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Captain Splendid posted:Matt Smith's real voice sounds exactly like Iwan Rheon's fake voice Yeah, I found it funny, he fine so far, he plays a good dickhead with a void inside them and pulls off the inbred look.
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Jerusalem posted:The way Daemon's #2 was just seemingly randomly pointing to dudes in the throng of captured citizens and screaming out the name of crimes, I assumed the whole thing was pure theater and a bunch of potentially innocent people were being dismembered or outright murdered. Probably. The show is pretty explicit that the whole system is pretty hosed up and the whole absolute monarchist thing with all leadership being decided by luck of the genetic lottery or what family is in charge is pretty obvious.
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Aug 22, 2022 12:32
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QuoProQuid posted:The sets and costume design are very impressive and I'm cool with a slow build. My main problem is that, by virtue of this being a prequel, I know that whatever these characters will inevitably fail. I mean kinda. The whole book is basically an unreliable in universe text about how the targs took over and then basically destroyed themselves to the point that there were no dragons by the time of Dany and the family was easy enough to deposed. Like so far, I think the show will be pretty solid and it helps that they have a completed story that they can play with and tweak which they are clearly going to do. Part of the reason got poo poo the bed was partly they ran out of material outside notes and partly because dnd didn’t give a gently caress anymore and were fine making GBS threads out whatever because they thought they would be making bigger stuff like Star Wars, which died in the crib because they crash landed the series.
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Aug 22, 2022 14:22
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thebardyspoon posted:Well it seemed relatively squared away until the events in this episode, they're kinda resolved to Daemon being the king with the distant hope that the son gets born and survives, they all hope out loud it'll happen but internally probably doubt it. Then when the son dies, the council are like "well, I guess we have to poo poo or get off the pot now then?" and have the hasty meeting that doesn't go particularly well where they poo poo talk Daemon. Then Hightowers report of what Daemon said in the brothel sets the cat amongst the pigeons and makes the king change his choice of heir. i suspect daemon knows he can't just come back when his bro dies or is old and force him him to make him king or marry or some poo poo.
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Aug 22, 2022 19:31
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Crapilicious posted:I really enjoy that the way Fire and Blood is written is that it's a history written by in-universe historians and so by definition has bias and blind spots, and so while technically book spoilers do exist, there's still a lot that has not been explained or covered that will be in the show. Did GRRM deliberately do it this way so that the inevitable show would still have some mystery? Probably. It's certainly got me hooked. yeah thats why i liked it. like the text very much goes "ok so i have three sources on this whole horror show, one supports one side, one supports the other and one kinda shits on both sides but really liked the queen and is written by a little person who pretended to be developmentally disabled and had a huge cock".
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Aug 28, 2022 03:33
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Pennsylvanian posted:Fire and Blood is an interesting book to discuss, but would not be very interesting for many people to read. Prose-wise, it's something that George could write out quickly. The way it reads is very: "This happened. Then this happened. Later, this happened..." There's a neat part later in the book where the "historian" writing it introduces two conflicting accounts, but what makes F&B interesting is that it's full of weird (intentional) inconsistencies that are meant to fuel conspiracy theories. yeah, i think the biggest issue i have with the book is that it can be a slog and that some parts flow better then the others. like its a narrative history book obviously so its supposed to kinda flesh the world out and i think it does a good job setting the stage for the dance of dragons which is about the last third of the book. i think it works well enough as a plot set up because we have a full story with a beginning and ending but alot of the events are shrouded in mystery or vague/inconsistent so they can get to that point. its also so far made the characters more "realized" but thats kinda of a low bar. i like fantasy that tends to be "grounded" which is why i like grrms world(though his writing is mixed) and the witcher and i guess 40k since thats sorta counts.
