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Randarkman posted:RatM? Okay. Though if they're pimping NFTs I don't know how ideologically compatible that is with communism either. That’s fine. I’m just adding this as a source for the NFTs, less it looks like I was CHUD posting. https://twitter.com/tmorello/status/1438662192996524037?lang=en
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Cartoon Man posted:https://i.imgur.com/APkwrqD.mp4 e: I mean in a good way
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Jelly posted:It's rare to see images from media that make me emotional. 
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KitConstantine posted:I hate this timeline  But eh take what….*starts vomiting*
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Is it just me or is this not getting the coverage it should in the US media?
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pro starcraft loser posted:Is it just me or is this not getting the coverage it should in the US media? Might just be that traditional news haven't really been able to get much wind of good coverage past the initial videos and pictures that started coming out a few days ago. Past protests in Iran have typically gotten decent coverage until they were silenced. I don't really know about US media though, as I'm not American, but it's fully possible that it's just getting drowned out with other news. e: Also you know, the authorities are actually actively attempting to cut off the protesters from the outside world. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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pro starcraft loser posted:Is it just me or is this not getting the coverage it should in the US media? 40% of the us wants to go that way, culturally.
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also you will find that liberal / socialist revolutions tend to pick up steam quickly and internationally most in power hate this fact of life
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My whole knowledge of Islam and it's various branches is very very limited but in regards to the various dress codes countries have, is it a Quran thing or something a bunch of old dudes decided to do later on?
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Tai posted:My whole knowledge of Islam and it's various branches is very very limited but in regards to the various dress codes countries have, is it a Quran thing or something a bunch of old dudes decided to do later on? The basis is Quran plus various traditions of hadiths for further elaboration. Sharia is Islamic law, according to that revealed in the Quran and also presented in the hadiths, however actually getting this into a workable legal system and moral code is more complicated which is why there's a difference between the ideal infallible Sharia and that which is put into practice according to interpretation and tradition, that's Fiqh. So what you have are quranic verses that emphasize modesty and separation of the sexes, some more specific, some vaguer than others, then you also have a myriad of others, then these are interpreted into actual practice. IIRC the verse most often cited is the one that mentions women draping a specific garment (the identity of which is often debated) about themselves to cover up some part of themselves and men not exposing their bellies or lower legs, something along those lines. e: Question would it be better if the quran directly said to beat women who wear their headscarves too loose? Randarkman fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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Bad Purchase posted:it's probably because it's not to scale, i had to embiggen it to get the point across That's a perfectly cromulent explanation
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Randarkman posted:The basis is Quran plus various traditions of hadiths for further elaboration. Sharia is Islamic law, according to that revealed in the Quran and also presented in the hadiths, however actually getting this into a workable legal system and moral code is more complicated which is why there's a difference between the ideal infallible Sharia and that which is put into practice according to interpretation and tradition, that's Fiqh. Do you always act like an rear end in a top hat to people asking genuine questions or what are you doing here? feller fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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yeti friend posted:So you always act like an rear end in a top hat to people asking genuine questions or what? I probably did interpret the question unfairly with that last added line. So I'm sorry about that and you're right to call it out. The rest of the answer still basically stands though, like Sharia, what actually consitutes hijab (which in its actual meaning is modest dress, not the more modern type of Islamic headscarf, though meanings of words shift) has been interpreted and enforced differently depending on time and place. e: I'd say the most significant thing with the implementation in Iran is how its being enforced in an arbitrary and brutal manner by a bunch of creeps who are widely despised. That tends to make whatever whatever it is that's being enforced a symbol of oppression. With that in mind it doesnt really matter if the Iranian version of "modest dress" is more or less strict than in many other countries. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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This is another thread that's likely to get pretty tense, which is completely understandable I would ask that people try to interpret things like questions in the least objectionable light, at least initially. It's not like assholes hesitate to out themselves in general. I will be keeping an eye on this thread and it's associated reports - please let me know via PMs or the report system if someone starts showing rear end, but wait until it's more than just a crack (if that makes sense). On the other hand please examine your biases before posting here and try to be sensitive to posters who are familiar with and may have ties to Iran/Iranian culture and are willing to explain things while there's people getting the poo poo kicked out of them for protesting. TL;DR: have grace with each other and use the report button liberally
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It's 2022 and humans are fighting (again) over if anyone should be forced to wear a hat.
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long hair should count as a scarf. frankly it’s ridiculous to own and wear a head cover if nature has already given you a perfectly good one for free. if it’s anyone, bald men should be the ones forced to cover
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Bad Purchase posted:long hair should count as a scarf. frankly it’s ridiculous to own and wear a head cover if nature has already given you a perfectly good one for free. it's the sexy hair they're worried about men seeing actually
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what if the scarf is even sexier though  it’s like mormon porn, sometimes the suggestion of hidden hair is all it takes
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Bad Purchase posted:long hair should count as a scarf. frankly it’s ridiculous to own and wear a head cover if nature has already given you a perfectly good one for free. I absolutely cover my naked pate. If only to make sure others are not blinded by the glare.
