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EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

EorayMel posted:

I read it :)

I read it twice :colbert:

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Buce
Dec 23, 2005

you can’t spell Ukraine without U & I <3

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

grumplestiltzkin posted:

thread: hey its really lovely that this site is housing genocide denying assholes who are increasingly radicalized in the exact same pattern we've seen eat other forums alive

kit, apparently: lmao what a bunch of dumbasses

I've praised your moderation of the old thread before, and I'm assuming you didnt mean it like this, but what the gently caress? To me it reads like you think the complaints people had in the old thread were unwarranted or stupid. Which part of finding hate symbols offensive and impermissible do you find stupid? Which part of the frustration that the people spreading hate symbols literally cant be put on ignore because they have e-authority is unreasonable to you? Or were you just grumpy that the thread melted down in your absence and didnt word too good while expressing that (please be this one)?

Mate, it's simply not the place for it, as stated, for the sake of everyone. The fact that Kit has to parse through dear lowtax posts is bad enough, dont make the whole thread do it

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KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

grumplestiltzkin posted:

thread: hey its really lovely that this site is housing genocide denying assholes who are increasingly radicalized in the exact same pattern we've seen eat other forums alive

kit, apparently: lmao what a bunch of dumbasses

I've praised your moderation of the old thread before, and I'm assuming you didnt mean it like this, but what the gently caress? To me it reads like you think the complaints people had in the old thread were unwarranted or stupid. Which part of finding hate symbols offensive and impermissible do you find stupid? Which part of the frustration that the people spreading hate symbols literally cant be put on ignore because they have e-authority is unreasonable to you? Or were you just grumpy that the thread melted down in your absence and didnt word too good while expressing that (please be this one)?

It's pretty much the last one. A bit of "jesus why are you bringing their poo poo into this thread if I wanted to read CSPAM I'd go there" a bit of "I can't control the moderation in the CSPAM thread" a bit of "why has the Old Lore about not feeding trolls been lost to time" but yeah mostly the last one.

This thread is a place to discuss the war without D&D rules of order requirements. with a bit of lighthearted or dark jokes, and stay current on what's happening in Ukraine. It sucked to see that get buried with grudge posting, warranted or no.

Content:

Why the Wagner Mercs aren't helping other parts of the line:
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1571847843882700800?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1571852644867530754?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
Ukrainian advances continue
https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/status/1571847835221659649?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
That's uhhh pretty deep in Luhansk
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1571856640583819275?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
Putin becoming touchable
https://twitter.com/CarlSchreck/status/1571746119243411462?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
This is A Big Deal according to a lot of Russia watchers i've seen
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1571484742469689345?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
https://twitter.com/fabrice_deprez/status/1571803617530626049?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
Uplifting reactions to being freed from occupation, but also describes why Ukrainians are so happy. Content warning: the effects of Russian occupation :(
https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1571811603409952770?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
Same content warning for this thread - but Russians would have been benevolent if they controlled all of Ukraine I'm sure
https://twitter.com/rommari/status/1571610916277587969?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

Going to be funny to see how Russia tries to recover these material losses.

I've seen some estimates that Russia only could produce 250 new tanks (not refurbished/upgraded old models) a year and that was before sanctions/with access to western markets and material, plus potentially that number included export sales. Considering they've lost over four years worth of tanks even if they had peak production (they don't) and stopped all export production (they can't because they really need the money)...

lol

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Long, but worth a read.

Edit: should have posted the link but it’s in Mick Ryan’s Twitter

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Sep 19, 2022

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



KitConstantine posted:

It's pretty much the last one. A bit of "jesus why are you bringing their poo poo into this thread if I wanted to read CSPAM I'd go there" a bit of "I can't control the moderation in the CSPAM thread" a bit of "why has the Old Lore about not feeding trolls been lost to time" but yeah mostly the last one.

This thread is a place to discuss the war without D&D rules of order requirements. with a bit of lighthearted or dark jokes, and stay current on what's happening in Ukraine. It sucked to see that get buried with grudge posting, warranted or no.

I get your frustration but calling the GBS posters shameful, calling them dumbasses, and putting "Trolling isn't a war crime" in the new title is a gigantic middle finger to the people you're supposed to be moderating for.

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Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Cthulu Carl posted:

The Ukraine thread is dead, long live the Ukraine thread

Let them eat HIMARS

edit: Threadtitle sucks, do better.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
its done holy gently caress can we just talk about ukraine

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

make me thread ik. i will take up the mantle, i will troll the cspam thread with reckless abandon

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Xae
Jan 19, 2005


"Know your place peasants."

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TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
I hope vladyy putin dies imho

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

I'm getting the sense that Ukraine might actually win this war, which is outstanding!

I'm also getting the sense that thanks to Russia being revealed to be a paper tiger, we're going to see more war from other countries going "...hey. why not?" and that's concerning to me because that's a lot of senseless death and worse. Then there's the political instability potentially inside Russia and it's all... phew. We're in a chaos era.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

make me thread ik. i will take up the mantle, i will troll the cspam thread with reckless abandon

those who seek power can only be irresponsible with it.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

StrixNebulosa posted:

I'm getting the sense that Ukraine might actually win this war, which is outstanding!

