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Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

That poo poo is just one step removed from saying "and why does he call his guitar a machine that kills fascists? Is this not a call to violence????"

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Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Matt Gaetz is his own novelty rubber mask

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Matt Gaetz looked like if someone tried to make a quote unquote "cgi based photorealistic muppet" but stopped midway because the results were horrifying

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Matt Gaetz makes people actively wonder what primus music video he escaped from

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Matt Gaetz is eternally freeze framed at the first moment in the original total recall where someone got depressurized and their face is just beginning to grotesquely inflate and bug out

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Matt Gaetz is not actually wearing a suit in the picture those are just his poison colors

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Matt Gaetz's face is American Sign Language for date rapist

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Automata 10 Pack posted:

Staluigi’s posts were based and truepilled and he didn’t deserve the probate. 💯💯👍👍🙏

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I deserve every probation and justice is swift to come for me, unlike for matt gaetz, who I use as a barometer for how significantly the American legal system has built in an effective class of inaccountability and immunity for people like him

He has been so very very very incisively and obviously guilty at literally sex trafficking minors to rape, this has been evident for years, and so far as of yet he has experienced less effective consequences from the American legal system (or the accountability processes of his own party) than if he had posted somewhere fritz the horse could have chain probed him

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Bugsy posted:

https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1577035026373672960

I think Florida has an anti-slapp law? Not a lawyer but I doubt this goes through.

As a ianal, lmao

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

https://mobile.twitter.com/lxeagle17/status/1577103423362605056?s=46&t=UJN-R9XnPtpkbdKdhWXkWg

Strong "They're not sending their best" energy

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

there were asbestos filter cigarettes, so even if the fiberglass poo poo managed to be true it's gonna be far from the most insane poo poo we did with nicotene

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Virtually every time a candidate is accused of being a russian asset it's incredibly dumb but people like gabbard make you have to stop and think about it first even though the connections to modi/rss hindu hypernationalism make more sense

her positions are truly that mystifyingly bad

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

However hosed up you think those hasidic schools are, multiply it by 10 and you'll still be surprised with how hosed up they are. It is layers and layers of unreal "how the gently caress did they get away with this for so long" stacked on top of each other

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

pencilhands posted:

What exactly is their motivation for harming their own community like that?

Hasidic communities, especially recently with the new york area courts, are vehemently insular and so strictly observant that the majority of their practices are intentionally isolating. The leadership has doubled down on intentional isolation from the perverse secular world by banning internet access, cellphones, and any non-religious books from family homes. Men have to devote so much of their waking hours to religious study that they almost can't do anything else. Women are put under practically medieval restrictions and obligations as servants to their husband and have to pump out kids endlessly while handling all domestic tasks AND have to do a lot of the money earning so the father can stay doing endless religious study AND have a bunch of rules enforced on them to make them as invisible as possible AND have to follow a bunch of rules that make the mundane domestic tasks very time consuming. Kids get beaten like It's going out of style. Poverty is rampant because of the religious obligations mentioned above. Married women are frequently in need of very complex escape and sheltering needs, because leaving marriage is something that gets discouraged in nearly all cases, including ones with substantial abuse, and divorce is heavily shamed. So a lot of the women who leave are fully and vehemently cut off from support in the only community they've learned to survive in (by designed isolation). Marriages are usually arranged and happen as early as possible, and the hasidic community was one of the most strongly opposed to be laws banning child marriage.

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Yeah the reasons why they got so insular are really a deep dive into some incredible history but as you can probably tell the part of it I had forward experience with was the way they intentionally stay super sexist and controlling and create some really sad DV cases

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

It's one taco bell, Michael. What could it possibly cost, twenty eight dollars?

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

My fox news business guy is reporting to us live from 2032's taco bell from demolition man is what's up

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Star Man posted:

I thought all the hipsters died out in like 2012.

