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brain/mind chat containment thread talk about consciousness itt
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Oct 6, 2022 00:13
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echinopsis posted:talk about consciousness itt not a big fan, honestly
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Oct 6, 2022 00:14
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when I was younger I used to think I was smart but now I am worried my brain is hosed and will prevent me from succeeding in life
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Oct 6, 2022 00:14
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got ADHDD? tell me about it. I wonder if I have it but because I can pay my mortgage and get to work on time then maybe it’s not bad enough to warrant treatment so instead i’ll just be a perpetual mild failure
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Oct 6, 2022 00:15
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I like to think of my brain as ever-shrinking because every day I forget something important I should have known for years. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Oct 6, 2022 00:15
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rotor posted:not a big fan, honestly there are clouds outside but they are in your mind
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Oct 6, 2022 00:16
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Video Nasty posted:I like to think of my brain as ever-shrinking because every day I forget something important I should have known for years. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
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Oct 6, 2022 00:17
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your perception is a piece of poo poo
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Oct 6, 2022 00:18
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op I didn’t know that your moms name was “my brain”
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Oct 6, 2022 00:22
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echinopsis posted:there are clouds outside but they are in your mind the sky is blue because of rayleigh scattering, the clouds are white due to mie scattering
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Oct 6, 2022 00:22
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rotor posted:not a big fan, honestly
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Oct 6, 2022 00:23
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echinopsis posted:got ADHDD? tell me for me it just means i get a billion thoughts all the time about complicated poo poo lol if you can sort it out and connect them, it's actually helpful. i try to do this and seem to be able to harness it effectively, but ngl it makes concentrating pretty difficult at times. if you can't it sucks rear end
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Oct 6, 2022 00:24
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dioxazine posted:the sky is blue because of rayleigh scattering, the clouds are white due to mie scattering well yeah of course, but your perception of them is through an internal representation of them everything out there exists, but what you experience is your own internal representation of them
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Oct 6, 2022 00:24
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dioxazine posted:the sky is blue because of rayleigh scattering, the clouds are white due to mie scattering the sky is blue on mars 
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Oct 6, 2022 00:25
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echinopsis posted:got ADHDD? tell me i have it and can't really do those things so idk dude ask a pchitaratrist
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Oct 6, 2022 00:27
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Beeftweeter posted:for me it just means i get a billion thoughts all the time about complicated poo poo lol I think the crux of it for me is that yes my mind works like that when it has things to latch onto, but as I’ve aged, the things that provide stimulation and interest become fewer and fewer. it’s like I’ve lived long enough to have explored everything that interests my brain, and there is nothing left to hyperfocus on it feels like I just don’t have control over what I can put effort into. and at least years ago I had an endless horde of things to dive into but nowadays .. I’m a motivationless husk of an individual
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Oct 6, 2022 00:28
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echinopsis posted:I think the crux of it for me is that yes my mind works like that when it has things to latch onto, but as I’ve aged, the things that provide stimulation and interest become fewer and fewer. it’s like I’ve lived long enough to have explored everything that interests my brain, and there is nothing left to hyperfocus on sounds like depression actually dude. go see a psych for a bit and try to get it sorted
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Oct 6, 2022 00:30
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Agreeing it sounds a lot like depression. I take meds for mine but I still need to find a therapist at some point soon.
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Oct 6, 2022 00:33
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yeah theres always some new thing to focus on. the world is a lot bigger than a human life has time to dig into. it's a bottomless pit my friend
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Oct 6, 2022 00:34
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echinopsis posted:your perception is a piece of poo poo
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Oct 6, 2022 00:38
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Beeftweeter posted:sounds like depression actually dude. go see a psych for a bit and try to get it sorted please do get the help that you think you need, echi. even if in the end you don't need it, it's good to at least have confirmation one way or another Beeftweeter posted:the sky is blue on mars 
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Oct 6, 2022 00:40
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Beeftweeter posted:sounds like depression actually dude. go see a psych for a bit and try to get it sorted maybe. probably. when I read “driven to distraction”, the book just resonated with me constantly there’s defo high correlation with adhd and depression, and over the last year or so, I’ve slowly concluded that I am not as smart or special as I once believed, and the reality is that I’ll probably be a perpetual failure, because I can only work on something I find interesting until the inevitable time I find it no longer interesting. crime committer is the latest victim. thrust game next in line defo need to get my self sorted by a professional rather than self diagnoseses
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Oct 6, 2022 00:56
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echinopsis posted:maybe. probably. when I read “driven to distraction”, the book just resonated with me constantly don't sell yourself short man. shrunken heads still can be clever, sunken ships still can hold treasure definitely see a psychiatrist, i think it'd be a big help. i don't take it for depression (nerve pain), but duloxetine is pretty good at banishing that kind of thinking for me anyway
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Oct 6, 2022 01:02
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echinopsis posted:defo need to get my self sorted by a professional rather than self diagnoseses
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Oct 6, 2022 01:04
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echinopsis posted:maybe. probably. when I read “driven to distraction”, the book just resonated with me constantly you can have both
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Oct 6, 2022 01:04
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im very smart and a special little boy who deserves a treat
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Oct 6, 2022 01:04
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https://twitter.com/akiyoshikitaoka/status/1028473566193315841
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Oct 6, 2022 01:05
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echinopsis posted:everything out there exists, but what you experience is your own internal representation of them this morning’s Nobel prize in physics was given to a group of people that theorized this isn’t true, and then did experiments to prove it. things only exist because you observe them.