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Aug 28, 2022 23:21
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Crapilicious posted:He's just not meant to look kingly. This. The guy just wants to play with his minis and I feel like the curb your enthusiasm theme should be playing during half his interaction. Basically he is king goon. Blind Pineapple posted:Seems like the show is making a point to emphasize the extreme misogyny of Westeros in a way that GoT didn't. GoT had a lot of explicit rape and violence against women sure, but seemed to try to offset it with some strong women leaders. HoD really hammers home how second-class women are in all aspects of society. Yeah I am happy that it didn’t go full sexpostion again. Like yeah sometimes it worked sorta but not all evil against ladies has to be shown as graphic rape. Toplowtech posted:LOL i would say "come to the spoiler thread you coward" but yeah a lot of people watching this show seem to believe that it's going to be about a civil war between Rhaenyra and Daemon. Extreme LMAO. The truth is even funnier: half the cast of characters for this war aren't born yet. Yeah. It’s interesting. Lots of red herrings so far.
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Aug 29, 2022 13:01
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sure okay posted:Typical Targ hypocrisy for Rhaenyra to first shrug her shoulders at her 12 year old cousin getting shotgun married to her dad, going "Well, he is the king after all!" And then walking out in a huff when it's actually her friend getting married instead. Boy are you in for a wild ride.
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Aug 29, 2022 17:53
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Vegetable posted:I don’t think they did enough to foreshadow the Alicent marriage. I mean they’ve been spending time together but this is clearly one of those major twists where it’s Love over Duty and they haven’t done nearly enough to signal the depth of the relationship between the two. idk if its love. its more like "well at least this girl is a little older and enjoy her company instead of some kid who will just read out lines that her dad told her, both are the case sure but allicent does it better.
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Aug 29, 2022 19:02
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Vegetable posted:Also I don’t understand how Gold Cloaks is like an actual mobile army that you can just up and move to Dragonstone. Aren’t they the equivalent of city police? i mean so is the NYPD/CPD/giant city police department.
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Aug 29, 2022 21:29
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Paracaidas posted:
i mean he is also a goon playing with his minis hoping for the best. personally i just like him because i just keep hearing this in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM
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Aug 30, 2022 16:08
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I AM GRANDO posted:Should I read the books? I watched every episode of the show and was able to get through them all. of house of the dragon? its only one book and id recommend the audio book because its dry loving read at times and having it read you by some old british dude helps it alot. the game of thrones books a good but alot of the stuff isnt in the show or different from the show which is either better or worse depending on the thing.
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Sep 2, 2022 15:38
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bobjr posted:Varys and Littlefinger are characters where we don't know their full plans in the books, so the show made them increasingly dumb in the later seasons. i am more mad about varys then littlefinger show wise. mostly because i found varys a interesting character and i liked him being shown as basically an extreamly hosed up altuist who backs who ever he thinks can actually make things better or at least less poo poo, then he bet wrong and that would have been an interesting story if it wasnt rushed. to me show littlefinger was a dude who managed to play a ton of morons/gullible people into loving each other over and also wants to gently caress the girl he had a crush on or at least maybe her kid. i dont fully mind the deteriotion because show littlefinger strikes me as someone who thinks he is always the smartest man in the room and everyone else is moron and eventually it bites him in the rear end. i just wish it was done way better. i like his death scene, its cathartic and gillian does a good job of showing some dude realizing he can't bullshit his way out of something and its dawning on him that he is super duper hosed. I actually liked the way the further North he went the fewer accomplices he had and the more isolated he looked. He extended his hand in order to gain more and simply went too far, tripped up, and was caught off guard with no escape route. then again, i also like slynt and ramsays death scenes so lol Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Sep 4, 2022 |
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Sep 4, 2022 03:40
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unlimited shrimp posted:This is an old argument for why the quality of GoT declined so starkly between the early and later seasons. I would also like more social commentary and less soap opera, but at least this time around the show hasn't promised anything more than palace intrigue from the jump. i dont mind this especially since once we get deeper into the dance it doesn't exactly follow narrative story conventions/tropes and i am curious how many people are gonna be pissed off by the ending.
