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Exodee
Mar 30, 2011

DeathSandwich posted:

Also man thinking about early Vermintide jank is still the best. I reminded myself of this just a little bit ago.

https://youtu.be/m8QGGoEav40
I think you meant to post this video :v:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGwDmDwspFg

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bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

I wouldn't mind seeing them do Age of Sigmar next. Really lean into portals around the weird epic environments and the enemy and player variety, especially if they want to release a new PC for $5-10 every quarter.

Darktide has some really good voice interactions but it felt really repetitive in part in the beta. Hopefully it really opens up for the full game, or there's a way to respec your voice/personality in game.

Siivola
Dec 23, 2012

One reason it was repetitive was that you could have the same voice multiple times in a team.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Exodee posted:

I think you meant to post this video :v:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGwDmDwspFg

Oh man that's great. I remember the Wheat and Chaff one specifically because due to a confluence of issues that made it way more common on that map in particular.

Like anyone who wasn't involved in Vermintide watch that video and understand that a lot of us old grogs played through that and still loved the game anyway. It's why I'm okay buying Darktide sight unseen, knowing it's going to be a bug filled mess, but it's going to be at least a compelling bug filled mess

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

Edmond Dantes posted:

So with this Darktide around the corner and this Vermintide 2 pseudo renaissance, do y'all reckon we should try to consolidate threads/discords to have a more centralized "*Tide" goon community?

The VT2 thread points to the goontide discord, this thread points to the co-op discord, and I've seen folks in this thread the steam thread and the VT2 thread mention grabbing VT2 recently and wanting to get some games going, but feels like everyone's just going off on their own which is kind of a shame?

If you make it, I will promote it every chance I get ITT and the steam thread when the games are brought up. My irl friends have all peeled off in different directions and I am alone in the video game world so I'm ready to make friends.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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big cummers ONLY posted:

If you make it, I will promote it every chance I get ITT and the steam thread when the games are brought up. My irl friends have all peeled off in different directions and I am alone in the video game world so I'm ready to make friends.

Making another Discord server is probably just gonna splinter poo poo even more :v:

Just thinking out loud, I reckon at this point the easier way out would be to just make a unified *Tide thread and decide which discord we want it to funnel folks into so we can just point folks to the thread and have all resources there.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Vermintide 2 is very, very good, from people's experience with the Darktide beta they have not messed with the gameplay loop in the slightest besides small tweaks, different character loadouts and new enemies and a heavier focus on ranged fire both receiving and delivering, unless they sneak in some godawful progression none-sense littered with pay2win or pay2skip the game is looking like it will be very, very good much like Vermintide2.

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

Edmond Dantes posted:

Making another Discord server is probably just gonna splinter poo poo even more :v:

Just thinking out loud, I reckon at this point the easier way out would be to just make a unified *Tide thread and decide which discord we want it to funnel folks into so we can just point folks to the thread and have all resources there.

I imagine in true goon fashion, we will all wait until the last second and then, in the chaos of launch, one server will organically become The Chosen One

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Edmond Dantes posted:

So with this Darktide around the corner and this Vermintide 2 pseudo renaissance, do y'all reckon we should try to consolidate threads/discords to have a more centralized "*Tide" goon community?

The VT2 thread points to the goontide discord, this thread points to the co-op discord, and I've seen folks in this thread the steam thread and the VT2 thread mention grabbing VT2 recently and wanting to get some games going, but feels like everyone's just going off on their own which is kind of a shame?

That sounds like a great idea! If others agree to this I’m willing to start up that thread, I might have to steal some explainers from the threads and combine them, does everyone else agree?

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



VT2 and Darktide will probably just end up sharing the same playerbase unless darktide fucks up hard on launch and afterwards so not a bad idea.

Char
Jan 5, 2013

Pennsylvanian posted:

Characters will be the #1 thing I miss with VT. So much dialogue in games/movies/TV feels off these days, but I always liked the VT dialogue. That, and the voice acting is incredible for a group of people who aren't even well-known names in the VA world.

No "Uhh, Goreksson, I have a question... nah, leave it, it's a stupid question." interactions :(

"Is this Cousin Okri real?"

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Nothing will beat drunk Saltzpyre revealing his dream is to drive a steam tank and proceed to make whistling noises.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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ChaseSP posted:

Nothing will beat drunk Saltzpyre revealing his dream is to drive a steam tank and proceed to make whistling noises.

