel like I could handle an implosion after 7 years of mega success and trophies
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Aug 24, 2022 17:01
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To seriouspost, I think the current Liverpool team is guilty of little other than being fatigued and in transition. 2019 to end of last season has been pretty intense with demands of players and a good number of first choice players in that period are getting comfortably into their 30s. I think they still miss Wijnaldum and I don't think Diaz presses as well as Mane, at least not yet, and I imagine he's still getting used to playing with Robertson on that side.McFlurry Fan #1 posted:I feel like I could handle an implosion after 7 years of mega success and trophies Interestingly, apart from the Europa League he's picked up one of each trophy at Liverpool I think NinpoEspiritoSanto fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Aug 24, 2022 |
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Aug 24, 2022 17:01
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Liverpool look significantly less quick and dangerous than they have in past years. Some of that is probably fatigue but they are getting older and Mane was a big loss. I wouldn’t be surprised if it takes them a couple years to rebuild and it will be interesting to see whether FSG actually lets Klopp oversee a rebuild.
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Aug 24, 2022 17:12
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We're always 6 to 12 months behind on transfers.
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Aug 24, 2022 17:21
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blue footed boobie posted:Liverpool look significantly less quick and dangerous than they have in past years. Some of that is probably fatigue but they are getting older and Mane was a big loss. I wouldn’t be surprised if it takes them a couple years to rebuild and it will be interesting to see whether FSG actually lets Klopp oversee a rebuild. Klopp is the only reason why FSG's model looks like it works and isn't another example of American corporate folly. Hopefully they have stopped huffing their own farts and back him up decently, but who knows. If I was a billionaire, I suppose I'd think I was always right as well.
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Aug 24, 2022 18:02
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Flayer posted:Liverpool aren't going to break 60 points unless they start playing seriously better. 7 games in a row now is it where they have conceded first, that is simply unsustainable if they want to be winning games regularly. Maybe smashing Bournemouth this weekend will raise morale. I only watched their game against United so far but their midfield is bad without Thiago and Fabinho. Case in point, look how good Scott McTominay looks in this clip: https://streamja.com/20g5p
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Aug 24, 2022 18:11
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jettisonedstuff posted:I only watched their game against United so far but their midfield is bad without Thiago and Fabinho. Case in point, look how good Scott McTominay looks in this clip: McTominay has that in him, what he can't do is receive the ball on the half turn under pressure when you're trying to play out from the back and being pressed. Neither can Fred, which is why having two midfielders that can't do that, exposes the defence and goal keeper when trying to inexplicably play out from the back with personnel that can't do it. Had we tried that against Liverpool it would have been a very different result.
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Aug 24, 2022 18:18
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I saw a stat recently that said something insane like McTominay has the highest rate of successful dribbles of any midfielder in the prem the past year or whatever
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Aug 24, 2022 18:20
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He's pretty good at nicking the ball, beating a player, and then passing the ball into someone's shins.
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Agree with what's been said here. The players look gassed just like they did in the second half of the 2020-21 season, and it's no surprise really. We had a hell of a season last year, made the final of every competition while also competing for the league, which meant every match was high pressure and the first team played an unbelievable amount of matches. I'm not surprised they're mentally and physically exhausted. I had hoped that having a proper offseason would help (no World Cup in the summer...) but clearly it didn't. Players getting little injuries that take them out of contention isn't surprising in that kind of context, but that also means a greater workload put on the players left uninjured. Combine that with a squad that have accomplished a lot together but are now aging together, and it's troubling. imo the team could really use an injection of new blood and I like the signings that are being made, but it seems like we just aren't making enough signings to refresh the squad at the moment, and we've been focused on renewing the front three more than anywhere else and it shows. I think Diaz and Nunez will be good players for us, and Jota has also been a good addition. I like the look of Fabio Carvalho as well. Even with Mane gone, I think the attack will be fine once those players are bedded in and stop headbutting people. This season the biggest problems I've seen are clowncar defensive mistakes that I don't think would have happened a year ago and a lack of energy in the midfield, which isn't surprising when we're starting Milner and most of our defenders or midfielders look tired or out of ideas. Harvey Elliott looks promising but he plays like a winger, not a central midfielder, and Curtis Jones is injured I guess? I don't think he was even on the bench against Man U. It reminds me of the players looking tired in mid 2020-21, but it also reminds me of whichever season that was (the same one, I think) where all our defenders were injured and we were playing Henderson and Fabinho in central defence, and our midfield looked completely exposed as a result. Everybody talks about the front three in Klopp's system or whatever but really I think the midfield is the most important part of the pitch for it, you need players who contribute to the press, who drop back to link up with the defenders and allow the fullbacks to overlap, and who will get forward and link up with the attack as well. Against Man U we had 2/3 players who were too slow or inexperienced to press effectively and who were playing like strikers instead of linking up with the defence, and it meant we were completely outplayed all over the pitch.