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Sep 6, 2022 01:21
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bobjr posted:I'm just waiting for Mushroom wow, he even looks like king goon. whats his account name. ghouldaddy07 posted:I was hoping for Allicent Hightower nudity before the time skip. Not looking likely oh here he is. Barreft posted:His info keepers and writers of WOIAF and much of Fire and Blood are two massive nazis wernt they two goony broke brains who basicaly made all the minutia for this dumb world and then got real real mad when they made the valryons black and started posting the n word.
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Sep 7, 2022 15:55
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bobjr posted:Close up of Daemon trying to get hard but unable to. the scene director said its because he wanted it to be a power thing but she was into it so he buggered off. i more took at as a bit of that AND he also realized he couldn't just gently caress her as some weird spite against his brother. idk. it worked though. Roman Reigns posted:Yeah he definitely had the look on his face of running every single scenario in his head of how much of a bad idea this is. i like the face he gives he when he opens the door to king goons mini colection room its very "oh gently caress i hope he doesn't know or she doesnt spill". zoux posted:Oh I think he was thinking about it. He was thinking about a lot of poo poo. Rhaenyra just didn’t give a gently caress, Milly Alcock was great this episode. its there but its not andrian gillian swallowing air to shut down his accent while to models fake sex sound. speaking of sex sounds, i like that king goon is a goon in bed too.
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Sep 12, 2022 04:54
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wilderthanmild posted:Same. I am worried about the time jump and how jarring it might be. She's been so good it's going to be weird seeing a new actress do the character. i assume its after next episode.
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Sep 12, 2022 05:07
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unlimited shrimp posted:Am I bad at watching TV or are they approaching the whole GURMy grey morality thing by making the characters internally conflicted and morally messy? to me, otto isn't littlefinger or some palpatine type. he genuinely likes the king but he thinks the king is too soft to deal with his fuckhead brother and that the realm won't put up with a queen because Westeros is Westeros, he also wants to keep his job so he sends his daughter to get humped by king goon so he can have son that will be accepted.
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Sep 12, 2022 05:35
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Typo posted:it's stuff like this that convinces me D&D just wasn't trying anymore by S8 and just wanted to get it over with so they can move onto STAR WARS they very clearly wernt. they got the job because they guessed jons parents correctly and laid out a pretty good rundown of how they would adapt the books. the issue is they didnt know how to change once they ran out of books and make the scattered ideas work. they wanted to end the series fast and then lol. Typo posted:I thought Hold-the-door was the last good reveal of the show (IIRC this was post-melisandre) and one of the best scenes in the whole series period, like this was something very few people even in the fandom predicted pretty much. some of the deaths were cathartic like ramsay and the freys and to an extent littlefinger but even then it was never great or good.
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Sep 14, 2022 05:27
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Tender Bender posted:I just reread the wiki summaries of the last few seasons and forgot how much low-effort poo poo is in there. euron was hosed because too much of his character relied on poo poo that was never gonna be in the show because it was poo poo in the books or stuff barely mentioned in the books like the weird eldrich fantasy poo poo that exists on the perephery of the lore and world. they basicaly tried to make him another "guy you want to see die/hate" like joffery or Ramsey but he is just weird horny dickhead pirate who dies a lame rear end death. Typo posted:that eps also explicitly showed white northern soldiers raping king's landing unless I'm really misremembering yeah to the extent that jon got pissed and killed a bunch.
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Sep 15, 2022 00:28
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I AM GRANDO posted:I kind of enjoyed Ramsay as just a total maniac being performed as if he were a character on the Adam West Batman show. He’s the only character having a good time in many scenes. i mean recent years and current events have taught me hosed up cartoon monsters are real as people so i dont mind fuckers like ramsay, he is a short sighted mad dog who gets hard to hurting people and eventualy over reaches enough to lose and then gets his face torn off. sad they didn't show the alleged full uncensored version.
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Sep 15, 2022 04:51
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stev posted:Given that they had to explain the colour thing somehow I'm not too bothered that they have some gossipy bitches at a banquet explain it. I think daemon operates fully on the level of “gently caress it” and makes snap choices. I don’t think he went their fully intending to kill her but she called him on poo poo and then he caused her to get hosed up and then doubled down when she told him off.
