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Also the quickhack HUD is the same as the hacking minigame in the game.
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Government Handjob posted:Also the quickhack HUD is the same as the hacking minigame in the game. Yeah, most of the HUD elements in 2077 are diagetic, so it's pretty easy to incorporate them here.
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https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1572016921398353920?s=20&t=jzv-khUYh4JJ1bJUjY0PPQ Ladies and gentlemen....we got him.
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Hes not wrong. It's a banger to use for an OP.
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The OP music is really good, but the OP itself is just fine. Too much “here’s a big list of names” with only a little bit of stuff happening on screen. There’s some really interesting moments, but I never felt I had to watch the OP when I let it go, but just listened.
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Government Handjob posted:Also the quickhack HUD is the same as the hacking minigame in the game. I forgot that! It was cute.
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The opening doesn't really hold a candle to the ending for me. My favorite use of a british pop song as an anime opening is the Eden of the East op using Oasis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pdqeu9LW2c I made a little playlist recently with anime that have used western songs. They tend to always be interesting shows: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfyHvL8sgal66oRvw8WWiMMhgi57i5tbm
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Ccs posted:My favorite use of a british pop song as an anime opening is the Eden of the East op using Oasis: Ironically not in the western release until the last episode because of licensing costs lol
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Man, I wish Eden of the East was as good as its concept and OP was.
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kirbysuperstar posted:Ironically not in the western release until the last episode because of licensing costs lol First episode. They used it for the first episode and then used the international version for the rest. Better than what happened with Speed Grapher and Duran Duran when Funimation couldn’t even get the original song once, and it’s solely because the record label as apparently the band itself was pretty open about liking to use its songs with visual media. Shame because while Speed Grapher is just ok. The opening is pretty good.
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Also for some reason, Funimation couldn't use the regular ED for Dimension W, and you'd think this would be an issue because Dimension W does the thing where the intro of the ED bleeds into the episode itself, but the piece of the score they used ended up working perfectly as a substitute.
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Yeah, that was a really good show. Wasn't sure going in how much I'd like it... but yeah. Good stuff. Also pretty funny to see the turnaround. When the game dropped to widespread disappointment, there was some wondering here if the project was still on. If the game had doomed the anime. Now, looking at player numbers, the anime seems to have done a lot of good for the game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzYhsKx8gUk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxRgh2vc278 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JILxefP5Ik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVPkGqEUX28 These are all pretty good and anyone who is just getting into the game from the show can play as their favorite characters if they want to
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chiasaur11 posted:Now, looking at player numbers, the anime seems to have done a lot of good for the game. Also doing a shitload of bug and content patches. The game has been in a generally playable state for a while.
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I've just started a rewatch of the first few episodes, and now I'm curious... I don't know very much about Cyberpunk's setting, but can anyone explain what the deal is with the weird grammar that goes on whenever characters are having conversations over the "phone"? On my first watch, it never really stuck out to me as noteworthy until I noticed Kiwi doing it a lot, and assumed it was just a character quirk unique to her. But now I'm realizing how much of that I missed with other characters. Is there any sort of in-universe reason for them repeating words like that or is it just something the show came up with?
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Thats a choice that was made for the English dub of the show. Doesn't really show up in the game from what I've played over the weekend. I like it, it's an interesting little tic. Lot of people seem to disagree and think that it's a case of misinterpretation caused during the translation to English.
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I guess when you're talking with your thoughts it makes sense for things to be a little stream-of-consciousness but it's not like that in the game. I wonder if it comes from the original setting
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In the game the characters are still physically speaking when they have their phone calls. The show has them talking via an inner voice while they do other things. It's like the comms system from Ghost in the Shell where they talk with their cyberbrains, only in Cyberpunk it's less articulate.
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Huh. You know, I think that I actually really like that explanation even if it's just something the dub did out of necessity — that it's the mental equivalent of a typo when you are DMing someone too fast to go back and correct something before you hit send. It gives a bit of texture to something that always felt too clean and useful in something like Ghost in the Shell, where they would be having full conversations in dead silence right in front of other people. It feels more cheap and janky in Edgerunners, even if they still get the same benefit from it.
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Edgerunners is about low income people getting by or failing to get by in a corporate hellworld. GITS frames it's questions about our relationship with technology through the lens of a well funded government black ops unit with top of the line hardware (while being disposable tools in a corporate hellworld). They have a lot in common from a technical standpoint but the sociological angles of the franchises are polar opposites. Cyberpunk uses a flip phone where GITS has a next gen iPhone.
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Generic American posted:even if it's just something the dub did out of necessity
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Why I treat it as an intentional choice.
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Ccs posted:Rebecca’s Japanese va is very entertaining though Phos going full berserker is my jam.
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Chev posted:What would the necessity be? Obviously it's not due to lipsync. That's actually what I was assuming might have been the root cause, like it was a more creative way to match the pacing of dialogue rather than rewriting each line — but that was just a blind guess from Arc Hammer mentioning that some people think it was because of translation issues.
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It happens in no other context though. Even the instant message with a live video feed, like the headmaster's, don't feature it, so why would only specifically the dialogue that actually present no sync constraints be subject to translations issue? That can't be it.
