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Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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quote:

Does anyone else think about how Doc Brown's original family name was von Braun and also the magic speed to time travel is 88 mph?

Thread title made me think of this post

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Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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Discendo Vox posted:

So you're taking the position that algorithmic sorting functions, including ML-based ones, do not produce effects outside those intended by their designers?

No the opposite, their designers are baking in effects they don't even realize or care to control for.

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Nov 15, 2004

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DeadlyMuffin posted:

Just to be completely clear, you think selling suicide kits is the desire of the person or people who created the system?

I mean a profit maximizing algorithm doesn't care what it is selling or to whom. It's not a state they specifically sought-after but it is absolutely a desired outcome under the parameter space their algorithm is optimizing for.

Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Oct 11, 2022

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Nov 15, 2004

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Kalit posted:

Are you saying that the execs at Facebook/Twitter/etc actively wanted Sanders 2016 campaign to be successful? If that's true, holy poo poo, I just became a huge fan of them!

This doesn't follow at all from what anyone is claiming.

And you should not be a fan of huge media company execs just as a rule of thumb.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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Kalit posted:

....it was sarcasm. Based on Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! doubling down on their claim of

That still doesn't follow.

I completely agree with YMBs perspective on this.

As someone with experience with machine learning and Al Gore Rhythms, these outcomes like suicide kits and companies advertising pregnancy products before women even know they are pregnant, are completely predictable.

Machine learning isn't magic, and even with modern tooling, controls, testing, and data quality, you get some ridiculous things when you apply it to people.

This doesn't mean those things are designed on purpose, or that the designers have any control over those outcomes. In fact quite the opposite. Most often the designers are completely blind to the bias and nefarious application of their algorithm.

In this case Amazon was just pairing items that are linked together in a graph because of some previous human that bought them together before because it will sell more of both of the items in question when they are linked.

Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Oct 11, 2022

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Nov 15, 2004

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Kalit posted:

So… if algorithms encouraged this, wouldn’t that be a good aspect of them? That’s literally my point :rolleyes:

The algorithms are fun house mirrors distorted by both the user and the creator

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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Tacos : $6
Drink : $2
Nachos: $3
1 liter of extra cheese sauce : $17

Someone please help me with my lunch budget my family is drowning in cheese.

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Nov 15, 2004

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Eric Cantonese posted:

This is probably a question for a much different thread, but I keep hearing about how common unsolicited dick pics are on dating apps and I wonder when it became a thing for dudes to think "Oh, let me take a picture of my junk and send it out!" Is it a sign of how we really don't know how to talk to each other anymore?

And at the risk of sounding like Jordan Peterson (ugh), I think we're just beginning to see what it's like for people to have gone through puberty in the age of ubiquitous online porn. I imagine that has had an effect on the amount of actual sex people are having.

Why would a self-sufficient man or woman want to date anyone like the current modern standard of a man? What we culturally accept men to be is a loving disgrace.

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Nov 15, 2004

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https://twitter.com/nixonron/status/1583022972109197315

This seems relevant to the recent discussion of 'should we send troops to Haiti or literally anywhere else'

It's pretty big :yikes: but extremely par for the course as far as historical precedent.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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Wrong thread

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Nov 15, 2004

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hmmmm

https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1584541422317076480

would they indict him two weeks before the midterm?

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Nov 15, 2004

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Eason the Fifth posted:

We shouldn't believe liars. :hmmyes:

If a liar tells you the factual truth should you really believe them? :thunk:

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Nov 15, 2004

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This entire saga is incredible.

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Nov 15, 2004

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Is there some reason he would benefit by burning twitter to the ground?

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Nov 15, 2004

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They still need that seat and this just makes it more likely less people will show up for walker in a runoff that doesn't matter for control of the senate.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The only explanation I can find for Elon's decisions in the past week is that he has decided to tank Twitter on purpose as part of an insurance scam.

Musk just publicly fired one of Twitter's Android developers via Twitter for publicly stating that he was wrong about something.

lol at the snitch who tagged in Elon.

https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1591902285403418624
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591937998551130117

https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1591990727852298245
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592186302379982849

This has been an amazing saga
https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/1592198356579016704

Twitter is poison to all but the most elon poisoned brained devs at this point. This will probably happen on a weekly basis at this point.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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We didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning.

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Nov 15, 2004

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Another mass shooting that barely makes the news

https://twitter.com/denverpost/status/1594362841708072962

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Nov 15, 2004

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

its top story of cnn and other places.

It wasn't when I woke up and read the story from a local source.

What's the point of these posts other than to be petty and thread poo poo?



i am a moron posted:

This is part of what made me hate Colorado Springs so much. Other than the MAGA chudiness, you had the megachurch shooting, planned parenthood, the guy that wandered through the streets shooting people a few years ago, and now this. Town is not big enough for the amount of mass shootings they’ve experienced.

Colorado Springs can be a decent place but it has a higher population density of right wing crazy than is comfortable. Garden of the gods is a really nice hike, and there's some surprisingly good food downtown.

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Nov 15, 2004

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Push El Burrito posted:

The problem with these shooters is there isn't any red flags with them since the hatred and threats they spout off are just mainstream conservative ideas in America.

This is not the case at all. Domestic violence is an indicator of future mass violence. We could easily be doing much more to disarm people convicted of domestic violence, but then we would also have to disband a good chunk of the police force and disarm them.

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Nov 15, 2004

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Byzantine posted:

The only thing that's ever stopped the Nazis has been killing them.

That or winter doing it for you

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Nov 15, 2004

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Remember the big deal Florida made about taking it to Disney

https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1598649545851904001

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Nov 15, 2004

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selec posted:

Here’s another fun thing I learned about railroad strike negotiations: you literally can’t leave the job if you’re close to retirement and want any benefits:

https://twitter.com/saidthegadfly/status/1599497875582423041?s=46&t=_iHr0EElHkqdZU3nqy63Gw

So if I am reading this correctly:

1. You can’t strike unless the people the bosses bribe say it’s ok
2. If you do strike you will be fined or jailed for using your rights to free speech and free association
3. You are kept in a parallel retirement system that fucks you over if you try to get a better or even just a different job

How would anybody defend this status quo outside of “we won the election”?

California does this for firefighters as well

It's really common and really lovely

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Nov 15, 2004

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zenguitarman posted:

Are these stylized to look like rear end? Am I missing something? It's like, the barest of the minimum of effort.

No you seem to understand.

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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Whoever said that Elon was a reply guy and not a poster waaaay back loving nailed it.

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Nov 15, 2004

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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Oh my god. The reporters in the live chat are talking about Something Awful.

"Mods on a site like Something Awful made a game out of the ban. They just banned people because of the weather and weirdly it made it a good community. Because it was small and weird. But, Twitter is doing the same and it isn't the same."

Katie Notopoulos from Buzzfeed is actually comparing him to "the former, I think deceased, founder" of the site.

:eyepop:

I joined right before this was said and laughed so loving hard. What a world

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

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GhostofJohnMuir posted:

the actual lesson in all of this is that we shouldn't allow anyone to not post

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Nov 15, 2004

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Oh my God his mom is now defending him in the comments

https://twitter.com/mayemusk/status/1603774945066090499

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Nov 15, 2004

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This Santos guy is pulling a mel brooks level parody

https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1607546194309402625

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