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Sep 19, 2022 21:08
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Pattonesque posted:much like what happened with Criston Cole, the world has failed to live up to what she believed to be true, and it's ruined her. i like that alicent went through the arc that DnD tried to make sansa go through but actually well done and with out the awful rape scene and poo poo. i love how the show gets across westoros hosed up patriachle bullshit without constantly going for the rape card. least in the traditional sense. stev posted:I love the casting. She really sells the fact that she's the same person but has spent a decade stewing in paranoia, bitterness and fear. this. she looks like someone prematurely aged from stress and tired bullshit and making GBS threads out kids.
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Sep 27, 2022 17:10
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Pattonesque posted:The dude looked *extremely* terrifying and convincing laying about with a bardiche/greataxe in the stepstones battle he is also one of the best characters in the book so good on actor for doing a fantastic job Escobarbarian posted:You are wrong. Like, completely wrong. You should be embarrassed about how wrong this is. this. it looked awful, i am curious why because they know how to do night scenes. maybe it was the first stuff shot? idk
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Oct 4, 2022 01:10
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Gresh posted:Episode still really good but goddamn sometimes I loving hate the modern writer's urge to write for twitter moments at the expense of logic or making the motivation of the character in the scene a bit murky/confusing. It stands out in this show because so far the writing has been really tight/top notch and avoided things like this. yeah and half the time they always come across as having the worst read on the scene. like the daemon is gonna gently caress rheynerra scene. they make it like its a control thing and yeah kinda but i got it more of he had second thoughts and couldnt go through with it, daemon always just wings poo poo and it either works or blows up in his face. to me, he probably actually thought about it and didnt go through with it. William Bear posted:I think Cole is just a socially conservative prude. He had extramarital sex once, then immediately asks to marry Rhaenyra to make things right. He apologizes right after calling a woman a oval office in a moment of anger. He says all women are queens, even whores. in the book his line is way way way more venomous but i like that its a mix of him being a weird trad freak and also basicaly having the westrosi dream come true but when it doesnt go ALL his way, he gets pissed and bitter.
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Oct 18, 2022 01:39
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PostNouveau posted:Just gonna throw this billion-dollar idea into this thread for WB to scoop up for free: I am shocked they never tried for a AAA action game, instead it was a weird telltale game and an awful rpg. Mount and blade mods though. Playing lord Jon and killing dozens of stormlanders and then helping stannis take king’s landing is fun.
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Oct 19, 2022 20:52
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I AM GRANDO posted:Isn’t the book supposed to be a collection of primary sources or an oral history or something? Maybe the show is supposed to be what “really” happens vs the book being the legend that grows up later or what is reconstructed by historians piecing together biased and partial accounts. I’m not going to read the thing to find out, though. yeah, this isnt rankin type histiographical book, its all supposed to be unreliable and your supposed to put together details for your self either with figuring out gaps or inference.
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Oct 19, 2022 23:56
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PostNouveau posted:These are very different TV shows. I liked HotD about as much as Season 1 of Game of Thrones, but HotD is more of a palace intrigue show than a sprawling fantasy epic, so I don't think "what D&D would have done" really matters. i also like that it handles stuff differently. their is gross poo poo and misogyny and such but its not just "rape shot like porn" or "soft core poo poo" or rape. its more maligenent quieter and introspective. also most of the changes outside the dragon pit massacare(1) were actually pretty good. i like alot of the ambiguity though i think some of it is a little stretched like with beesbury. i will say however i do think some of the after credit "talks with the creators" come off as very brain dead and missing the point of what they are writing. That DICK! posted:Men celebrate the violence of Hans Gruber falling to his death at Nakatomi Plaza yet wince and whine anytime a show has a still-birth themed clip show episode. Patriarchy brain prevents them from finding scenes where wailing women poo poo out bloody dead babies cool and entertaining. i chuckeled. i will say one thing i like its its not afraid to go ALL IN on the really dark and tragic stuff and its not just "RAPE RAPE RAPE" wilderthanmild posted:Yeah, I feel like the problem is they had two choices. i mean the books are kinda like that anyway. the start out as a trilogy but you can tell by 2/3 that its gonna plod on longer and it did.
