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Kashuno posted:I do not care if micromancer ends up being the #1 best card in DMU somehow, my brain’s wired to tell me that card is stone unplayable and I will never ever play it. Lol meanwhile I’m trying to make micromancer + vesuvan diplomacy good in standard, I feel like there has to be a combo deck in there somewhere and I wanna find it
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 This is where the original deck ended up, and I just hit mythic with it with a roughly 60% winrate against the field. Straight-up beatdown wasn't working against the hell sea of mono-Black so I tweaked it to make it a lot more resilient against removal. Basically the goal is to win with bigger creatures (5/3 Nishoba Brawler hits extremely fast, and Goyf/Stickfinger can get out of control really fast) before other decks can deal with them, while filling the graveyard to enable stuff like Greenwidow, Underdog, and Extraction Specialist. The mana looks pretty janky but it's kept in check by the fact all of the spells in the deck are relatively cheap (hence no Sheoldred, Serra Paragon, etc). I cut Old Rutstien and Uurg because they weren't high-impact enough against Mono-black. There aren't many non-creatures in the deck because the count needs to be high for Goyf/Stickfingers, but there are Leylines and Infernal Grasps to take out must-kills (again, Sheoldred and Paragon lol) and two Meatstick Massacres to clear the board.
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I didn't like the original build of this deck because it felt unfocused, so I made the second version of the deck to work less on the domain stuff and more on the graveyard stuff. The second deck was good enough to win, but definitely not top tier. Time passed, I drafted a bunch of DMU, and I realized: domain is really good. So I decided to rebuild the first deck and focus more on the domain part and ended up with this:  quote:Naya Domain (Standard Bo1) This deck is actually bonkers. I am currently on a 19-0 run with it. Most of my games seem to revolve around the opponent tapping out for something and then eating 15-20 damage from one attack. I decided to hit record on a play session during this run, so if anyone's looking for something to run, here's a thing to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAkVqdBmJxI
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:yeah finishing my dailies i've gone 4-8 lol, i probably need some play tips Lol I feel guilty when I post decks and people lose with them  I’m at work on my phone but can write out a little guide for it tonight, it feels likewise feels good when people play my decks and win with themDiamond was definitely a tougher fight then platinum but I hit mythic with a 70% win rate this afternoon, probably there’s a card or two to be tweaked for the control matchups but so far so good.
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Ben Nevis posted:Don't feel bad! Your Kroxa/Cleave deck was like the first one I copied from somewhere. It was fun and importantly, absolutely bodied Rogues. I'm always on the lookout for what you put up. CharlieFoxtrot posted:Is this another standard season where you come to the rescue with a cool deck lol, thanks for posting this Aww heck yeah  PS I like reading your draft stuff Charlie! elbkaida posted:That video you posted was definitely a bit of an outlier in terms of winrate and as mentioned there are some matchups like mono-R aggro, mono-U tempo or control that are tough. A lot of times people will get got by the deck though because if you haven't played much Dominaria draft you're not really expecting the twinferno+gaea's might damage bomb. Haha yeah, as much as I wish I could say I consistently peel off that many games in a row when I play, that video was definitely an outlier. I was playing it and doing pretty good so I figured I would record a few games to show how fast the deck could be, and then I just kept winning - by the time I decided to stop recording I was like "what the hell was that?!?" lol Sadly, a big factor of it was that I was playing in Platinum - poo poo gets a lot harder when the opponents decks are fine-tuned and well-piloted. That said, I enjoy a good challenge. Anyways! Here is a link to the untapped.gg page for the deck (I think? I'm still new-ish to having untapped, but I'm a huge fan). I ended the night right around Mythic #700 - which is all fine and dandy but honestly I'm neither competitive nor good enough to maintain that so I'm not really paying attention to it outside of as a progress gauge. Since the last time I posted the deck I removed a Twinferno and a triome and added in two Fight Rigging, which I actually like a lot - since the game plan of the deck is to get a creature with +5+5, it can replace itself so it's less dead in matchups against control decks. In re: Triomes, right now I'm running 13 of them, with 3x (Raffine Spara Xander), 2x (Ziatora Jetmir). The logic I use here is: A. Basic lands exist [a] to come into play untapped to cast spells and [b] to be searched for by Treaty, hence 5 Forest/Mountain and 1 each of the rest. B. Since I'm playing heavy Forest/Mountain, the best chance of hitting domain is to get one of those + an opposite Triome, which is why I picked those three to go heavy on. C. I tried doing 4/4/4/1/1 with those triomes but I found the absolute worst was drawing two of the same Triome when I'm color-screwed, which is why I evened out the split on them. Some general play advice off the top of my head: 1. In re: hand selection, the main things to consider are [a] do I have the mana to cast at least one of the threats in my hand?, [b] is there at least one threat in my hand?, and [c] is this hand going to get absolutely run over by a beatdown deck? 2. Just because you can go for the Big Turn, it doesn't mean you necessarily should. Save it for either [a] when the opponent is tapped out or has no cards in hand, [b] you have to go for it so as not to lose that turn. If you try to Gaea's Might only to get wrecked by Infernal Darkness / Fading Home / Destroy Evil / Lightning Blast etc etc you're gonna have a bad time. If the opponent is White and leave four mana up, they have Wandering Emporer - which is fine, but be aware of it. 3. What you do with Weatherseed Treaty is situationally dependant - I've found it to be really good at level 1, because it replaces itself with whatever land you need for domain even if they kill the token / fizzle the pump. That said, it's also good as "{2G|, sorcery, target creature gets +5/+5 and trample until end of turn" if you're going for The Big Turn. 4. Remember that you can flash Llanowar Greenwidow into play as an instant - sometimes it's good to just say go with three mana up, revive a Greenwidow into play at opponent EOT, and then you have a 4/3 trample that they couldn't stop with sorceries/planeswalkers. I find my opponents target it with Cemetery Warden only to be surprised when I just put it back into play in response. 