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You just throw flour in the air then shine a flashlight on it. It's not rocket science!
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Mooey Cow posted:I've made holograms in my own dang kitchen and i'm not even that smart The vegan holograms are better.
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i just hate having to convert to holo-ounces all the time
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Mozi posted:i just hate having to convert to holo-ounces all the time lol i piss holokilos
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Somfin posted:Love to be the first generation in history that is majority certain that their lives will be worse than previous generations, and for half of that majority to be based on sound material reasons and the other half to be stupid nazi morons who think that folks like Zuckerberg are doing this on purpose instead of this being the obvious end result of giving any capitalist too much power I dunno, those first generations immediately following the bronze age collapse probably felt like things were going to just get worse and worse for awhile. Imagine being an Egyptian following the last battle against the sea peoples.
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I'd like to see how getting the Meatverse to the Sentinelese goes
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a mysterious cloak posted:I'd like to see how getting the Meatverse to the Sentinelese goes just looked this up. neato
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Plan R posted:The vegan holograms are better. Here is my vegan laser interferometer 
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Internet Old One posted:And what happens if we can’t make holograms? Well, there's now transparent oleds, that's the first step. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTCQMlmG4A Just have to get rid of the screen part now.
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Some kids are going to remember the Metaverss the way people now remember BBS.
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satanic splash-back posted:Some kids are going to remember the Metaverss the way people now remember BBS. These shitheads are stealing the metaverse name and just invented virtual real estate occurring on this or that captive platform. Not very meta. To ride the comparison I’m waiting for the fidonet intermediate level of the technology where I can bring the counter strike guns into roblox.
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zuckerburg has made the metaverse into the Meta Hearse
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JediTalentAgent posted:Mix VR, Mars, and Twitch. Can't wait for Mars to be filled with thousands of dicks and balls.
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I've used the internet every day for twenty years and not once have I ever gotten a "people want a metaverse and specifically one corporation owns it" vibe
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satanic splash-back posted:Some kids are going to remember the Metaverss the way people now remember BBS. https://synchro.net/sbbslist.html https://www.fosshub.com/KiTTY.html   
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I saw a commercial for the Meta VR experience that was literally the Simpsons VR daydream except it was "Your kids will watch Marc Anthony debate in ancient Rome!" If anything, it will be that Disney is will just upload all the CG 3D environments they built for the Marvel/Star Wars/Harry Potter*/Matrix* movies onto a server and you can walk around in them for $250 a year. (*It'll be a while, they'll have bought WB and rebooted the Potter/Matrix films by then. Disney Matrix hype will be nuts when they release the first trailer of Idris Elba as Morpheus and Tom Holland as Neo.)
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I have a vr headset and I used it during the super bowl I think it would be cool to use it on like...POV video of roller coasters. I'm officially out of ideas
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Bula Vinaka posted:Well, there's now transparent oleds, that's the first step. That’s legitimately really cool, maybe Zuck should do things like that instead of being a stupid piece of poo poo
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i've actually got a few holographic displays by Looking Glass Factory. They're neat, but they're just screens. If they were translucent then they'd just be a lot less visible and useful. Sure, having holograms floating around looks really cool and sci-fi, but there has never been any successful 3D professional-grade desktop interface worth a drat, and there's been hilariously bad attempts for decades now. If you really get down to it, 3D in a desktop UI is really just making things blurrier when you make them smaller. I just don't think the utility of that is that high. Would love to be proved wrong, since I have a bunch of previously-mentioned holographic displays.
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Whatever happened to those Microsoft AR goggles? Vaporware, i assume?
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steinrokkan posted:Whatever happened to those Microsoft AR goggles? Vaporware, i assume? Hololens is still out there. It's aimed at professional AR use, like for training jet engine mechanics with contextual popups to show how things fit together or how many newtons to torque a bolt with and so on. It is expensive ($3500), heavy (600 grams). I tried a demo and it was pretty disappointing in actual use - the rectangular overlay FOV is really narrow so whatever graphics you had showing would clip constantly, breaking any illusion of presence or immersion. Resolution is 2K per eye and there's no contrast enhancement LCD layer - the superimposed graphics are just that, light added to the scene. The light engines creating the images are only bright enough for indoor use in moderately illuminated spaces. We had to shut down all but one set of office lights for the demo to "work". Haven't tried magic leap, seems like their early hype cratered. Probably the prototypes were a lot more impressive than the mass-produced version.