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Oct 25, 2022 20:17
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unlimited shrimp posted:I haven't read the books in years but I could have sworn that Dany was better justified & less nuts in the books than she was in the show. she defiently is. she is also a very obvious teen girl in the books, so the swings work better. the shows biggest issue is the show showing all her hosed up actions(against lovely people at least) as heroic and cool and then waving their finger in their face when she goes full girlboss fight song on kings landing and tyrion quotes niemoller at everyone. zoux posted:We presume that D&D got lazy and bored and wanted to quit, but everyone of those actors had seen their star rise considerably over the past 8 years and I imagine they were ready to move on as well. Kit Harrington thought he was gonna be a movie star. Probably Pedro Pascal was the biggest beneficiary of his GoT turn, and that fucker was lucky enough to get killed off. A bunch of them did stuff right after GoT but only a couple have had mainstream success. so thats why he wears the helmet.
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Oct 25, 2022 20:19
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I AM GRANDO posted:I’ve never read the books, but I did buy the map book and the in-universe history volume. One thing I like about both of them is the entirely off-screen (presumably the same is true for the books) suggestion that there are lovecraft-style ancient gods somewhere waiting, and perhaps the real story of that world will be them upending the entire world in 10,000 years or something. the one thing i kinda liked about GRRMs stuff is that its a world where magic and poo poo does exist and probably eldrich horrors and gods/higher powers do exist. its just random and rare. like yeah some people talk and have powers from the fire god, their is an ancient biological weapon in the frozen north waiting for the clock to tick down and lots of supposed poo poo in the edges of the world. but most of it is about Ser Hiram Fatfuck of the House Fatfuck and their weird dispute with House Baby Stomper/
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deoju posted:I like how they are trying to coax fans into choosing a side, but by the end you'll see they are both loving awful. Which is the point.. thats what i like. basicaly by the end both sides piss away any likability and mercy and it just ends in total horror show with some surving adults in the room quietly settle poo poo. Vegetable posted:They killed the Jon Snow spinoff — “couldn’t find the right story to tell.” no poo poo,. like the ending sucked and kinda killed my interest in the show. i dont even hate where most of the characters ended up but gently caress did they gently caress up the road to get there. also whats his face sucks as an actor and there isnt enough there to do anything with.
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mweber posted:Oh no, does that mean Kit Harrington is going to try to act in non-GOT projects? nah, he will live in his wife noblity money like all should dream of,
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Marsupial Ape posted:Kit and his wife could just do a very cozy “This Old Castle” show where they renovate her family home. People would go nuts. yeah. like i have no issue with the dude or his wife, i just mean like the dude isnt a great actor and now he can just live with his rich wife forever and do acting gigs every onece and while when he wants a new battlement. TOOT BOOT posted:I can't actually think of anything that would be that interesting that would be set after the main series. Especially based around Jon Snow being north of the wall in a completely depopulated area. Seems like Bran would have a pretty good handle on political stuff since he can just view the past and spy on people with raven, and killing off Dany and the Night King and then bringing them back would just diminish the ending to the main series which was already diminished by its execution. i feel like the issue is there isnt really a story you could tell outside after the god emperor of westeros dies. the kingdom is mostly unified though there are obvious cracks for future conflict a generation or two out sure, but like making another super war doesnt work.
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Tender Bender posted:I actually think Kit Harrington drastically improved as an actor over the course of the show. On my rewatch he was one of the standouts for me, especially because he has to basically carry the dramatic weight of most of the North scenes for the entire show. id find that funny if there is just like a hyper advanced civilazation across the sea or for some reason, their world is in a sci fi universe like 40k or some poo poo and its some long long lost colony ships poo poo.
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