No they just chased out every single family joint or ethnic restaurant from anywhere in a two mile radius from the metropolitan financial center and replaced it with That Place with Edison Bulbs, Square Stainless Steel Sitting Stools, Chalkboard Menu, Exposed Brick and Dark Wood Accents, A Name Like "Leaf & Pickle" And 32 Dollar Gastrostarters (or 'appetizers' in peon speak)

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

I haven't got a single family member back home who isn't absolutely in favor of US intervention at this point because they're already poor and dispossessed as poo poo and most of their livelihood is tied to work in and around port au prince

One in-law is against any 'interferences' but that's largely because he's descended from papa doc's enforcers and he'd loooooooooooove the violent purging + dictatorship solution, he's totally ready to be a jackboot

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

What's changing as we speak compared to how bad the situation already has been is the gang lockdowns on power finally degrading the situation so bad that there are no means by which to provide supplies or water to thousands upon thousands of people, even on a basic level, so: serious serious cholera outbreak time. Henry has no tools to contain dechoukaj now spreading up north, it's only going to get worse! The appeals to the US have been going on for a long time, but they refuse to go in not as part of operations mostly helmed by UN or similar. On the 6th binuh just outright called for a humanitarian corridor over the issue of varreux terminal, which has now been blocked so long that many health centers have closed and there's no more water treatment services. Lack of drinking water is going to cause cholera to explode in a dramatic way, cannot understress

The gang situation is absolutely loving crazy, you don't want details. It is not safe for girls or women in many places. Some relatives are taking temporary refuge in gonaives with other friends, and we will be sheltering a child up here in the US because she can take up residence here and we got over the fiction of it being ok to have her split time between the countries.

There's currently a lot of absolute bullshit in this thread, like comical levels, and while I'm not sure how much of it I want to emotionally deal with (lol) given how I hear about it on the daily and expect relatives to start falling over dead real quick, a good thing to hope for is that you introduce more commentary by people with significant familiarity with Haiti

I will however up and outright say

Ghost Leviathan posted:

'Intervention' in Haiti is and continues to be solely to punish them for the slave rebellion over a century ago.

This is a case of "oversimplify things so hard you become completely wrong" which sucks because there's so much fascinating nuance in how Haiti does get abused

And

theCalamity posted:

Do nothing? Lol. Didn’t the assassins gather in Miami before setting out? It’s basically assumed that the assassination was orchestrated by the US. At the very least, the US was involved.

You have no idea what you're talking about and the discussion will be better if it instantly disregards what you think is "basically assumed"

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

I hate that I'm used to people using Haiti and the whole of its troubles and lived history as a ball or bait or poo poo like that in conversations which are actually just about disliking America, but still here we go

cat botherer posted:

Your unstated assumption is that intervention will total decrease rapes - that is something that needs to have positive evidence. Adding soldiers to a situation usually doesn't decrease rape.

Based on your expert assessment of Haiti, it's been a "post apocalyptic wasteland" since lafayette or some poo poo, which makes it somewhat impressive that my parents kept a house and ran a restaurant, presumably inbetween dodging mad max wasteland gangs, like it was nothing. How bad is the UN in your eyes that the situation can be literally at the point of post apocalyptic collapse and it is still worse to bring in UN peacekeeping

Anyway, my stated opinion is that UN intervention will most likely reduce rapes even just purely based on the current condition brought about by lawlessness, should it come to that, but I think Leon went into that more politely than I could

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

cat botherer posted:

I wasn't the one who first described it as a "post-apocalyptic wasteland":

I assumed we weren't taking that literally, but I guess I was wrong!

The person you are quoting literally isn't describing it as a post apocalyptic wasteland, he's saying that reports they're hearing make it sound like it's on its way to that condition

That is completely different from what you did which is to respond to them by saying it's been post-apocalyptic for a couple centuries

So

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Fascinated by the best minds arriving with The Actual Conspiracy As It Definitely Happened (source: trust me bro 2022 (ibid)) here used to justify several absolutes, such as that intervention cannot in any circumstances ever make things better but claims like the US assassinated Moise on purpose and the replacement is a fake socialist installation of a puppet government are going to get super boring super fast unless you're into the genre of America Bad

But the situation right now probably deserves different conversations

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Jaxyon posted:

Most folks likely did not think about Haiti much prior to it becoming a current event issue where they could weigh in on how they feel about America.

I don't pretend to be super informed either but I'm also not making arguments for or against what is good for the Haitian people. I'm willing to admit my ignorance.

