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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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I wonder if there's any noteworthy motion inside the clergy for reformations to avoid a bloodbath?

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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stephenthinkpad posted:

For those who are familiar with the country, is it possible for the state to unofficially ease the touchy subjects, for example the head scarf dress code to calm down the unrest?

Or do they see it the other way, "give an inch and they will ask for a foot" perspective and will not budge?

The issue is no longer that there are rules about scarves, it's that authorities are killing protesters left and right and the people are understandably cross about it. And it's really difficult to back down from use of violence because while brutalities have fed anti-regime movement, now it's already a potential revolution levels of protesting.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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acidx posted:

Gives a good sense of just how pissed off people are at the Iranian government.

https://twitter.com/AlinejadMasih/status/1597805116920565760

I'm presuming there's shops selling US flags at every corner when an anti-west crowd wants to burn one, so it's no effort to get one to wave at an anti-ayatollah demonstration.

Hungarian flags might be harder to find at short notice though.

Samovar posted:

Wow. If the U.S. seems good compared to your government, your government has hosed up.

I'm sure it's just a symbol of individual freedom against moral police etc. Like someone waving a Soviet flag in an anti-capitalist demonstration does not necessarily support Brezhnevist stagnation and KGB and military quelling of protests.

Although it would be quite amusing if there was some closet hyper pro-American guy in Tehran with his home lined with Union Jacks and pictures of Ronald Reagan, and all these years he's just been waiting for his moment to shine. YEEHAA AMERICA AKBAR! :911::clint:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Mr. Smile Face Hat posted:

Jolly good show old chap, the sign of a true blue American bloke indeed! God bless King Charles!

I always forget that the correct nick name for US flag is "Stars and Bars" :dumb:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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what's going on

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/4/iran-prosecutor-general-signals-morality-police-suspended

quote:

Tehran, Iran – Iran has suspended its morality police as the country continues to deal with two months of protests, the Iranian prosecutor general has suggested.

The protests erupted shortly after the death of Mahsa Amini, a 22-year-old woman who was arrested by a unit of the morality police in Tehran for allegedly not adhering to the country’s mandatory dress code for women.

Speaking on Saturday at an event aimed at “outlining the hybrid war during recent riots”, which is how Iranian officials describe alleged foreign influence in the unrest, prosecutor general Mohammad Jafar Montazeri was quoted as saying by local media the morality police operations are over.

The morality police “has no connection with the judiciary and was shut down by the same place that it had been launched from in the past”, he said, reportedly answering a question on why the morality police has been shut down.

There were no other confirmations that work of the patrolling units – officially tasked with ensuring “moral security” in the society – has been terminated. Montazeri also did not say the morality police has been indefinitely scrapped.

Moreover, there was no indication the law that imposes the mandatory dress code will be terminated.

But the force’s white and green vans, which were tasked with telling people on the streets to fix their headscarves or took them in to so-called “re-education” centres if deemed required, have not recently been seen around Tehran or other cities.

This seems like a sort of victory, but it's not yet clear if this is a permanent change. It's also totally insufficient after HUNDREDS have died in protests. Hopefully it's a sign that the regime's power is cracking and they will rather ease the pressure instead of going full Tiananmen.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Samovar posted:

I just realized that I've not seen this thread in a while. Has there been any major updates.

Kurds are now in open rebellion after deadly attacks against them, burning cars in the capital's streets and throwing rocks at the police.

Oh, sorry, that's France.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64906996

Iran and Saudi Arabia have restored diplomatic relations and opened embassies following four days of talks in China.

Maybe they were able to put aside differing views on Yemen by concentrating on similar views on women?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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stephenthinkpad posted:

Thia is like the speed camera for hijabs? But women don't wear license plate, how does this work?

They have traffic cameras and if they catch a woman in a car with uncovered hair then they will send the car's owner a warning message. The second time they threaten to confiscate the car.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Crab Dad posted:

Lordy the top of the car doesn’t count?

if God can't see your hair from Heaven then it should be okay :hmmyes:

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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At a bank? Sounds like a clerical error.

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