I'm also getting the sense that thanks to Russia being revealed to be a paper tiger, we're going to see more war from other countries going "...hey. why not?" and that's concerning to me because that's a lot of senseless death and worse. Then there's the political instability potentially inside Russia and it's all... phew. We're in a chaos era.

chaos reigns, hail satan

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

Going to be funny to see how Russia tries to recover these material losses.

I've seen some estimates that Russia only could produce 250 new tanks (not refurbished/upgraded old models) a year and that was before sanctions/with access to western markets and material, plus potentially that number included export sales. Considering they've lost over four years worth of tanks even if they had peak production (they don't) and stopped all export production (they can't because they really need the money)...

lol

Apparently the electronics in the T-90 are made by a French company, so getting more might be a bit of an issue.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

StrixNebulosa posted:

I'm getting the sense that Ukraine might actually win this war, which is outstanding!

I'm also getting the sense that thanks to Russia being revealed to be a paper tiger, we're going to see more war from other countries going "...hey. why not?" and that's concerning to me because that's a lot of senseless death and worse. Then there's the political instability potentially inside Russia and it's all... phew. We're in a chaos era.

Global realignment is never pretty, and the fallout is gonna be something to see

Then again maybe this is the start of civilization collapsing and we don't even know it yet!

kdrudy
Sep 19, 2009

The Fear posted:

I hope vladyy putin dies imho

When this happens, hopefully soon, who is in a position to pick up the pieces of that country. Are there obvious successors that could muster the support to lead it?

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Seth Pecksniff posted:

Global realignment is never pretty, and the fallout is gonna be something to see

Then again maybe this is the start of civilization collapsing and we don't even know it yet!

I would prefer it if civilization would not collapse, so hopefully not!

god war sucks

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

kdrudy posted:

When this happens, hopefully soon, who is in a position to pick up the pieces of that country. Are there obvious successors that could muster the support to lead it?

Who knows; it's not like Vladimir Putin was an "obvious successor" but here we are. (Certainly not obvious to Lukashenka lol.)

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/status/1571504086528233477?s=46&t=jSExF4ESdw1goeLFTf37Qg

HahahahHahahahahahahahaha

:rip:

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

lmao holy poo poo

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

If you received a nazi symbol avatar please message me and I will blank it for you. I'll automatically do it if I see them in the thread but if I'm workposting I have avs turned off anyway.

That's a lot of fuckin jets
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1571768614373523457?s=20&t=h9-7gkr3vBmmIZvxmdeBHQ
Russia very supportive of Hungary shooting themselves in the foot
https://twitter.com/NoYardstick/status/1571871370740383744?s=20&t=IdXsYQF7mgneQlQIE6axKg
Something something Russia only went to war to reduce the US/NATO's influence on their borders
https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1571848864482590722?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/status/1571849800538267648?s=20&t=J0qKueOF7B9Gm3s4svDKyQ
:lol:

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
Gonna go on russian tik tok and go viral with a new dance called the Rout

Scream, flee, scream, flail, flee
Duck, crawl, scream, flail, flee
poo poo pants

Captain Theron
Mar 22, 2010

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3574374-ukrainian-forces-launch-over-20-airstrikes-on-enemy-positions-in-past-day.html
Apparently Ukraine managed to launch 21 airstrikes over the past 24 hours alone. I'm continually impressed that their air force is still operational and conducting useful missions. Also amazed at how incompetent the Russian air force has proved itself to be. The posts in the previous thread about pilots being expected to conduct their own maintenance are just gobsmacking.

grumplestiltzkin posted:

I've praised your moderation of the old thread before, and I'm assuming you didnt mean it like this, but what the gently caress? To me it reads like you think the complaints people had in the old thread were unwarranted or stupid. Which part of finding hate symbols offensive and impermissible do you find stupid? Which part of the frustration that the people spreading hate symbols literally cant be put on ignore because they have e-authority is unreasonable to you? Or were you just grumpy that the thread melted down in your absence and didnt word too good while expressing that (please be this one)?
Agreed. The reason this keeps on bubbling up is because the problem remains. You can try to sweep it under the carpet, but as long as other places are allowed to exist and brigade with impunity it will continue. To say nothing of the countenancing of literal nazi avatars being bought.
I know you can't personally solve the problem Kit, but telling people to report or take it to qcs has proven to be less than useless.
Happy to eat my probe.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

eonwe posted:

its done holy gently caress can we just talk about ukraine

ok

I've seen, albeit in a few not prominent sources, that there's a Russian general order to hold the lines, not retreat. That is to say, a complex and formidable strategy from Pink Pony headquarters.

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

KitConstantine posted:

It's pretty much the last one. A bit of "jesus why are you bringing their poo poo into this thread if I wanted to read CSPAM I'd go there" a bit of "I can't control the moderation in the CSPAM thread" a bit of "why has the Old Lore about not feeding trolls been lost to time" but yeah mostly the last one.

This thread is a place to discuss the war without D&D rules of order requirements. with a bit of lighthearted or dark jokes, and stay current on what's happening in Ukraine. It sucked to see that get buried with grudge posting, warranted or no.