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Oct 6, 2022 01:12
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echinopsis posted:got ADHDD? tell me A lot of developers I know have ADHD. Quite a few were successful without treatment but nobody who has gotten help regretted it.
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Oct 6, 2022 01:22
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echinopsis posted:got ADHDD? tell me how often do you do something like heading towards the door to go out, thinking "oh, i should grab my keys", then continue walking out the door keys ungrabbed because you forgot the thought almost as you thought it
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Oct 6, 2022 01:43
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i have ADHD & dysthymic depression and it sucks
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Oct 6, 2022 01:48
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The Management posted:this morning’s Nobel prize in physics was given to a group of people that theorized this isn’t true, and then did experiments to prove it. things only exist because you observe them. but the tree falling in the forest always has tons of observers assuming that fauna has evolved at that point water bears at least all going this is our 9/11 and then  like they do with everything
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Oct 6, 2022 02:28
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Ciaphas posted:how often do you do something like heading towards the door to go out, thinking "oh, i should grab my keys", then continue walking out the door keys ungrabbed because you forgot the thought almost as you thought it oh lol all the time. usually not keys because “keys wallet phone” (as I slap all three my pockets in succession) is a routine burned into my brain, but everything else yes. I’ve kind of had to learn that if I remember something I need to do I have to act on that thought NOW else I’ll forget the worst is (for example) when I’m doing a task at work, say pouring out the methadone, and I remember another job that needs to be done so I find myself doing another task without really “deciding” to leave one task and start another. the lack of impulse control loving sucks lol, my work colleagues point out how easily distracted I get my understanding is that, neurologically, adhd is a lack of dopamine in the reward pathway, so the brain is seeking something to stimulate it, and then it sometimes finds something it likes and can hyperfocus on it, until it no longer provides satisfaction. and stimulants work because they effectively allow the brain to find reward in almost any task. Beeftweeter posted:
i’m intrigued
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Oct 6, 2022 02:38
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echinopsis posted:oh lol all the time. usually not keys because “keys wallet phone” (as I slap all three my pockets in succession) is a routine burned into my brain, but everything else yes. I’ve kind of had to learn that if I remember something I need to do I have to act on that thought NOW else I’ll forget i am not a medical professional but lol that's me & my adhd described to a fuckin T. get u a psychiatrist appt echi i'm wholly dependent on telling siri "Remind me on <day> at <time> about <thing>" even medicated (adderall), so it ain't a cure-all, but at least with it i can Concentrate On A Thing when I need to - especially poo poo I'm not interested in but have to do
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Oct 6, 2022 02:45
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i got an adhd diagnosis at 8 so ive been dealing with managing it all my life. part of becoming powerful in my 30s was learning to see it as a strength instead of a flaw. i posted in the other thread about my overactive imagination and my teens and twenties were all about being prescribed ungodly doses of adderall and learning how to “grow up” and “be serious” and it was hell on my body and soul. if i didnt have my breakdown and burnout at 22 and i kept being in stem i absolutely wouldve become some insane reddit incel. i did not have a personality or social skills and i was in school for engineering and i was loving miserable. i was extremely lucky in that my one approved non stem hobby growing up was music because i was loving robbed of any other kind of artistic or emotional development growing up. i was never taught to process stuff healthily and i was so tweaked out on adderall i just siloed everything and continued to be a quiet math robot. i took myself off at 22 and had to start from square one in a lot of ways. i graduated high school at 16, college at 20 no mattee what i was always “immature” and the solution was to throw more adderall at it until i did my work and shut up. i had to deal with a harsh, overstimulating world i hadnt seen since i was 8. i had to spend years learning how to be a human starting from nothing and i was a hosed up little sociopath on the way through. im 34 now and im more powerful than i have ever been. since ive finally developed healthy habits and practices i am happier than i have ever been but its been an intense, crushing amount of work. i have been majorly traumatized every few years of my adult life so it certainly took longer than most but i am so loving proud of the life ive built since then.
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Oct 6, 2022 02:57
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so no i dont mind having vivid daydreams frequently. they remind me im alive and that i can dream again.
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Oct 6, 2022 02:57
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there's a book called "Visual Intelligence: How We Create What We See" by a guy named Hoffman and i highly recommend it. It basically builds up a grammar of how the brain constructs 3D scenes by noting where it fails, using lots of optical illusions. I dont know what the academic community thinks of it but i found it very interesting.
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Oct 6, 2022 03:56
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tk posted:A lot of developers I know have ADHD. Quite a few were successful without treatment but nobody who has gotten help regretted it. ding ding ding this is me for me the biggest problem was executive dysfunction resulting in chronic procrastination. one time i actually ran out of gas on the road because i just didn’t want to pull over and gas up. i had money, I wasn’t in the middle of nowhere, just didn’t want to. that’s one of the most baffling things to explain to people. this of course affected my work performance and was a constant source of struggle and anxiety for years and years. you eventually train yourself that you can only get things done under extreme stress, and it’s incredibly unhealthy to live that way im on slow release amphetamines daily, now, and every day poo poo is just remarkably easier
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Oct 6, 2022 04:06
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is this thread going to be a cool thread about the biology of perception and cognition, or just a  thing?
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Oct 6, 2022 04:14
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unrelated to adhd and more in line with this thread, sometimes i have this extremely profound realization that i have a consciousness and I’m a living being experiencing reality, and it gives me shivers and kind of freaks me out for a while. it’s a little hard to explain and idk if there’s a name for this feeling or if it’s common at all. felt it long before I ever tried drugs
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