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With 20:20 hindsight, they chose wrong in picking Thiago over Wijnaldum
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tarbrush posted:With 20:20 hindsight, they chose wrong in picking Thiago over Wijnaldum I think the fact he's missed, according to transfermarkt, 171 matches through injury in his career gave nearly 20:20 foresight that he wasn't the answer as well.
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Meanwhile Wijnaldum has now been loaned out to Roma after a single season with PSG
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vyelkin posted:Meanwhile Wijnaldum has now been loaned out to Roma after a single season with PSG Don't worry, he's already broken his leg.
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tarbrush posted:With 20:20 hindsight, they chose wrong in picking Thiago over Wijnaldum The problem with a model based on being clever is that trying to be clever is often the quickest route to screwing up.
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Aug 25, 2022 16:40
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The entire Liverpool team has "asthma" & if you question that at all shame on you
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Aug 25, 2022 18:20
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Liverpool have a billion first team injuries and that surprisingly impacts how the team performs. Not really deeper than that
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African AIDS cum posted:The entire Liverpool team has "asthma" & if you question that at all shame on you I love a good TUE
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Are they still over 50% of players with asthma?
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Shrapnig posted:Don't worry, he's already broken his leg. In training even
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UnderFreddy posted:Liverpool have a billion first team injuries and that surprisingly impacts how the team performs. Not really deeper than that Feel free to not delve in any deeper then, kindly don't tell the rest of us we're discussing it wrong.
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https://twitter.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1563555220562808834
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Aug 27, 2022 17:08
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Eric the Mauve posted:Feels more like the Klopp era in Liverpool's just about out of steam tbh. Lol, lmao. Cheeky 9-0 for the lads
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lol
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Guardian just did the most Guardian thing ever. The Liverpool-Bournemouth match report describes it as "extracted the Michael out of" them.
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https://twitter.com/StatmanDave/status/1563536017516216321 Not bad for a 5'4 centre back
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Aug 27, 2022 18:27
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Maybe he’s just not going up for them because he’s miniature?
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Aug 27, 2022 18:43
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nah he's aggro as gently caress
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Farcenal
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https://twitter.com/ShamoonHafez/status/1563566951276101632?t=8aAl0xnXNJotORPq2Hx8uQ&s=19
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boooooo
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Whoops, wrong thread.
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Jexner posted:https://twitter.com/ShamoonHafez/status/1563566951276101632?t=8aAl0xnXNJotORPq2Hx8uQ&s=19 I feel bad for their keeper. 7 goals were players in acres of space rocketing shots into the corners or uncontested headers in the box, plus an own goal by a defender and one more where he made 2 good stops from very close before allowing the goal in on the 3rd shot with the defenders just watching.
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https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph/status/1564244993149132803?s=20&t=G9pA4B65b1YyD6R5JgnEbw 
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https://twitter.com/WhoScored/status/1564173509378670593?t=966_D5tGAGgp4dwxoRGF1g&s=19 Fan-loving-tastic.
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