a few DRUNK BONERS posted:We should learn how to eat rocks and sunlight solar panels let us eat hydroponically, not sure about rocks but you can probably figure it out op
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tokin opposition posted:solar panels let us eat hydroponically, not sure about rocks but you can probably figure it out op you have to make the rocks think to turn them into solar panels
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Aug 9, 2022 05:53
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tokin opposition posted:isn't that a good thing? are there other times when the threat has communism has lead to good things and can we use this somehow in other contexts? In the moment yeah, it definitely helped the U.S. in the Cold War.
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Aug 9, 2022 06:01
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it has been nice to make some pickles, because you can get the cheap mediocre vegetables when they're in season and turn them into a tasty treat also like you don't need to them shipped and it's a low energy food-preservation method or whatever
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Aug 9, 2022 06:11
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tokin opposition posted:smythe is semen vegan yes or no we had this discussion b4 and i forget what the resolution was
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Aug 9, 2022 06:22
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There are people whose job is to masturbate turkeys, collect the semen, and then inject it into female turkeys.
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Aug 9, 2022 06:26
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but I'd do it for free B)
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Aug 9, 2022 06:31
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Aug 9, 2022 06:56
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tokin opposition posted:isn't that a good thing? are there other times when the threat has communism has lead to good things and can we use this somehow in other contexts?
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Aug 9, 2022 07:13
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https://twitter.com/sovietvisuals/status/1556886493255254016?t=uwq-OJHFz9_RwO6pdIItTQ&s=19
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Aug 9, 2022 07:39
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I always insist we need to collectivize the farm, and then my ADC gets mad for some reason
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Aug 9, 2022 07:47
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They don't even bother to put fences around fields lol
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Aug 9, 2022 07:49
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i tried to germinate rice from the store but couldn't figure it out
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Aug 9, 2022 12:04
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A Buttery Pastry posted:the green revolution destroyed the earth How do?
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Aug 9, 2022 15:25
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How did the communists do it?
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Aug 9, 2022 15:25
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tokin opposition posted:How do? Reliance on oil. Attempting to reduce oil consumption will just affect food security. The green revolution just kicked the can down the road.
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Aug 9, 2022 16:06
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err posted:Reliance on oil.
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Aug 9, 2022 17:53
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A Buttery Pastry posted:not just oil, but also every derived effect from increasing food production, such as making agricultural lands less and less productive. we're hurtling towards towards a scenario where we've increased food demand, but reduced the carrying capacity of the earth to well below where it used to be. So for example, 10 billion people on a planet that can now comfortably support 1 billion, rather than 4 billion on a planet that could comfortably support 3 billion. I agree. People often mistake these arguments as pro-malthusian or something. But it's simply a result of new technologies rapidly entering the agricultural space and finding out we overextended later on.
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Aug 9, 2022 18:48
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A Buttery Pastry posted:not just oil, but also every derived effect from increasing food production, such as making agricultural lands less and less productive. we're hurtling towards towards a scenario where we've increased food demand, but reduced the carrying capacity of the earth to well below where it used to be. So for example, 10 billion people on a planet that can now comfortably support 1 billion, rather than 4 billion on a planet that could comfortably support 3 billion. err posted:Reliance on oil. Well then, What Is To Be Done?
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Aug 9, 2022 18:51
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tokin opposition posted:Well then, What Is To Be Done? Centralized government able to react and respond to changing conditions in a rapidly warming world. Experts know things like feedlots and farming in a desert shouldn't exist, but there is no political power to stop it. I started farming locally but I know this isn't available to everyone and is simply a coping strategy for many people.
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Aug 9, 2022 19:03
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tokin opposition posted:Well then, What Is To Be Done? the answer is literally mtw
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Aug 9, 2022 19:04
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maybe we could make like a mobile app for growing, harvesting and processing food
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Aug 9, 2022 19:10
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ben shapino posted:maybe we could make like a mobile app for growing, harvesting and processing food i'll start the wiki
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ben shapino posted:maybe we could make like a mobile app for growing, harvesting and processing food Fudr
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A Buttery Pastry posted:not just oil, but also every derived effect from increasing food production, such as making agricultural lands less and less productive. we're hurtling towards towards a scenario where we've increased food demand, but reduced the carrying capacity of the earth to well below where it used to be. So for example, 10 billion people on a planet that can now comfortably support 1 billion, rather than 4 billion on a planet that could comfortably support 3 billion. err posted:I agree. People often mistake these arguments as pro-malthusian or something. But it's simply a result of new technologies rapidly entering the agricultural space and finding out we overextended later on. err posted:Centralized government able to react and respond to changing conditions in a rapidly warming world. Hypothetically what do you think a strong centralized government should do as a reaction to a world that it (the government) believes can only support 1/10th of the current world population
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Aug 9, 2022 19:45
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The Oldest Man posted:Hypothetically what do you think a strong centralized government should do as a reaction to a world that it (the government) believes can only support 1/10th of the current world population
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Aug 9, 2022 19:51
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tokin opposition posted:isn't that a good thing? are there other times when the threat has communism has lead to good things and can we use this somehow in other contexts? this is what they mean when they say that competition breeds innovation. in a globally competitive marketplace of ideas, capitalism is forced to compete with communism, and has to do good things in addition to torture, murder, etc.
