Balkans watch

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redneck nazgul: Apr 25, 2013

Smythe posted:

half these nations combined have the gdp of like Fresno. I say let them go to war, for my amusement! mwahahahha. die! die!!

p sure all these nations would kick fresno's rear end

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:51

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Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

redneck nazgul posted:

p sure all these nations would kick fresno's rear end

I wouldn�t be so sure

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:52

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

does anyone else sing "Kosovo" to the tune of "Kokomo"?

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:53

Calibanibal: Aug 25, 2015

catch these balkans

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:54

redneck nazgul: Apr 25, 2013

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

does anyone else sing "Kosovo" to the tune of "Kokomo"?

this was literally a rush limbaugh joke in the 90s because clinton was bombing it to distract from his many scandals

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:55

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

you�re allowed to bomb or incite war in the balkans whenever you want. it�s legal and encouraged even. those freaks over there can�t get enough of it. you�ll get a heart emoji for every landmine you leave behind.

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:57

Justin Tyme: Feb 22, 2011

fresno IS calyfjornya!!!!

# ? Aug 8, 2022 16:58

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https://youtu.be/bwDrHqNZ9lo

# ? Aug 8, 2022 19:25

Pepe Silvia Browne: Jan 1, 2007

redneck nazgul posted:

this was literally a rush limbaugh joke in the 90s because clinton was bombing it to distract from his many scandals

But do you do it in your head?

# ? Aug 8, 2022 20:20

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Man Musk posted:

just a dash of antisemitism in the op because it is the balkans and it is ironic for a region with a history of pogroms, and not because the op is antisemitic and needs to be rescued from time to time in QCS 🤌

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Ha haa!

# ? Aug 10, 2022 21:40

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I did not hold his Balkans! Now his Balkans all dusty!

# ? Aug 10, 2022 22:07

Grevling: Dec 18, 2016

redneck nazgul posted:

this was literally a rush limbaugh joke in the 90s because clinton was bombing it to distract from his many scandals

Norwegian troops stationed there made a music video out of it which I remember watching online as a little kid.

# ? Aug 10, 2022 22:10

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

I don't know what's going on but I hope the Yugoslavs will finally get their own state as president Wilson hoped.

# ? Aug 10, 2022 22:48

War and Pieces: Apr 24, 2022; DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

genericnick posted:

I don't know what's going on but I hope the Yugoslavs will finally get their own state as president Wilson hoped.

If they get a Wilsonian State then so do the Armenians

# ? Aug 11, 2022 02:25

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

War and Pieces posted:

If they get a Wilsonian State then so do the Armenians

Wilsony State of Mind

# ? Aug 11, 2022 02:46

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forkboy84 posted:

Maybe they just want Andorra.

Should have included the former Yugoslav states though, those would be some good numbers.

Who are the Brits who think a neighbour owns their land? 23% want Ireland back or something?

Calais?

# ? Aug 11, 2022 04:38

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

quote:

Lily Lynch, Useful Spectres � Sidecar]In the EU-NATO protectorate of Kosovo, a small bureaucratic matter just provoked a spasm of violence. It was practically a routine occurrence, but trigger-happy Cold Warriors were quick to announce the beginning of a new Balkan war. The threat of a new conflict in the Balkans � to be instigated by Russia in concert with its Orthodox brothers in Serbia � has proven to be a useful spectre for the West, used to justify NATO expansion, distended budgets and the continued presence of the so-called international community. But it has also proven useful for Russia, allowing Moscow to claim that it still has a best friend in Europe, even as Belgrade moves quietly towards the West.

# ? Aug 14, 2022 17:09

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Cerebral Bore posted:

what im wondering is what piece of clay them swedes are hankering for

they had konigsberg for like 10 months in the 1600s and they want it back

# ? Aug 14, 2022 20:56

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

Cerebral Bore posted:

what im wondering is what piece of clay them swedes are hankering for

i bet it's Aland

# ? Aug 14, 2022 21:10

Man Musk: Jan 13, 2010

By request of Azathoth...