Oh god I got Kerillian voice line recently poking fun at Saltzpyre for that (during a normal mission). Something along the lines of "well, we're lucky you're not actually a steam tank, otherwise we couldn't get you up this hill" and Salty being all flustered and playing dumb.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

ChaseSP posted:

Nothing will beat drunk Saltzpyre revealing his dream is to drive a steam tank and proceed to make whistling noises.

That was a vt1 line and Sienna and Kerrelian still makes fun of him for it in vt2 :v:

Fishstick
Jul 9, 2005

Does not require preheating
Have you heard about Hogger's bridge?

Chakan
Mar 30, 2011
I don't mind updating the OP with discord info or whatever, if there's other ones that should be in there. I figured there would be a thread for darktide for the first couple months/year then depending on activity we might merge them into one *tide thread, not that I'm an authority on what should happen.

big cummers ONLY
Jul 17, 2005

I made a series of bad investments. Tarantula farm. The bottom fell out of the market.

Chakan posted:

I don't mind updating the OP with discord info or whatever, if there's other ones that should be in there. I figured there would be a thread for darktide for the first couple months/year then depending on activity we might merge them into one *tide thread, not that I'm an authority on what should happen.

I just can't imagine the venn diagram of players for each game being much more than perfectly overlapping, aside from new players being brought in by Darktide. *tide games feel more like a lineage at this point, like Pokemon, where a megathread for all of them makes sense. Though it could potentially just be as simple as a title change for this thread and small reworking of the OP. Again just spitballing, I am bad at this kind of thing.

I just want things setup in whatever way makes it easiest for us to find each other and play.

Anti-Hero
Feb 26, 2004

Al-Saqr posted:

Yeah all the DLC put together is 20 dollars with the free base game, it’s an absolute steal, I’m very excited to play the game when I get home today to see if the hype was real!

Where are you that it's $20 for all the DLC? I'm in NA and it's showing as $39.99 for the complete pack. And I redeemed the free Steam copy. Did I miss the window for the uber discount?

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Char posted:

No "Uhh, Goreksson, I have a question... nah, leave it, it's a stupid question." interactions :(

"Is this Cousin Okri real?"

[Furious Dwarven sputtering]

PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce
I thought Saltzpyre’s dream was to be a steam tank, not drive one.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Anti-Hero posted:

Where are you that it's $20 for all the DLC? I'm in NA and it's showing as $39.99 for the complete pack. And I redeemed the free Steam copy. Did I miss the window for the uber discount?

Steam adjusts prices according to the region/country you live in, in my part of the world the DLC was at a 60% discount and cost the equivalent of 20 dollars

Anti-Hero
Feb 26, 2004

Al-Saqr posted:

Steam adjusts prices according to the region/country you live in, in my part of the world the DLC was at a 60% discount and cost the equivalent of 20 dollars

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, in my regions it's ~65% discount but comes to $39.99. A bit too rich for me but at $20 I would have jumped in sight unseen.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

Char posted:

No "Uhh, Goreksson, I have a question... nah, leave it, it's a stupid question." interactions :(

"Is this Cousin Okri real?"

For anyone who hasn't heard the best conversation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0gSov73UDE

Edmond Dantes posted:

So with this Darktide around the corner and this Vermintide 2 pseudo renaissance, do y'all reckon we should try to consolidate threads/discords to have a more centralized "*Tide" goon community?

The VT2 thread points to the goontide discord, this thread points to the co-op discord, and I've seen folks in this thread the steam thread and the VT2 thread mention grabbing VT2 recently and wanting to get some games going, but feels like everyone's just going off on their own which is kind of a shame?

The Vermintide discord (renamed to Awfultide now) is basically an open informal friend group and also technically the goon server for hunt showdown because things just happened that way, so I don't see a consolidation happening. A number of the people I've played with have said they'll be darktiding and I expect to be one of them since I'm going to be buying an nvidia GPU soon so I'll own the game either way. One thread for all the tide games makes sense though, could probably just edit the title/OP of this thread

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

For anyone who hasn't heard the best conversation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0gSov73UDE

The Vermintide discord (renamed to Awfultide now) is basically an open informal friend group and also technically the goon server for hunt showdown because things just happened that way, so I don't see a consolidation happening. A number of the people I've played with have said they'll be darktiding and I expect to be one of them since I'm going to be buying an nvidia GPU soon so I'll own the game either way. One thread for all the tide games makes sense though, could probably just edit the title/OP of this thread

Huh, Milkandcookies / Indypride was a goon at one point or something because I was in that first clip. Or I got lucky and pugged with him years ago.

DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Nov 8, 2022

Pennsylvanian
May 23, 2010

Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky Independent Presidential Regiment
Western Liberal Democracy or Death!

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

For anyone who hasn't heard the best conversation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0gSov73UDE

I'm really going to miss having characters that you get to be cozy with. There are so many games these days where I dread the banter, but I love listening to it in VT.

Pennsylvanian fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Nov 8, 2022

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

For anyone who hasn't heard the best conversation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0gSov73UDE


Lol that dwarf rules

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



All the characters are fantastic and Warham Fantasy does something very important with arrogant elves and that is nobody deals with their better than you bullshit. Especially dwarves.

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

big cummers ONLY posted:

gently caress kerillian tho. Toxic and kills the vibe.
:siren:Lumberfoot spotted:siren:

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
ok I made a draft for a new 'tide' megathread, do I go through with it? everyone open to a big 'tide' thread that has both vermintide and darktide? let me know and I'll hit 'post' on it.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.
Post a draft here and we can pick at it a bit before it goes live.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Here is where it’s at right now:-

the TIDE mega thread: one Cup of swords, two Cups of Bullets for every Load of Heresy.

:fatshark:




In this thread we will be discussing two really great Co-op FPS games from FatShark, Vermintide and Darktide! both of these games are excellent Left4Dead style FPS games that are based in the Fantasy and Sci-fi worlds of Warhammer and Warhammer 40k! both have very unique flavors, great slicing and shooting action, really incredible worlds and music and art style. and most importantly, both are fun as gently caress to play!

Here are the various discord servers goons hang out in:-

GOON DISCORD IS HERE: https://discord.gg/XeAaDY3

The Co-op Goons server https://discord.gg/vSNn4Sk

:



First up, Sci-fi Action in the 41st millenium!

==================

WARHAMMER 40,000: DARKTIDE

Chakan posted:




On November 30, 2022 the people that made Vermintide and Vermintide 2 (Fatshark) will release Warhammer 40K: Darktide. It's a 4-player co-op game where you're fighting through hordes of enemies in first-person. The two biggest differences from Vermintide is the comparative emphasis on ranged combat and the addition of a recharging shield for the character based on "cohesion" with teammates. The levels also change what objectives they have, in contrast to Vermintide.





https://i.imgur.com/XdiPLmc.mp4

Here's some videos to give you an idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaBoZkeoook
PC Gamer released a video in mid June with some gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_axpYCAHxQU
Here's another video of someone playing the game a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfDs3grfPzE
An overview of the game with a lot of useful info on the systems, with dev notes.

For those unaware, Fatshark has a tendency to release games with lots of bugs and take a while to patch them properly so we'll see how it goes but they might be trying to buck that reputation because they pushed back the release date from mid-September to late November and are going through a playtest that's supposedly starting soon. You can sign up for that playtest by clicking this link.

There are several classes, and we know there will be two characters of each class, except the Ogryn. I believe it's confirmed there's no mechanical difference between the characters so you can pick whichever one has more fun dialog lines without worrying. It's not confirmed if there will be subclasses like in VT2, but that's probably a safe bet.

Veteran- an Imperial Guardsman designed to be ranged focused and precise, who can take out specials and play a little ahead of the group

Zealot- Melee focused character that can apparently draw aggro from enemies and has a dash

Ogryn- bulky fellow who can act as a zoner, pushing enemies around and controlling the battlefield a bit

Psyker- Magician, great at taking out heavily armored enemies.

I don't think we have much info on the different specials so I'll hold off on adding them till we get a good idea of all of them, but if I'm wrong let me know and I'll add it.

This post will grow with additional information.



===============================================================================================================================================================================


Next up is the Fantasy Game:-

VERMINTIDE 2

DeathSandwich posted:



What is Vermintide:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kSdE5cLnwQ
Imagine this but then they all come for you in a bloodthirsty rage.