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Arc Hammer posted:Edgerunners is about low income people getting by or failing to get by in a corporate hellworld. GITS frames it's questions about our relationship with technology through the lens of a well funded government black ops unit with top of the line hardware (while being disposable tools in a corporate hellworld). They have a lot in common from a technical standpoint but the sociological angles of the franchises are polar opposites. Cyberpunk uses a flip phone where GITS has a next gen iPhone. Even then, the parts of America we do see in GITS 2045 aren’t that much better off than the America of Cyberpunk. Japan in GITS managed to make it through two more world wars relatively well, but much of the rest of the world is still in pretty rough shape, especially depending on the adaptation (a large portion of the second GitS movie takes place in a sort of Night City-esque “corporations literally rule this place and there are no regulations on what they can do” island in international waters.) I wouldn’t say they are polar opposites, though the points of view of the characters are pretty far apart as you say. Cyberpunk is basically GitS after many, many decades of all societal and social institutions have been allowed to dissolve into nearly nothing. In GitS Japan it’s still possible to keep your head down, work your 9-5, raise a family (in a very alienating environment), and not get involved in anything dangerous. In Cyberpunk America the economic system has no problem grinding up anyone and everyone as fuel. Random, innocent people minding their own business accidentally get caught in the thresher. Hell, even low, mid, and even some upper level corpo executives aren’t particularly safe or happy, even if they financially benefit. In GitS you have the option of implanting your brain into a tank to own your conservative parents. In cyberpunk you have to implant your brain into a tank to make rent. Pulcinella fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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Ranzear posted:Phos going full berserker is my jam. Oh its Phos' voice actor? No wonder they're my favorite character.
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frajaq posted:that one song keeps popping in my head still days later Cyberpunk songs always slap, even years later. The one that keeps popping into my head right now is Who's Ready for Tomorrow, which is weird as it doesn't have the emotional weight of the others but its just so catchy. If you haven't heard them the GITS soundtrack also has a few standouts, Rise by Origa, and Torukia by Gabriela Robin, being my favorites.
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Who's Ready For Tomorrow reminds me of Do Ya Thing by Gorillaz. Let You Down is also a great summary of David's entire arc. Everyone who he mattered to was let everyone down in the end. He let down his mom who just wanted him to have a better life. He let down Lucy by granting her dream at the cost of his own life. He let down Rebecca by succumbing to his addiction and using their friendship to twist her into enabling his self destructive path. Does Yoko Kanno still use Gabriela Robin as her singing moniker whenever she performs vocals? Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Sep 21, 2022 |
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Arc Hammer posted:Thats a choice that was made for the English dub of the show. Doesn't really show up in the game from what I've played over the weekend. I like it, it's an interesting little tic. Lot of people seem to disagree and think that it's a case of misinterpretation caused during the translation to English. It’s just a straight transcription of the English VA for those conversations including stutters, filler etc. Also whoever said they only speak in their head they don’t. There are a lot of scenes where they’re speaking IRL and over their phone/message thing in their head. Also a lot where they’re just speaking in their heads. I assumed they spoke out loud when there were people around that may be listening to the conversation or would need to hear things they are saying. At least, as far as I remember there weren’t any scenes with them speaking out loud when they were alone.
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frajaq posted:that one song keeps popping in my head still days later It's on Spotify but the black metal track during a certain pyre scene isn't. Some serious Wolves in the Throne Room vibes from it but I don't think I ever heard it in the game.
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Try checking the Edgerunners OST instead of the game OSTs on spotify. It might be buried in there. I only follow two anime youtubers and I'd like to hear their opinions on the show but since we're still in the initial hype phase the youtube discourse is dozens of videos of people trying to get their foot in the door early and various reactions to a certain song or two. It'll be a while before we start seeing some more we'll thought out videos that aren't off the cuff impressions. I'd like my friends to watch the show so I can talk about it.
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Arc Hammer posted:Try checking the Edgerunners OST instead of the game OSTs on spotify. It might be buried in there. Nup, this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGYlj-VsM2s Spoilers in comments btw. They do have a bandcamp but I couldn't find it on there either.
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Fun Rebecca fact: she wasn't in the original CDPR script. Trigger created her and they agreed to add her after seeing her design. Someone earlier said she felt like a very Trigger character, and that's why!
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I was a bazillion percent surprised Rebecca wasn't voiced by Mayumi Shintani, like half the characters they seem to make just for her to voice. Maybe a last minute issue.
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I think I interpreted the final scene a bit differently than some folks. It's not purely tragic, but bittersweet. Lucy's taking a moment of peace to reconcile her complex feelings about escaping to her dream-world at the expense of the people she loved, and finally chooses to accept their sacrifice by spreading her hands and basking in the otherworldly sunshine David gave her, despite her pain at him no longer being with her. It's sad and messy, but also just a little bit triumphant.
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I did not like Becca. I did like Lucy ending spoiler I'm butthurt that David died but at least Lucy didn't die. I never finished cyberpunk, I finished act 1 on release day and then got so grumpy that a character died that I stopped playing. Maybe I'll go back to it.
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