You have the main character of CSPAM making a thread and drawing a star of david as a swastika for a region that has nothing to do with Israel, and its most famous association with the Jewish people is genocide.

This is a recurring problem here, and not worth a 7-day probe to point out.

Episodes like this are why people are saying Animeistrash is a racist crybaby and Azathoth is a racist sack of poo poo...

Gas OP & try again

# ? Aug 17, 2022 23:18

Fortaleza: Feb 21, 2008

You're right, it's worth a probe way longer than 7 days

# ? Aug 17, 2022 23:37

TheLemonOfIchabod: Aug 26, 2008

what do we call balkanization after balkanization? balkanization^2? balkanibalkanization? balkbalkinization?

# ? Aug 17, 2022 23:41

F Stop Fitzgerald: Dec 12, 2010

Man Musk posted:

By request of Azathoth...

You have the main character of CSPAM making a thread and drawing a star of david as a swastika for a region that has nothing to do with Israel, and its most famous association with the Jewish people is genocide.

This is a recurring problem here, and not worth a 7-day probe to point out.

Episodes like this are why people are saying Animeistrash is a racist crybaby and Azathoth is a racist sack of poo poo...

Gas OP & try again

stfu bitch

# ? Aug 17, 2022 23:43

Fortaleza: Feb 21, 2008

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

stfu bitch

He's aggressively illiterate but not in an entertaining or endearing way like the basketball loving dude, dunno why we keep him around at all.

# ? Aug 17, 2022 23:45

Cuttlefush: Jan 15, 2014; Gleichheit soll gedeihen

lmao man musk was serious

# ? Aug 17, 2022 23:45

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Russia speedrunning the Freedom Fries problem via proxy yet again. Hopefully they actually find a light at the end of the tunnel. God bless you Vladmir Putin, please log out forever and leave the reins of the country in the hands of your countrymen rather than the barrel of a gun.

PS: What the gently caress is a main character? Is that something that obsessive thread-dwellers call people who are a threat to their poasting turf? Do people realize that sounds like self-admitted nolo persona when they say that? Holy loving poo poo what a goddamn flag for a disorder.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 03:48

Lord of Pie: Mar 2, 2007

forkboy84 posted:

Maybe they just want Andorra.

Should have included the former Yugoslav states though, those would be some good numbers.

Who are the Brits who think a neighbour owns their land? 23% want Ireland back or something?

they want France back

# ? Aug 18, 2022 04:41

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

forkboy84 posted:

Maybe they just want Andorra.

Should have included the former Yugoslav states though, those would be some good numbers.

Who are the Brits who think a neighbour owns their land? 23% want Ireland back or something?

Rousillon is Spanish my friend.

For real though it's probably just Gibraltar.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 09:01

AnimeIsTrash: Jun 30, 2018

Man Musk posted:

By request of Azathoth...

You have the main character of CSPAM making a thread and drawing a star of david as a swastika for a region that has nothing to do with Israel, and its most famous association with the Jewish people is genocide.

This is a recurring problem here, and not worth a 7-day probe to point out.

Episodes like this are why people are saying Animeistrash is a racist crybaby and Azathoth is a racist sack of poo poo...

Gas OP & try again

Both flags represent the same thing OP.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 19:06

Weka: May 5, 2019; That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Man Musk posted:

By request of Azathoth...

You have the main character of CSPAM making a thread and drawing a star of david as a swastika for a region that has nothing to do with Israel, and its most famous association with the Jewish people is genocide.

This is a recurring problem here, and not worth a 7-day probe to point out.

Episodes like this are why people are saying Animeistrash is a racist crybaby and Azathoth is a racist sack of poo poo...

Gas OP & try again

I'm reporting the democrats must be destroyed thread because it has a "piss" tag and piss is clearly more of a Trump thing and the democrats are trying to genocide piss fetishists, starting with ~~our~~ their leader.