Have a gameplay video from back in beta: https://youtu.be/A4PsuOqoQo4
The core gameplay around Vermintide is going to be inherently familiar to anyone who has played Left 4 Dead. Set in the Warhammer universe, the game pits four survivors from disparate backgrounds come together and bond over their mutual love of running places and murdering rats. Like Left 4 Dead 2, people who have played the first game should be right at home, the core mechanics are mostly undisturbed while the players have more tools at their disposal to bash rats.

So what’s new from the first game?
Obviously we have a new series of maps for which to bash rats in, but that’s not all:

+Chaos has joined the fight. Now mixed in with the waves of skaven are the hordes of marauding norsemen of the Chaos god Nurgle. They are gross. They wheeze at you constantly. They are harder to put down than standard rats. They come with their own set of specials: Two sorcerer variants (Blightstorm callers and Lifeleechers), the Norse champions, and Warriors of Chaos, along with Chaos Spawn and Bile Trolls as new boss monsters that can potentially take the place of the Rat Ogre.

+The Skaven are also coming to bear with new specials as well. Warpfire throwers are now on the scene to hose down you and your friends in concentrated warcrime. Stormfiends (rat ogres equipped with warpfire throwers and heavy armor) have also hit the field as a potential boss monster.

+But that’s not to say that the heroes didn’t come prepared as well. Each hero can choose one of three careers that each comes with unique passive and active abilities, as well as a talent tree to allow you ways to differentiate from each other further. To top this off, we’re looking at 9-10 new weapons spread out among the crew to better help them bash rats with on top of all the weapons (minus one) from the original game + DLCs.

So who are the player characters?

Victor Saltzpyre: Likes to think he’s the leader of the group but nobody pays him much mind. Saltzpyre tends to skew towards light, fast weapons as the tools of his trade. Likes purging, Blessed Sigmar, and pistols. Dislikes rats, heresy, and the elf.

His three careers are:
Witch Hunter Captain, an all-rounder career focused on bonus damage for marked targets and feeding his party critical hits.
Bounty Hunter A Ranged combat focused career that likes to mix up melee and ranged attacks to feed him critical hits.
Zealot A melee focused career that gets more dangerous as his health gets lower.
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Markus Kruber: He was Victor’s bodyguard/escort in the first game and went off the deep end a bit between games when he found out his family had been killed by the rats. Primarily operates out of an alcoholic fugue now. He tends toward infantry weapons like heavy blades, rifles, shields, and two handed weapons like a Warhammer or halberd. Has a swanky hat.

His three Careers are:
Mercenary: An offensive career that gets bonuses for hitting multiple enemies per swing and increased cleaving power. His active grants temporary health to help soak damage from a boss or vicious wave.
Huntsman: A ranged career that focuses on getting mega damage headshots. He can gain temporary stealth to move around the fight unmolested and turn his blunderbuss into the thundering hammer of god Taal.
Knight: A defensive career that has damage resistance standard. Has a hilarious charge active with a short cooldown, play this if you love shouting SIRKRUBER! at everyone.
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Sienna Fuegonassus: Is a wizard of the bright college and is an obligate pyromaniac. Sienna is unique in that she does not have traditional ranged weaponry, she uses spells instead which behave in similar fashion but do not use ammunition. Instead she has a heat meter that determines how much she can use her spells. If you over exert yourself you overheat and explode, downing yourself instantly, so don’t overdo it.

Her three careers are:
Battle Wizard: A ranged focused career that focuses on keeping your heat low to keep you casting more often. Her active is a short range dash.
Pyromaniac: A ranged focused career that focuses less on heat management and moreso on doing high damage in general. Her active is a homing firebolt on a short cooldown that doesn’t build heat.
Unchained: A melee focused career that sacrifices on spell potency to allow you to do more melee damage when you are at high heat. Taking damage builds up heat, so be careful not to accidentally overload yourself by getting tagged by a slave.
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Bardin Goreksson: A dwarf who joined the characters of the first game to try and get them to help find an ancient dwarf hold. He was apparently not successful in this venture. Of all the characters in this game, he seems to be the one who is legitimately loving every minute of this poo poo and having a great time killing rats and norsemen. Uses dwarfy weapons like axes and hammers and rifles, but also gets access to a couple of flame belching guns that run off of the same heat mechanic that Sienna uses.