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Aug 9, 2022 19:54
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Kill everyone over 30. Ok I think gets you less than half-way, who else do you kill e: is state mandated cannibalism an option
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Aug 9, 2022 19:55
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To be clear, the creation of the mechanisms of control required for state mandated cannibalism present a clear and present danger to the community interest and bodily autonomy of the people. Once the bureaus and departments of human harvesting distribution are created, and their halls populated with careerist cannibureaucrats, how will the state react when confronted with a new problem? With more cannibalism of course. That is the way of the cannibal-state. That's why I think it makes more sense to adopt anarcho-cannibalism where everyone just freestyle hunts and eats each other
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Aug 9, 2022 20:11
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Smythe posted:the answer is literally mtw that's right.
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Aug 9, 2022 20:17
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how would food be produced under mtw?
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The Oldest Man posted:Hypothetically what do you think a strong centralized government should do as a reaction to a world that it (the government) believes can only support 1/10th of the current world population International cooperation is all we can do and hope for. We are going to get major disruptions to food security regardless.
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Aug 9, 2022 20:27
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The Oldest Man posted:To be clear, the creation of the mechanisms of control required for state mandated cannibalism present a clear and present danger to the community interest and bodily autonomy of the people. Once the bureaus and departments of human harvesting distribution are created, and their halls populated with careerist cannibureaucrats, how will the state react when confronted with a new problem? With more cannibalism of course. That is the way of the cannibal-state.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFaY13f6UI0
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Corporate farms, but they're state owned. Also the animals are happier for some reason
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Force the proles to go vegan or eat grubs.
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Effort post: This is something I have been giving a lot of thought to in the past few years. Strong community helps so much. Both with physical safety, but also labor, food, all your basic needs. Amish people all coming together to build a barn in a day, etc. Neighbor farm with milk cows has excess manure that you can take to grow vegetables. One person's crop failure can be supported by their neighbors so they do not starve. This year (or was it last year) my partner and I purchased 90 acres in a subtropical region where they are a citizen. Long term plans(5-10 years): We plan for solar + nickel iron batteries (non-hazardous). The batteries are heavy, and take up space (in a house it doesn't matter as much vs as in a car), so you just build a shed to store them. They can last 60+ years if well maintained, and uses an electrolyte of potassium. You can dump old batteries on your farm and its literally fertilizer. A well, rain water catchment tanks, and a series of swales and small ponds for drinking water and irrigation. Sand charcoal gravel water filter for drinking?(not sure about that) Plan to stock the ponds with tilapia. Composting toilets, and a septic tank for sewage. Reed beds using biodegradable soap with a grease trap, for kitchen and laundry waste water. Set aside 10+ acres to grow sunflowers for the oil. Use the oil to make biodiesel for a small 4x4 pickup truck to be your transportation. Maybe an electric ATV for shorter travel distances. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtj6ktUVjac HAM radio, cell phones, satellite internet for communication. Permaculture, food forest, agroforestry for our fruit and vegetable gardens. Integrating livestock to eat and clear weeds, along with their manure to fertilize. Fish that are in the ponds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEBelPUM8tA e: I forgot, my in-laws have already hung up 20 bee hives in the trees. Can't wait to move there permanently! Fozzy The Bear has issued a correction as of 23:35 on Aug 9, 2022 |
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guess ill b hitting up ur place with my ar15 and rest of the cannibal crew when the rich start running out
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Aug 10, 2022 00:38
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you got us penn jillette, only the market can sustain humanity
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The Oldest Man posted:Hypothetically what do you think a strong centralized government should do as a reaction to a world that it (the government) believes can only support 1/10th of the current world population Is it the planet that can only support 1/10th of the population or is it our technology? China just invented rice that can grow in sea water, I bet there are technological innovations that could theoretically help sustain that amount of people.
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