# ? Aug 18, 2022 20:16

Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1561365779324493824

wth is israel doing

# ? Aug 22, 2022 10:38

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1561365779324493824

wth is israel doing

summary for the few cspammers who don�t subscribe to haaretz?

# ? Aug 22, 2022 12:44

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

AnimeIsTrash posted:

this is our man on the street

https://twitter.com/GunterFehlinger/status/1547199751191420928

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo

# ? Aug 22, 2022 13:18

Doomtalker: Dec 10, 2019

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1561365779324493824

wth is israel doing

Part of the justification for Israel existing is that Jews are not wanted in the rest of the world, particularly Europe. If laws are passed in Europe to protect Jewish people and make them equal, then the boot might have to come off the Palestinian necks, and Israel has a vested interest in that not happening.

# ? Aug 22, 2022 13:37

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3: Nov 15, 2003

It's awesome.

# ? Aug 22, 2022 13:46

Honest Thief: Jan 11, 2009

mawarannahr posted:

summary for the few cspammers who don�t subscribe to haaretz?

i can c/p it, but israel is intervening for a croat politician who recently honored Usta�e

quote:

With only two months left before the general election in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Israel threw a diplomatic bomb into an already heated Bosnian election debate.

A memorandum by the Israeli Embassy in Tirana, leaked to the media in early August, shocked observers by supporting a highly disputed electoral reform proposal favored by a far-right Bosnian Croat political party. With it, Israel has formally endorsed the destructive policies of the governments of Croatia, Russia, and Hungary�s Prime Minister Victor Orban in the Balkan region.

The proposed law seeks to gerrymander the Bosnian election districts to over-represent the Bosnian Croat voters of the Croat Democratic Union (HDZ) in the House of Peoples � the upper chamber of the Bosnian Parliament.

The law, as designed, will disenfranchise all non-HDZ voters in the country�s Federation entity, who would have less influence in the upper chamber. But its chief purpose is to diminish the electoral power of Bosniak voters, who would be prevented from voting for Croat representatives to the House of Peoples from parts of the Federation where Croats are in the minority. Bosniaks were the victims of genocide during the 1992-95 war, but still make up the majority of the population.

The memorandum has outraged the non-HDZ voters as well as the political leaders who seek the reforms necessary to ensure Bosnia operates as a democratic country that allows equal political participation to all of its citizens, including Bosnian Jews, Roma, and those who do not want to declare their ethnic status.

Jakob Finci, the recently retired president of Bosnia�s Jewish community, declared himself �astonished� that Israel�s first ever act of interference in Bosnian internal affairs was not to help the local Jewish community, nor at its request, but to give partisan aid one specific political party in the country.

The messy aftermath of the embassy memorandum needs to be urgently managed by the caretaker Israeli government. Israel�s unwelcomed meddling has created a backlash among a Muslim-majority population which has a well-documented history of centuries of living together in peace with Jews. Sephardic Jews who fled to Bosnia in the 15th century after being expelled from Spain, during the period of the Inquisition, have been fully integrated into Bosnia�s historically multi-confessional society, and � in the case of Sarajevo � lived integrated lives without ever having been confined to a ghetto.

Jewish leaders across the world stood with the Bosniaks when they were targeted for extermination by the Serb nationalists. The Bosnian Jewish community provided numerous Bosniaks, Serbs, Croats and other Bosnian citizens with safe passage out of Sarajevo during the 1992-1995 siege, and many remain grateful to the Jewish communal groups, La Benevolencija and the Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, for their humanitarian programs: parcels of food and medicines provided to thousands of people.

Clearly, the Israeli government has little understanding of the history of HDZ, the Bosnian Croat political party it chose to support. HDZ-run municipalities have numerous streets named after important figures who served in the Nazi-puppet Independent State of Croatia (NDH).

In the recent past, the HDZ leadership have lionized convicted war criminals and cozied up to Putin�s Russia. Their partnership with ultra-nationalist (and genocide-denying) Serbs, led by Milorad Dodik�s Alliance of Independent Social Democrats (SNSD), is focused on obstructing the implementation of the European Court of Human Rights rulings in the Sejdic-Finci and Zornic cases that affirmed the right of Jewish and Roma citizens to run for key political positions in Bosnia.