His three careers are:
Ranger Veteran: A ranged focus career that causes special enemies to drop ammo satchels, allowing everyone in the group to maintain their ranged supplies for longer. At higher levels he can opt to turn some ammo drops into healing or stat potions.
Ironbreaker A defense focused career that specializes in being an immovable brick shithouse and making GBS threads great gouts of warcrime fire everywhere with a drakegun.
Slayer An offense focused career that gives up a ranged weapon entirely. In exchange for that, he gets the ability to equip a second melee weapon as well as a potent passive that gives him more damage the more he attacks.
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Kerillian: An elf. She is very whiny and complains about everyone else constantly. All the other characters hate her. Pubbies love her because she’s emo Legolas. May or may not be cursed by the magical hellforest she calls home. She uses blades and daggers in various combinations as well as spears and bows.

Her three careers are:
Waywatcher: A ranged focus career that gives her passive health regeneration. Her active is a trueshot volley that auto-homes in on your target, to compensate the fact that they struck the regular trueshot bow from the game.
Handmaiden: A defensive career that focuses on increased dodging ability and stamina regeneration. She can stand people up without being interrupted, which would be a huge deal If not for the fact that basically anyone can do so.
Shade: An offensive career that focuses on backstabbing and listening to Evanescence albums on repeat. She can actually do some incredible damage if left to her antics (and if she can get behind the mob) and can oneshot chaos warriors from behind.

So yeah! Let’s have fun and complain about fatshark bugs!

:fatshark:


Is this good enough? Let me know what you would like to add!

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Should probably have something about the VT2 DLCs because there’s a lot of it and it’s not super clear at a quick glance what each one gets you other than missions.

Definitely a brief blurb about each DLC career.

E: some of the career write-ups could use a little love. More info on what their active skill does, IB’s soak of a hit via Gromril Armor, etc.

Bussamove fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Nov 8, 2022

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Bussamove posted:

Should probably have something about the VT2 DLCs because there’s a lot of it and it’s not super clear at a quick glance what each one gets you other than missions.

Definitely a brief blurb about each DLC career.

Ok will add this

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Swap out the playtest into for pre-order early access on steam but not game pass, mention no crossplay, add the premium vt2 careers to everyone but Sienna. Maybe mention the free VT2 and sale on dlc if that is still going.

Optional but maybe add some funny videos like some choice vt2 voice clips or bardin singing, and the wilder voice previews from DT or some ogryn slapping. A second post for funny poo poo to be added as it pops up?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Bussamove posted:


E: some of the career write-ups could use a little love. More info on what their active skill does, IB’s soak of a hit via Gromril Armor, etc.

I might need some help with this, I don’t have time to write up that Much detail, if you want you can write it and I’ll add it.

bagrada posted:

Swap out the playtest into for pre-order early access on steam but not game pass, mention no crossplay, add the premium vt2 careers to everyone but Sienna. Maybe mention the free VT2 and sale on dlc if that is still going.

Optional but maybe add some funny videos like some choice vt2 voice clips or bardin singing, and the wilder voice previews from DT or some ogryn slapping. A second post for funny poo poo to be added as it pops up?

Ok will do, I’ll make adjustments to the main post and add the funny videos the second post, it would help a lot if you have me a good list of them to add and I’ll add it

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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For the OP:


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518372933454790666/1031415591547969587/bonk_Trim.mp4

I can help with standardizing images/headers for the sections, I'll try and get something done for sections and classes between tonight and tomorrow.

Edmond Dantes fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Nov 8, 2022

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Edmond Dantes posted:

For the OP:



https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518372933454790666/1031415591547969587/bonk_Trim.mp4

I can help with standardizing images/headers for the sections, I'll try and get something done for sections and classes between tonight and tomorrow.

Sounds great! Will be waiting for it

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEtIiwAMMvE

Anyway regarding dlc, basically all the content dlc is really good besides Winds of Magic, don't loving recommend Winds of Magic and if anyone tells you it's not as bad as you think, it absolutely is as bad as you think it is.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Al-Saqr posted:

Ok will do, I’ll make adjustments to the main post and add the funny videos the second post, it would help a lot if you have me a good list of them to add and I’ll add it

I'll dig some up tonight after work but pretty much Bardin singing with anyone, and these for starters:

Gay Rat Wedding posted:

For anyone who hasn't heard the best conversation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0gSov73UDE

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dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Edmond Dantes posted:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/518372933454790666/1031415591547969587/bonk_Trim.mp4

I can help with standardizing images/headers for the sections, I'll try and get something done for sections and classes between tonight and tomorrow.

I hadn't seen this yet and its amazing.

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