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Guy A. Person posted:I'm actually extremely curious about the next X-Men film because it seems like people have made it into this big "break glass in case of emergency" guaranteed mega-hit to save the MCU despite the fact that the X-Men films have never exactly been box office juggernauts (pun partially intended). The highest grossing movies of the entire franchise are DoFP and the two Deadpools and even those are barely passing stuff like the mid-range Phase 2 MCU stuff and topping out under the Guardians movies and basically anything from MCU Phase 3. Uncle Boogeyman posted:that’s a cannibal movie, homie. always bet on a cannibal movie. Anyway, y'all motherfuckers need Da Sweet Blood of Jesus.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Only Lovers Left Alive was pretty good. It was aight.
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Halloween Jack posted:Anyway, y'all motherfuckers need Da Sweet Blood of Jesus. i feel like i've only ever heard this described as "Ganja and Hess, but not as good" so i kind of just stuck with Ganja and Hess
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i feel like i've only ever heard this described as "Ganja and Hess, but not as good" so i kind of just stuck with Ganja and Hess Spike Lee made a safer version.
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I don't really disagree, but I thought it was like 90-95% as good, and an A- remake of G&H is still among the best of a bad lot. If I could only see DSBoJ or Dracula Untold...
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Smh that all the people talking about how there hasn't been a good vampire movie since Blade have forgotten that Blade 2 exists.
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Remulak posted:There were some AMC showings in Dolby Cinema, which is Atmos and a better image than digital IMAX*, and the people I know that saw it were blown away. I might set up my surround system again when it gets to streaming. That’s how I saw it and it ruled. Mixed thought generally positive feelings on the movie but it’ll never be that good again
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BiggerBoat posted:I haven't watched What If at all but isn't the entirety of the MCU right now just a big "What If?" anyways? Given the time travel and the dimensions and the multiverse this and retcon that where death is trivial, where's the payoff where "what if this other thing happened?" Eh, not really. Sure, they've done some alternate universe stuff in Loki and Dr. Strange 2, but they're just concepts. There's no story to the Illuminati's existence other than setting up some cannon fodder, giving us some fanservice, and showing off how different this world is. The Loki variants never got a chance to be anything except for potentially interesting ideas who were immediately cut down by the TVA. What If plays with the events and characters of the MCU and twists them into interesting directions to try and tell a bunch of short stories. Short stories that funnel into a season-ending crossover, but that's Marvel being Marvel. Sometimes the stories are just existing MCU movies with a bit of a twist (replace Steve Rogers with Peggy Carter or replace Thor with Hela), while some go into weirder directions like zombie apocalypse, murder mystery, Thor starring in a screwball party comedy, Avengers renfaire, Native Americans blowing up slave ships with the Tesseract, etc.
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Halloween Jack posted:I feel like it will inevitably be like BvS, where it can't be successful enough to meet whatever projected gross the management comes up with. Nah, they’re treating Deadpool like the second coming of Christ and it’s going to totally gently caress the MCU. They’ve been talking about how to handle it since before Ant Man came out and it’s totally shifted from a fun Wolverine Deadpool buddy cop movie to yet another multiverse movie where they try to go as far as to reshoot Xmen 3 scenes? Nah, they should split Deadpool up and disavow the Sony movies.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Smh that all the people talking about how there hasn't been a good vampire movie since Blade have forgotten that Blade 2 exists. no we didn't
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Chairman Capone posted:I think there have been more good vampire movies than zombie movies since Blade despite the consensus of this being the big zombie pop culture resurgence. I would personally go to bat for: Blade II, Let the Right One In (and even Let Me In, which is good but definitely redundant), Shadow of the Vampire, Byzantium, What We Do in the Shadows, and Only Lovers Left Alive. I'll also give props to the AHS season with Lady Gaga as the vampire queen and the vampire kids spreading super-mumps to all the LA anti-vaxxer moms, and the short NBC show where Jonathan Rhys Meyers imagined what it would be like if Dracula was Tesla. Wasn't good but at least was entertainingly weird and did something new. And obviously the WWDITS show. A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night says hi, although you possibly didn't read the subtitles. (It's Iranian.) Night Watch (Nochnoi Dozor) is also a vampire movie and sort of a superhero movie, and it loving rocks.
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Jedit posted:A Girl Walks Home Alone At Night says hi, although you possibly didn't read the subtitles. (It's Iranian.) This was good, and as an aside I loved the suburban skateboarding incongruent imagery stuff. quote:Night Watch (Nochnoi Dozor) is also a vampire movie and sort of a superhero movie, and it loving rocks. This was meh though maybe I need to reevaluate.
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Pillowpants posted:Nah, they’re treating Deadpool like the second coming of Christ and it’s going to totally gently caress the MCU. Deadpool works best when it is riffing on what is going on in the comic continuum rather than establishing it. That was half the fun of the Cable & Deadpool comics, especially when they had to deal with events like Civil War. The first movie is great because Deadpool is just a dumbass troll meandering among the peripheries of Marvel's and Reynolds' past movies while telling a story. If they are using it to bridge the MCU and X-Men universes together, then lmao.
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Non Compos Mentis posted:The more I hear about Deadpool 3, the less I want to see it They’re literally reshooting the end to have Magneto win and Phoenix/Scarlet Witch cause mega damage to the multiverse but from what I’ve been reading that’s how Deadpool 3 will end and not start. I hope these rumors aren’t true.