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Bad Purchase posted:what if the scarf is even sexier though Funny thing, somewhat high fashion 19th and early 20th century Ottoman styles had the veil be basically transparent. 
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Bad Purchase posted:if it’s anyone, bald men should be the ones forced to cover It's probably not common knowledge how horrific head sunburns are. Aside from just the general pain, the peeling is a nightmare, especially if (as is likely) you're freshly bald so still have a lot of hair follicles to disrupt an even peel. I made this mistake one time only, and never again. If I leave the house, there is something on my head.
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Jelly posted:As a bald, you are in fact forced to learn this lesson the first time you go hatless for an extended length of time on a hot and sunny day. 
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Just to make sure we’re all on the same page we’re still okay with posting the morale police getting the poo poo kicked out of them, right? Gore warnings if needed of course.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:Just to make sure we’re all on the same page we’re still okay with posting the morale police getting the poo poo kicked out of them, right? Gore warnings if needed of course. careful what you say about the mods, they don’t like implied threats
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Bad Purchase posted:careful what you say about the mods, they don’t like implied threats 
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Bad Purchase posted:careful what you say about the mods, they don’t like implied threats I'll allow it, but you're on thin ice Officer Purchase Marshal Prolapse posted:Just to make sure we’re all on the same page we’re still okay with posting the morale police getting the poo poo kicked out of them, right? Gore warnings if needed of course. Please include content warnings for any street or police violence. If there is gore or someone dies it needs to be tagged  / and de-embedded, and of course still include content warnings.Assume the same rules as the Ukraine thread. I will edit the pertinent portion into the OP of this thread some time today.
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My girlfriend is Persian/Kurdish and grew up in the same city Mahsa Amini was arrested and killed in. She participated in protests / civil disobedience when she still lived there and is still in contact via whatsapp with her friends who are still there. The internet outages have made it difficult to share media such as pictures / movies but it seems like encrypted text communication is still working, at least for now. While I've certainly learned a lot about Persian culture from her and her friends while we've been dating there's a lot I don't know, so if anyone has questions about the situation on the ground or the broader social context surrounding things I can ask her if anyone is interested. The one question I saw asked was about if there's any tangible figurehead or movement that the protest can solidify around to enact regime change, and it's something I've asked her about as well. As far as she knows there isn't any such thing, I'm guessing because the Iranian government has gotten very good at breaking any up that appear to be gaining traction. As I've learned more about the society she came from I've gained a tremendous amount of respect for the bravery she's shown over the years standing up to these monsters. While I'm glad she's safe here in the states her and her friends all wish they could go back to join the protests. I hope this is finally the breaking point for the regime and these protests result in lasting reforms expanding the liberty of their people. I would love to one day be able to travel with her back to her home to experience all the good that exists there.
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Bad Purchase posted:careful what you say about the mods, they don’t like implied threats How about more explicit  https://i.imgur.com/A9jpLp0.mp4 street fight / riot stuff, cops on the run like little bitches they are mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Sep 22, 2022 |
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This is a hot rear end take but I don't like theocratic and/or cultural poo poo that tries to make women into second class citizens!!
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mobby_6kl posted:How about more explicit Those I won't allow. That's also a very intense video. Brave people.
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Also you know what's funny as gently caress, GOP freaks in America complain about Iran and poo poo, but that's their ideal country, a single theocratic autocracy with roving unmoderated religious cop gangs That's straight up what they want the USA to be. You'd think they'd point at Iran like the left points at Norway or something as being a better version of this country I mean obviously the people in Iran aren't the *correct* religion or skin tone, so that's a no-go. But on paper, you'd think, no?
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So has any CHUD trash in Congress tried to latch onto this yet? That’s always the worst part, even more then a Paul whose not named Rand.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:So has any CHUD trash in Congress tried to latch onto this yet? That’s always the worst part, even more then a Paul whose not named Rand. I think their brains can't process it. On one hand, the protesters are the Iranian libs, on the other hand, they want to overthrow the Islamist regime, which is good because muslims. On the third hand, they wish they could do in the US what the Iranian government does.
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Marshal Prolapse posted:So has any CHUD trash in Congress tried to latch onto this yet? That’s always the worst part, even more then a Paul whose not named Rand. Tom Cotton, who is going to drop out of the 2024 presidential primary after getting 3% of the vote in Iowa, has a statement that blames the Iran deal and claims that Obama intervened in Libya because Gaddafi was pro-American??? https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/speeches/cotton-condemns-president-bidens-response-to-iran-protests
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James Garfield posted:Tom Cotton, who is going to drop out of the 2024 presidential primary after getting 3% of the vote in Iowa, has a statement that blames the Iran deal and claims that Obama intervened in Libya because Gaddafi was pro-American??? There’s the real broke brain poo poo I was waiting for. mobby_6kl posted:I think their brains can't process it. On one hand, the protesters are the Iranian libs, on the other hand, they want to overthrow the Islamist regime, which is good because muslims. On the third hand, they wish they could do in the US what the Iranian government does. Agreed.
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