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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

fatsleepycat posted:

Second line here should presumably be Valvatorez, not Vulcanus.

Fixed.

God, I'm bad at proof reading.

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Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

In retrospect, it's kinda amazing how horny on main Artina was for Valvatorez.
Can't blame her, our boy is certainly dreamy.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


We haven't even seen the half of it. There's a reason Valvatorez is one of my fav units in D5.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
But will she want to stay if she smells the sardine breath?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Now on Disgaea 4!: Shots Fired!



This map was a real pain as the Bouncers have a high counterattack chance and the No Ranged Geo Effect also curbs the range of area of effect skills. Thankfully the enemies don't move unless we get close, so we can deal with the Bouncers near the Base Panel separately before moving up the rollercoaster. It's slow going from here even as we advance units on both sides and the middle to attack from three directions until we clear out every enemy on the spine of the coaster.








She is completely different. She was a nurse who would treat anyone, even those who couldn’t pay for the treatment.
To pay for her patients’ medicine, she starved herself and lived a poor life.
Her soul was nothing but purity. She scrambled across battlefields to treat wounded soldiers, whether they were allies or enemies.
Even when she felt isolated because of the indiscriminate care she provided, she stuck strong to her beliefs.

Treating the wounded no matter which side they’re on…
I know of some humans who still believe in that kind of stuff…

Does that have anything to do with how she died?

Aww… Desco isn’t good with those kinds of stories.
Desco doesn’t know if she wants to hear the rest of the story or not…

Before Val can answer these losers stumble in to fight us.


https://i.imgur.com/3SRAAId.mp4

Ya tryin’ to interrupt us again!? Dammit!

https://i.imgur.com/z2XWV7P.mp4
They messed up big time interrupting at this moment.

Desco isn’t good with them., but she still wanted to hear the love story, dammit!


Two Archers to either side of the Base Panel, five Mothmen in total, two Shamans in the back, and two Rifle Demons under the Ferris wheel. The last two are standing on Enemy Turbo x3, Enemy Level Up 10%, and the Mighty Enemy Geo Effect Panels. They are also behind a No Entry Geo Effect. Due to these Geo Effects the first three Geo Blocks are pretty much indestructible. What we do here is clear every other enemy out while giving the Rifle Demons a wide berth. The No Entry Geo Block is toward to the back near the Shamans. After destroying that we can rush in, lift and throw the Rifle Demons off the Geo Panels, and beat them down.






Tell us the rest of the story.

So did Artina die because she was trying to save an enemy?
...Naturally.
One of the enemy’s key personal was among her patients.
Because of that, she was suspected of being a spy and was killed by agents of her own nation.

Urgh…
You should’ve killed everyone who was responsible for letting that happen.

Of course, that’s exactly what I thought at the time…
When I arrived on the scene, she was already taking her last breath.
When I realized that it was too late for me to scare her, I decided that I had to kill all the humans to appease my anger…
But she...



Revenge will only create more hatred and another war…
I was only following my beliefs and did as I saw fit… I have no regrets.

Make no mistake…
It’s not revenge I’m after.

I will be forbidden from drinking human blood if you die.
...This is retaliation.

Th-then take my blood…
I don’t have much of it left anyway…



I made a promise to you!
Until I show you the depths of fear, I will not drink any human’s blood.
And…!
I said I was going to watch over you so that this wouldn’t happen...but…

Hmhm… You’re pretty earnest, aren’t you?
Mr. Weirdo.

Your loud mouth is proof enough that you’ll be fine.
Live, and I will plant fear in that incredulous skull of yours.

No…
I don’t think I’ll make it…
I’m sorry…
I’ve caused so much trouble for you…
With that stupid promise…
My only regret is… Not being able to…
Let you...drink...my...blood…

H-hey…! Don’t die…!
I won’t allow you to die without letting me keep my promise!



...It must’ve been so hard for you, Valzy.

Ugh, urgh… Hrmph…!
Poor Miss Artina and Mr Valvatorez…!