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chaosbreather posted:Would love to be proved wrong, since I have a bunch of previously-mentioned holographic displays. They're not holographic, they are advanced lenticular displays. Like the 3D effect on the Nintendo 3DS, only instead of two pictures sent in two directions via cylindrical lenses, they send 40-something views in various directions using spherical lenses. It's still just a flat image with no depth information, and you can't e.g. refocus the image like you could with an actual hologram. An actually holographic display would be interesting because you could display something far away and have the eyes and the lenses in the eyes focus on the same plane, whereas in fake 3D screens the eyes focus on the plane of the object, but the lenses on the plane of the screen, causing all manner of eye strain.
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Mooey Cow posted:They're not holographic, they are advanced lenticular displays. Like the 3D effect on the Nintendo 3DS, only instead of two pictures sent in two directions via cylindrical lenses, they send 40-something views in various directions using spherical lenses. It's still just a flat image with no depth information, and you can't e.g. refocus the image like you could with an actual hologram. An actually holographic display would be interesting because you could display something far away and have the eyes and the lenses in the eyes focus on the same plane, whereas in fake 3D screens the eyes focus on the plane of the object, but the lenses on the plane of the screen, causing all manner of eye strain. Kind of, but not really. You should really try one if you get the chance. And the point of my post wasn't to argue hologram semantics, it's to point out that there isn't actually anything useful or even that interesting one could do with one beyond some pretty narrow applications. chaosbreather fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Aug 27, 2022 |
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steinrokkan posted:Whatever happened to those Microsoft AR goggles? Vaporware, i assume? What does vaporware mean? Nothing to do with vaporwave music, I assume?
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Le Faye Morgaine posted:What does vaporware mean? Nothing to do with vaporwave music, I assume? poo poo that got hyped but never manifested. Duke Nukem Forever, essentially.
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steinrokkan posted:Whatever happened to those Microsoft AR goggles? Vaporware, i assume? No. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/hololens-2/91pnzzznzwcp?activetab=pivot:overviewtab The nice thing about it is it's untethered (no cables to a pc), but, its picture quality is kind of sucky.  It's like a transparent screen that you wear and it overlays the image on the screen, behind the world which you just see through the transparent lens. The Finnish Varjo XR-3, on the right (I posted a pic earlier), is much more lifelike. Instead of projecting an image on a transparent screen, it has cameras, which then render what you're looking at in 4K along with the added elements, giving it a super realistic result, since the goggles "seal" over your eyes. But it has downsides: it's tethered (two display port cables to a PC I believe), is very bulky and heavy, and gets pretty hot with continued use, to the point of discomfort. The major thing however, is that it is significantly more expensive than the Hololens, and you can't even use the thing without paying another hugely expensive licensing fee. An "offline unlock license" which I assume is for 1 PC only (or doesn't "unlock" the hardware so it can be used anywhere, by anyone, on any PC... again I'm assuming that's the case), costs 70% of the goggles themselves: https://unboundxr.eu/varjo-xr-3 If someone legit wanted to buy these and ship them to the USA, and avoid the VAT taxes, you'd first have to buy them which can only be done with a bank transfer. That's a big trust, because when you do that, they can keep your money and not ship you anything, and there's little you can do about it expect try to blast them on the Internet as having stole your money. After that, you'd need to ship to the USA, which they won't do, so you'd have to use a forwarding service like forward2me. Most of their intermediary destinations have VAT. They have a new one in Turkey that you can ship to (if the seller ships there) that means no VAT. But again it's a pretty big trust to have such an expensive thing go through a forwarding service like that. Finally you'll probably have to pay customs duty taxes (not to mention the two shipping fees.. one to the seller, and one to forward2me), since larger, well known forwarding services won't/can't be sneaky like Chinese sellers who sell legit expensive stuff on AliExpress and downclaim the prices of what they ship to something like $100. Then you're at the mercy of Varjo to be there and have their servers online years later just so you can "unlock" and use the expensive as hell piece of hardware you bought. Bula Vinaka fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Aug 27, 2022 |
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Le Faye Morgaine posted:What does vaporware mean? Nothing to do with vaporwave music, I assume? there's hardware which is hard, software which is... soft... and vaporware which seems to exist but just disappears into thin air
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Le Faye Morgaine posted:What does vaporware mean? Nothing to do with vaporwave music, I assume?
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Dr. Quarex posted:It is indeed the root word in a sense, taking the concept of technology that never truly existed and wondering what that would sound like. It would have lots of reverb, cycling EQ making it sound like bad tape, and also a lot of high frequency noise, giving it a very "airy" sound, like vapor (sorry I mean vapour).
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Dr. Quarex posted:It is indeed the root word in a sense, taking the concept of technology that never truly existed and wondering what that would sound like. Is that what vaporwave music is supposed to emulate, concepts that dont exist but this is what the tune would be like? I always thought it just sounded like low quality regular EDM. nvm addressed above
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Well, EDM doesn't have technology, or even fast food mascots from the 80's and 90's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hI0qMtdfng
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