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It's genuinely funny that Disney, a media company that has been really good at diversifying it's output (They were the studio for Michael Moore's documentaries back in the day) and allowing smaller brands under the umbrella to do their own thing, are now completely terrified of that same idea and are trying to keep everything under the one continuity. It's gone from the key benefit (look! all your favourite action figures in the one movie!) to a liability, trying to paste together movies that don't relate to each other at all.
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Say what you will about Michael Eisner, but he was the guy who got Disney to invest in Miramax, ABC, and make ties with Paramount. 
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They try to do the worst of both worlds now, diversifying but trying to keep everything under the same Branding, while still neglecting or actively burying the stuff that actually succeeds specifically because it does something different.
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ImpAtom posted:Renfield was a terrible vampire movie but a fantastic Vampire Survivor game! Renfield was so bad and it makes me angry how much they wasted such good potential. Robert Kirkman is poo poo.
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My most controversial take on Disney is that their last good movie was John Carter. It ruled, and I needed more of Lynn Collins' badass, blade-wielding Dejah Thoris.
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The MCU format worked really well for a long time, but it seems like it's run its course as the unstoppable juggernaut it was. I can't imagine many of its movies truly flopping, they will if they keep putting the insane amount of money they used to be justified in putting forward. 500 million for the third and fourth Avengers movies was insane but you could see the logic. 200 million for Antman, though.
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Snowman_McK posted:The MCU format worked really well for a long time, but it seems like it's run its course as the unstoppable juggernaut it was. I can't imagine many of its movies truly flopping, they will if they keep putting the insane amount of money they used to be justified in putting forward. 500 million for the third and fourth Avengers movies was insane but you could see the logic. 200 million for Antman, though. And all for movies that look like poo poo. The pipeline process made them completely lose any concept of budget discipline. It seems to happen with long running franchises a lot.
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sticking with the formula of, character faces off against iconic villain, iconic villain is killed never to return, probably isnt doing them any favours either it makes have the underwater prison The Raft even stupider than it normally is, in the comics its a prison for super powered villains, in the MCU it held 4 avengers, 3 of them that are just normal people without their gadgets, who didnt agree with the registration act
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I hated John Carter I saw that poo poo twice just to double check because people were over the moon about it. It was so dull. Do not get the love, sorry
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And all for movies that look like poo poo. The pipeline process made them completely lose any concept of budget discipline. It seems to happen with long running franchises a lot. That the movies look like poo poo has always been the biggest sticking point for me with MCU stuff. When I first saw the first Avengers trailer I was flabbergasted at how a big budget movie looked like a network sitcom. I think it was the lighting, but all the movies have this bland, washed out greyness to them. Like the visual inspiration for them all was "a carpark on a cloudy day". But even then, a washed out grey look could work, but it's not really a creative choice, just the quick, easy option. At least Michael Bay movies put the money up on the screen, hell, AmbuLAnce had a relatively small budget compared to cape films and it looked amazing.
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Snowman_McK posted:The MCU format worked really well for a long time, but it seems like it's run its course as the unstoppable juggernaut it was. I can't imagine many of its movies truly flopping, they will if they keep putting the insane amount of money they used to be justified in putting forward. 500 million for the third and fourth Avengers movies was insane but you could see the logic. 200 million for Antman, though. The Marvels made 197 million (80 million domestic) against a 275 million budget. That is a literal 200 million dollar bomb. They have already produced one of the biggest flops of all time.
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I thought and still think Iron Man looked good, and felt similarly about Hulk. Iron Man 2 is where things took a turn for me, and then Thor pretty much killed my interest. I couldn't believe that a Kenneth Branagh movie given the colorful space opera setting of Jack Kirby's Asgard could result in something so insipid and banal. I guess I was expecting something on the level of Hamlet's display of creativity and excess.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And all for movies that look like poo poo. The pipeline process made them completely lose any concept of budget discipline. It seems to happen with long running franchises a lot. Churning each CGI team into dust with endless re-imagined shots, only to hire a new digital sweatshop for the next blockbuster, is maybe not the best long-term plan.
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Space Fish posted:Churning each CGI team into dust with endless re-imagined shots, only to hire a new digital sweatshop for the next blockbuster, is maybe not the best long-term plan. It destroyed the VFX industry. I know 2 people who quit in the 2010s. They were both pros with around 20 years of experience. That's why modern movies look worse than flicks from a decade ago. All the good people quit or got snapped up by James Cameron. Everybody else gets churned and burned newbies.
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garycoleisgod posted:I think it was the lighting, but all the movies have this bland, washed out greyness to them. Like the visual inspiration for them all was "a carpark on a cloudy day". But even then, a washed out grey look could work, but it's not really a creative choice, just the quick, easy option. This is due to studio executives lacking any artistic or creative skill and wildly misinterpreting audience criticisms. When Whedon took over Justice League, the studio felt that the best way to combat the criticisms of BvS being "too dark" was to change the time of day of the final battle from dramatic night to an evenly-lit overcast afternoon. Because they have no way of conceiving tone or content, and only understand that movies are a series of images that make money.
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Non Compos Mentis posted:executives are a superstitious, cowardly lot So my disguise must be able to strike terror into their hearts. I must be a creature of the night, black, terrible... /sews together a Rotten Tomatoes green splat costume
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