The visits last month to Yad Vashem, Israel�s national Holocaust memorial, by Dragan Covic, president of the HDZ, as well as by Milorad Dodik, were attempts to gaslight the Israeli public and a highly respected Israeli institution by Bosnia�s most nationalistic and reactionary political actors. Covic�s party voted against renaming street names glorifying Nazi collaborators, sympathizers and apologists in HDZ-controlled municipalities, and has recently even honored fallen fascist Ustasha soldiers, who served the Third Reich, near Mostar.

Jewish genocide scholar, Menachem Rosensaft, has called Dodik an �ultranationalist Serb genocide denier� on the pages of Haaretz. Still, parts of Israeli political establishment have chosen to cooperate with Dodik, who is under U.S. and UK sanctions for violating the Dayton peace accords.

As Bosnian Jewish leader Jakob Finci suspects, Covic and Dodik managed to persuade or manipulate Israel�s foreign policy bureaucracy to work against the interests of even the Jewish community in Bosnia.

Finci called the leaked memorandum �contradictory� and claimed that it was �either the result of successful lobbying or confusion,� and went as far as to accuse the Israeli government of standing in opposition to the interests of the Jewish community in Bosnia.

Bisera Turkovic, the Bosnian foreign minister, herself of Jewish heritage, rightly demarched the Israeli government demanding an explanation. But Prime Minister Yair Lapid�s government is yet to respond. That silence, after such striking interference, threatens to subject Israel to accusations of utter contempt and disrespect for the Bosnian government.

Israeli officials should take into account the words of the head of the Association of Former Prison Camp Inmates in Mostar, Emir Hajdarovic, who wrote to the Israeli Ambassador Noah Gal Gendler, in the wake of the leaked memo. Hajdarovic noted that those who oppose the idea of ethnically �cleansed� regions � particularly in in the area of Mostar and Herzegovina � �were pained by the fact that you supported exactly such an idea.�

Rather than pushing Bosnian Muslims, who have never persecuted Jews, into becoming enemies of Israel, the Israeli government should focus its efforts on shaming the municipalities run by Dodik and Covic�s to stop glorifying the Nazis� Ustasha and Chetnik allies.

Antagonizing a Muslim-majority nation in Europe with long history of protecting Jews and Jewish heritage cannot be in Israel�s interests. As the Bosnian-Israeli opera vocalist Margit Tomik-Levy wrote in her open letter to Ambassador Gendler � Israel�s representative throughout the Balkan region from Tirana, Albania � the memorandum �spits in the face of all democratically oriented citizens of BiH, including all Bosnian Jews.�

Now is time for the Israeli government to issue a public apology to the Bosnian government and its public. Without one, Israel risks causing irreparable harm in its relationship with both Bosnia�s Muslims and Jews.

Honest Thief has issued a correction as of 14:54 on Aug 22, 2022

# ? Aug 22, 2022 14:44

Broken Box: Jan 29, 2009

eyyyyy I'm balkan here!

# ? Aug 22, 2022 15:43

Fast Luck: Feb 2, 1988

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1561365779324493824

wth is israel doing

https://twitter.com/jh_swanson/status/1561455499341602818

Israel is an anti-semitic Nazi state.

# ? Aug 22, 2022 18:24

The Atomic Man-Boy: Jul 23, 2007

I love how wherever there is a movement anywhere in the world to reduce racism, religious, racial or ethnic strife, Israel is there to oppose it.

As the world's only Jewish state, I'm certain it will never bite them in the rear end.

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PERPETUAL IDIOT: Sep 12, 2003

Honest Thief posted:

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1561365779324493824

wth is israel doing

Not gonna quote the whole article but haw haw haw at the tone being "Noble Israeli professional diplomats tricked by the Wily Croat into supporting far-right nazis"

# ? Aug 23, 2022 12:13

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