(Tsk…
Troubling our Lord even after her death… She’s nothing but a nuisance…)





Hmhm, I thought it was getting rather noisy around here.
Looks like you guys already defeated the boss in this area.

We did?

Huh? We did?

Desco doesn’t remember doing that.

I don’t remember either.
Did any one of us really do that?

Seems like we must’ve beaten him sometime along the way to getting here.
The boss of the bourgeois demons must not have been very memorable.
But enough about that. Do you remember the promise you made to me earlier, my Lord?

I guess we did. I personally think it was that Roc. You remember him right?



However, that promise requires that I defeat the angel when she gets in the way of us accomplishing our goal.

I see where you’re coming from.
That’s absolutely fine.
Hmhmhm.

Did Val just outmaneuver Fenfen? Maybe he's not such an airhead after all.

...Anyway, please excuse me now.
I have to start heading over to my next target.

Did you steal the money already?
I doubt the largest vault in the area could be cracked so easily…

I didn’t steal anything.
I thought I told you this is all completely justified.
I didn’t take a single extra HL, so please watch your mouth a little better.
If you ever treat me like a thief again, I’ll sue you for slander and rake in a mint.

Gh…!
She might actually shake me down if I keep talking…

Desco doesn’t get an allowance, so Desco will be quiet now!

Hmmm…
I’m really starting to doubt that this greedy angel is Artina…

Are we done now?
Or do you still have something to say?



What a coincidence.
I actually thought I used to know someone with an attitude just like yours…



...We’re done here.
Let’s go Fenrich.

My Lord, there’s more for us to do.
You haven’t kept the promise you made to me yet.

This angel isn’t trying to obstruct us in any way.
There’s no need to get rid of her now, is there?

I see. I in that case…
Hey angel, you want money, don’t you?
Then let me tell you something… We’ve got a bounty on our heads...pretty high one.

That's pretty low even for you Fenrich.



A bounty…?
How much, specifically?

Exactly ten million HL.
How about it?
If you defeat us and hand us over to the corrupternment, it will all be yours.

Well, well…
That’s very interesting…

Hey, Fenfen!
What are you doing!?


Val is back to being an idiot.

Don’t fall for it!
It’s not true! Fenrich is lying!

Fenfen is a liar! A fraud!
Only a final boss is allowed to do that!

Shut up!
Even if the bounty reward is a lie, it’s still a fact that this woman will get in the way of us usurping the regime!
I simply took the initiative in trying to eliminate a future problem for us!
She is not wanted around here!
Love is unnecessary for a man who will soon rule the world!

Fenfen…
Do you..swing that way?

I mean...I think the text speaks for itself here Fuka.

Ten million HL…
I’ll reach my goal in a snap with that kind of money!

https://i.imgur.com/29BUvfm.mp4

Sh-she...powered up as soon as she heard the amount…!

Love and courage aren’t the only things that help you power up!? I must take note of this!

My dream...my brain…!
Am I really thinking about such a filthy situation!?

What do you say, my Lord?
This woman is trying to get in our way.

I appreciate this, Fenrich.
As expected of my servant, this is the perfect stratagem.

All is for my Lord…






Alternative Ending: Vulcanus Victorious.



Yes! I need money!
And I want 10 million HL! That’s the whole reason I had to defeat you!
Now please, hand it over!!!

That doesn't make any sense. How could they hand over the bounty placed on them by the corrupternment?

Now what are we gonna do?
This wasn’t my idea, ya know?

I didn’t expect her obsession with money to surpass my Lord’s power…
What a shame…!
This is completely my fault…!

Go ahead and regret it all you want, but only after you fork over the prize money.

Um, actually…
The 10 million HL was a total lie.

Huh? Really?

It’s only 10,000 HL.



Claiming that 10,000 HL is 10 million HL…!
That’s 1,000 times worse than a normal lie!
Even if God forgives you…
Or the Overlord forgives you…
I will never forgive you!

Indeed...you’re absolutely right.
Lying is as sinful as breaking a promise.
We must pay her the 10 million HL now that she has defeated us.