5. What land you play should looks like: - turn one: triome, preferably a white one so that you can Leyline Binding for W next turn if you have an opposite one. - turn two: basic land if needed for threat (Brawler or Firebrand), triome if you can't get a threat - turn three: complete the domain if possible - once you have full domain: cycle excess triomes unless they're obviously helpful, play basic lands unless you're flooded (in which case hold for Fables) 6. Another good trick: instinctively, you might want to go "Leyline Binding your blocker, attack" - but since your main attackers have trample (Brawler, Greenwidow, Treaty'ed creatures), it's better to cast the leyline after they block - the trample will go through anyways, and now they can't assign some other block to it. I'm getting sleepy so I'm gonna end this here. Murmur Twin fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Oct 14, 2022 |
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flatluigi posted:there's also the other option you can go for, which is: you've picked up a list that someone else has brewed, why not see if there's something you can tweak and see if it works better for you? I am in the process of moving but some quick thoughts responses to posts I've seen in here: 1. Untapped.gg - I've been holding my own with this deck, hovering around the #300 mythic mark. It's tough to play perfectly (I am  'ing most of the time I'm playing on Arena) but is really good at stealing games that otherwise look unwinnable. 2. Always Be Tweaking!* I don't really have any sort of scientific method for deckbuilding, a lot of it is starting with something terrible and trying to figure out why it wins or loses. I like that Untapped.gg tracks changes, so if I start winning or losing a lot more (as was the case with adding Tamiyo's Safekeeping) I can go back and look at what changes affected things. 3. Re: sideboard - I haven't really played any Bo3 but this will make a fun thought exercise while I'm driving today. I'll simmer on it and then play some Bo3 this week and try and to figure one out - at some point I should probably stopped playing ranked and stay in the numbers. 4. Re: mana - I tried replacing two basic lands with two more triomes, and couldn't win a game, so switched it back. Recently, I had the thought of removing three triomes and adding three Evolving Wilds, and I think that might actually be pretty good? You only really need one or two triomes to hit full domain - once you have one, I think Wilds is just better since it thins the deck and always gets a color that you don't have if there is one. * (magic decks, I mean )Chamale posted:This deck is the real deal. I keep getting situations where I'm trying to figure out my sequencing and then realize "My opponent's tapped out and I can deal 20 damage for three mana right now." Froghammer posted:lmao just beat SaffronOlive on ladder using the meme Domain deck. He was running Riveter's Ascendancy, but that's a deck that taps out on turn 4, which this deck eats alive. Both games he took exactly lethal out of nowhere. Hell yeah  I don't really watch any streamers but think it would be cool to see one playing this deck - does anyone know how I'd go about that?
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imagine dungeons posted:If you don’t custom select your lands, you are a basic b. When I changed Triomes back to basic lands, I used alternate art for those (1 forest 1 mountain) so I could know "hey these are the ones I replaced, am I happy it's a basic land or do I wish it was a triome?". Which yeah, small sample size, but I enjoy getting data like that.
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Bugsy posted:You are match #1. Hell yeah, loved seeing this!
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Question: I had Phyrexian Dragon Engine in the graveyard and used Rivaz of the Claw to cast it (as opposed to Unearth). From everything I can figure out, it's ETB ability should have triggered, but it didn't - is that a bug, or am I misunderstanding something? edit: oooh wow "enters the battlefield from the graveyard" is different from "can cast from the graveyard", there goes that deck lol
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7-1'ed the open The draft was weird - I assumed that a p1p2 Sheoldred was a "go black" sign and then every pack seemed to have exactly one good black card in it. I got the sense that I was fighting for it but rather than ducking out I decided to commit and push other people out of it (with blue as a backup plan that I didn't end up needing), and it all seemed to work out. Good luck to everyone else playing in it today!
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Adun posted:Dunno about you guys but man cube is my favorite playmode on Arena. Same, I haven’t bothered with any other formats since this cube came out.
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Somberbrero posted:lol at the guy running the same pauper mono white shell but splashing red for smash to dust and end the festivities. worked on me! I tried a deck with a bunch of sweepers and ran into nothing but Tolarian Terror.dec I keep trying to find something that can trounce monowhite and not suck against everything else but I’m not sure it exists.