Serious question: How does the above apply when an IK is part of the problem? The standard advice is "Report and ignore" but what if you can't then on ignore or they start loving around with avatars?

What's being done to make sure something like the weekend doesn't happen again?

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Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

World war thread - Russian worship? Go gently caress yourself.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

kdrudy posted:

When this happens, hopefully soon, who is in a position to pick up the pieces of that country. Are there obvious successors that could muster the support to lead it?

A pretty big part of how Putin has secured himself at the top of his grift pyramid is ensuring that there is no obvious successor. Actually grooming a successor requires investing investing them with power, authority and responsibility, ideally such a successor shouldn't just be a spineless lickspittle.

If you're a paranoid baby dictator, particularly in a system with no actually working legal system of succession of power, you're not going to want that because that type of person could be a threat to your own power.

If Putin suddenly dies, there is no clear strong successor.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
“Second largest army”

https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/status/1571861129390948356?s=46&t=mz7jE-oaMZWuGNNwE-YOcw

:lmao:

Also gently caress this guy for tarnishing the good name of Gritty. Patron Saint of Philly and Anti-Fascists.
https://twitter.com/gritty20202/status/1571597321863036928?s=46&t=KXXJF0PTZ54HGNKkOmlprA

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
rear end goblin is such a loving piece of poo poo. I would love throw some expired McDonalds at him. Probably stunlocks him as he tries to lick Big Mac sauce off the ground.

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1571663695541055488?s=46&t=QYgsAQ67S8GKEM0smRMsyg

hazardousmouse
Dec 17, 2010

Seth Pecksniff posted:

Global realignment is never pretty, and the fallout is gonna be something to see

Then again maybe this is the start of civilization collapsing and we don't even know it yet!

nah, that's not going to happen until the water wars

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

The_Franz posted:

Can we still make fun of Putin bootlickers/"Ukraine should just surrender"/"It's actually US/EU/NATO's fault" types with horrible takes?

e.g. "Well ackshually the US caused the holocaust..."

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1571653737705517056?s=20&t=SmfpmH1_7Ie-9d3EiF_AVA

Yes this type of poo poo is fine to complain about

I know it's frustrating. If you think I haven't been making the same complaints that you all have in other channels you're quite wrong. But I can only moderate one forum, and it's this one.

If the CSPAM/shitpost brigade comes back and behaves the way they were while I was out I certainly won't be ignoring them - they were encompassed in my dumbass comment, if that wasn't clear - but I can't and won't probate people just for posting this this thread while also posting elsewhere.

This thread isn't a walled garden, it's a public park. I've posted the rules, it's up to everyone who posts here to follow them and hopefully keep the park mostly free of piss on the trees

Good but long thread about the offensive - selections below
https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1571563676875776001?s=20&t=IdXsYQF7mgneQlQIE6axKg
https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1571563690633334785?s=20&t=IdXsYQF7mgneQlQIE6axKg
https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1571563725051596801?s=20&t=IdXsYQF7mgneQlQIE6axKg
https://twitter.com/WarintheFuture/status/1571563732358004737?s=20&t=IdXsYQF7mgneQlQIE6axKg
Threadreader link:https://t.co/Wg17trjFxt

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.

lol at the old thread closing (Russian defenses collapsing) and a new one opening up right as news comes out that another Russian army corps collapsed simultaneously as a bunch of goons get smoked in the new thread (new front)

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

StrixNebulosa posted:

I'm getting the sense that Ukraine might actually win this war, which is outstanding!

I'm also getting the sense that thanks to Russia being revealed to be a paper tiger, we're going to see more war from other countries going "...hey. why not?" and that's concerning to me because that's a lot of senseless death and worse. Then there's the political instability potentially inside Russia and it's all... phew. We're in a chaos era.

It turns out that deliberately fostering antagonism between nearby countries and also just barely holding them apart with your imperialistic might causes a lot of issues it when turns out you do not have the might you made them think you have.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

What a surprise! Lol

Mobilization surely would turn things around

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Mr Teatime posted:

World war thread - Russian worship? Go gently caress yourself.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Captain Theron posted:

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3574374-ukrainian-forces-launch-over-20-airstrikes-on-enemy-positions-in-past-day.html
Apparently Ukraine managed to launch 21 airstrikes over the past 24 hours alone. I'm continually impressed that their air force is still operational and conducting useful missions. Also amazed at how incompetent the Russian air force has proved itself to be. The posts in the previous thread about pilots being expected to conduct their own maintenance are just gobsmacking.


Ah but you see this is clearly 5D chess by master strategist Putin to make every NATO officer drop dead of loving embarrassment that they ever considered Russia a peer conventional threat.

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005





God drat. First Tank Guard got smoked, supposed to be the tip of the spear against NATO and now 3rd corp LOOOOOOOOOOL

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Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
"gently caress yes, a new multipolar order emerges! The hegemon cannot endure!"

*Russia shows its whole enfeebled rear end; long-frozen conflicts between its satellites reignite and yet further betray just how far Russia has fallen*

"gently caress no, we meant Amerikkka! AMERIKKKA!!"

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