It's complicated and mentally draining to keep involved in it since it's an endless novel of pain and dashed hope so I might tune out as much as I can eventually, but right now a lot of people in port au prince are waiting for intervention as the only real solution. Not because of any positive opinion of the UN or fond memories of previous occupation, but because poo poo is really just that horrible and Henry is useless and helpless and won't be able to restore order. He hasn't got it. Assassination attempts already on his back. Everyone's just doing the mental calculation of what gets food to them before they starve or die to gang violence

Henry himself knows this poo poo, the call for intervention is also a bid for rescuing himself, and that's the actual problem the UN has to work around: the call is an invitation to be used to sustain a leader who can't ever get around to the next EXTREMELY OVERDUE election, but the alternative is probably tons of death and long term economic ruin even by Haitian standards

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

I think we had enough to work on when he suggested the Swiss Guard and all that and reiterated the seriousness of the proposals. could just be disregarded at that point in favor of what's actually up on the proposal board

1. UN gets cold feet over the whole thing where Henry is polluting the waters with an attempt to use intervening forces to rescue his own legitimacy, the current condition of violent breakdown continues and little can be meaningfully done to restore order in the most critical areas, due to corruption and insufficiency in the security forces and civil services. No humanitarian channels. Aid cannot reach large sections of pap and the south without being hijacked by gangs.

2. UN decides poo poo is too critical, fucks about a bit, launches interventionary force, US probably tags along as requested. We wait and see if the "cure" is kinder than the underlying condition, a darling national pasttime

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Are we ready for masked people with open carry "guarding" specific poll drop off locations because I'm ready for it

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Aw yeah just some perfectly normal second amendment rights at play, just some chilling out over here in full view of the drop off box looking like cartel members, super normally

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Quorum posted:

The United States Postal Service. :911:

Actually included among associations it is very advisable not to have on your rear end

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

HD DAD posted:

Progressives should just put an R by their name and see what happens.

”This one weird trick to get elected…”


HD DAD posted:

Progressives should just put an R by their name and see what happens.

”This one weird trick to get elected…”

Just ship yourself as a Maga conspiratorialist first to breeze the primary

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

That NYT expose on NYC Yeshivas seems to have brought down scrutiny from all angles.

NY state is investigating the education standards and possible abuse and the federal government is coming down on them for fraud.

Regarding the one in Williamsburg, I practically guarantee more charges or enforced changes will be incoming if the investigation went in deep

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

They are still investigating a network of 10 schools run by the same organization. So, they will most likely get some additional charges if they were doing anything like the Central United Talmudical Academy was pulling.

Ok. Yeah. It's going to pull up some poo poo then, for sure

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

yronic heroism posted:

Our generation? How old do you think goons are on average?

Rarely look at the "I actually use forums, like the bbcode rear end poo poo" crowd and see a lot of zoomers

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Some straight up villain poo poo happening to her

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Kanye is like "mental illness is not your fault but it is your responsibility".txt bullhorned out at 2 zillion decibels daily

Compounding the issue is that bipolar mania really likes to let you fly your underlying abusive/narcissistic tendency flags loud and proud, and he's doing the full vexillology run on that one since whenever he decided he too cool and creative and inspirational to have to take his meds like a plebe

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Yiggy posted:

Easiest $42 million ever for Agrawal.

Dude can't even grief teamkill in the lobby right

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

At least trump can come back on Twitter and let us know exactly how he thought Mr Pelosi was asking for it

And we can go rolling through a sea of racial slurs to find it

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Smollet hosed up his fake crime bullshit so bad that I still gotta hear about that fuckhead every time the right needs a lazy whatabout about political violence or hate crimes

Mostly I remember the noose

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

We just released the oldest person held at guantanamo Bay. Two DECADES without a single charge. Just putting fuckers up in cold storage lol

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021


Genuinely, yeah. It's what made Roberts so effective as the sheparder / fig leaf guy - he would push right wing rulings in a manner designed to limit damage to the institution of the court, aware of the ultimate political limits of faith in the SCOTUS.

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Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

there's so many nice people in WV but even with them you can tell the place is tossing their brains around. It halves your willpower saving throws for insanity effects. If stephen king had grown up with familiarity to that region instead of coastal new england he would have written the King In Yellow, like the actual thing they reference in the book, and accidentally caused Dead Space to be real. The whole place is probably an Elder God burial ground they forgot to put one of those "nothing valued is here, it is best left shunned" messages on top of in case mammals ever evolved to the point of tunneling into the ground to harvest burnable rocks. Paula-Jean is not immune and you must forgive her occasional bursts into things like the Let Them Eat Ketchup speech. They're under a kind of a One Ring style effect, being compelled psychically to keep chipping away at the earthen prison beneath their feet.

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