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Hah, I was going to build a new deck for On The Edge but also incorrectly assumed that it would be the three newest sets. It turned out that this deck (domain aggro from a few months ago) happens to be legal in it and I managed to get there on the first try with it.
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 Tweaked it for shits'n'giggles and honestly it felt even smoother, I'm fine losing Fable if it means my opponents do too. Basically it swaps Tamiyo's Safekeeping for Gaea's Gift and Fables for more Greenwidow/Fleetfoot Dancer. Only loss was when I kept a no-triome hand and couldn't draw out of it, otherwise I won a bunch of games where my opponent thought they could race, attacked with everyone, tapped out for something, and then took 15+ from an attack.
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Somberbrero posted:omniscience is an awful awful format on the best of days and this was worse than that. I, for one, think Omniscience is a great format that is very balanced and skill intensive. Sincerely, Someone who opened Hullbreaker Horror p1p1
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Kashuno posted:People keep telling me Ragavan is bad in draft and I get it, I see why, but I don't care I am gonna keep slamming Ragavan every time I see it and then pick up the 1 drop menace equipment and let Ragavan keep getting in. Feels real good and opponents are quick to scoop once Ragavan gets in once or twice, even if it hits nothing! My only experience drafting Ragavan was with this deck where I was r/b oops all removal and he was absolutely insane for me.
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Day 2’ed the open with this, I was hemming and hawing over whether or not to play B but UW was super consistent. Up next: 1-2 drop
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Hello again! I've been playing with / posting variations of this deck in standard for a few cycles now but wanted to give the thread an update because one card made it a lot better: code:As usual, I made a video of me playing it on Arena so that people could get a feel for it. This time, I turned on my mic and talked through my decision-making ( ) so hopefully that helps? Please note that I have never streamed anything in my life (and I definitely am not a perfect m:tg player) so I make no claims as to its quality - I haven't even gone back to watch this, I just played and posted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af6EzsL2rWA I go 4-3, and then 7-0, so skip to like ~37 minutes in if you're interested in seeing the deck when it performs optimally.
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code:Mono-R burn is a tough matchup but this deck feasts on midrange and is pretty good against control.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Oh I was wrong about the Cephalid Breakfast one lol? I’m pretty sure it started with Fruity Pebbles, which was an Enduring Renewal / Goblin Bombardment / Orinithopter combo deck fueled by Necropotence for card drawing. This got replaced by the far superior Trix deck that scrapped that combo for Illusions of Grandeur + Donate which was busted with Neceopotence (and to this day my all time favorite deck). I think Full English Breakfast came next? That one used Survival of the Fittest to set up Volrath’s Shapeshifter to attack for 21 in one turn out of nowhere. Somewhere along the line came an En-Kor + Tireless Tribe + Worthy Cause deck dubbed “life” too.
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[ code:Surgical / Hulking Metamorph are there to clone The One Ring (giving a protection turn and resetting the count), Key to the Archive (to provide both mana and utility cards, usually Time Warp / Demonic Tutor), and Portal to Phyrexia (which is a beating). Note that you can use Portal to revive a Metamorph and have it come in as another Portal to re-wrath the opponent if the first one isn't enough. Choice of Fortunes is really good and you want to cast it as soon as possible so that you can go ham drawing cards with The One Ring. Union of the Third Path is there to help survive against burn (obviously) but can also be really good at putting the game out of reach once Choice has resolved. Teferi is mainly there for the +1 ability - untap a land and either a Ring for three cards, or a Key/Mightstone for three mana. Once Teferi starts untapping your One Ring it's usually game over. The one random Oracle is basically there (a) so that Fragment Reality against our One Ring doesn't feel like a total beating, (b) as a way to feel comfortable drawing lots of cards via Ring without worrying about getting decked, and (c) as something that a Portal can bring back in the endgame. Divine Purge, Pull of the Mist Moon, and Mightstone/Weakstone are there to help survive. Sheoldred is annoying (and everywhere) and you really want to get rid of her on sight - in a pinch, you can Surgical Metamorph her so they cancel each other out.
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thespaceinvader posted:I think that's the fourth enemy Gruff Trips and the second or third enemy Hellkite I've seen this set. I’ve probably played like 50-60 drafts in this format and I just found out yesterday that Bitterblossom is in this set; I’ve never seen one in a draft or played against it.
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 code:Basically you mulligan looking for a hand consisting of a ramp (Grabby Giant / Young Red Dragon), a cascade or discover creature (Geological Appraiser, Bloodbraid Elf), and a payoff (preferably Ulamog but Ulgin and Karn > something are fine). You always want to go: Turn 1: land Turn 2: ramp Turn 3: creature > channel > payoff Or sometimes Channel is in your opening hand and you can just turn 2 something stupid into play. If you see the opponent on Lurrus, be careful - if they Thoughtseize your Channel, things fall apart quickly. The One Ring is there so you definitely get a turn with whatever you cheat in. I've never played with Karn before so am guessing on good bullets for him but I tried for a combination of hosers and cards to Channel out. I've never had to mulligan below 5 yet (although going to 5 or 6 is common) and I've been able to win games with five-card openers (2 land, ramp, creature, payoff).
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