Again why would you pay the prize money on your own bounty? This ending makes no sense.

L-Lord Val…!

Oh?
I’m glad someone still has moral values.

How are we gonna get 10 million HL?

If you don’t have a way to earn the money, then you can help me do it.

...Are you telling us to join you in your heists, Thief Angel?

I’m collecting, not stealing.
Do you want me to add 10 million more HL to your tab for being rude?

10 million HL, huh?
This is going to be a long journey.



How much, specifically?

Well, I’m estimating it to be at least 100 billion HL.

O-one hundred bill…!?
What kind of estimate is that!?

There’s no time to chit-chat.
Let’s start collecting!
We’re en route to the upper-level area! We’re cracking Fort Knockers!





Please wait for me, Lady Archangel.
I’ve almost reached my goal…
Then...We’ll be able to save the world, right?

I'm spoiler tagging two of the below screenshots since they give away a later reveal in the game.






Back on the main path.

We face off against the Angel of Avarice and a whole bunch of Prinnies. The Prinnies aren't much of a problem. Vulcanus with her dual wielding Slumber Cats hits fast and hard. She's able to one or two shot most of our units and can use the Slumber Cat Magichange move Fishing Cloud twice in a row. We have to pull out a move Warrior has that we haven't used before: E-Crush. E-Crush destroys an Accessory the unit it hits is wearing. This is very useful against bosses as it lowers their defense, resistance, etc as they are usually wearing high level gear. As Vulcanus chooses to knocks out Val and our Valkyrie first, our Warrior manages to destroy all her Accessories before he to stumbles. Vulcanus then knocks out our Thief and Healer before falling herself.




Hmph, I’m a man of my word.
There’s no need to praise me for doing something that is expected of me.

Looks like this is the end for the Angel of Avarice.
So what now? Oh, that reminds me, there is a bounty on you, too.
For the upcoming presidential evilection, we’ll need some funds…
It wouldn’t be a bad idea to fund our regime usurpation project with the money on your head.

Fenfen is so evil!
He’s evil and awful, so Desco should learn from him!

It’s the right thing for a demon to do, but it’s hard to believe that he’s doing this solely for his lord…

Mmhm.
He looks like a serious villain.
...It really suits him, though.

Say what you want...this is why women and children are so troublesome. They let their emotions blind them to the big picture.
There’s no point in explaining anything to shallow-minded individuals…
What about you? Is there anything you’d like to mention?
I’ll let you say it for free.



Me? What is it?

Why is the Netherworld neglecting the Human World when such a powerful demon as you exists here?
I’ve been told that demons tame humans by planting fear in their hearts to keep them in line.
But you have neglected your duties and are just watching the humans follow the wrong path.
Why is this happening?
You have the power to change this, so why aren’t you doing anything?

...That’s the exact same question I have.
I’m just a Prinny Instructor.

A Prinny Instructor? You?

Indeed. The corrupternment and the Netherworld have fallen to the point where a demon like me is forced to take a stand to correct it.
If it was up to me, and I hadn’t lost my power, I’d easily send all the demons and humans to Hades, but…



It’s a long story.
I’m a Vampire, but I forbid myself from drinking human blood.

A Vampire forbidden from sucking blood…
I see…

But thanks so sardines, even after losing my power, I’m still able to fight to accomplish my goal.
It’s taken me a long time to realize that things have gotten so bad, but it’s still not too late!
I shall eventually take over the corrupternment, and teach all the worlds a lesson!


And with that choice of nickname all doubt on her identity is expelled for us viewers, if any of us had doubts to begin with.

I’ll soon be traded in to the corrupternment for the bounty on my head, but…
Won’t you tell me your name? For free, if possible…

Umm…
My name is Valvatorez, a demon who was once known as the Tyrant.

Val…vatorez…!

* gasp * That reaction!
She has to be…!

That’s enough.
You got to speak with a man who will soon become the Netherworld ruler.
You should be honored.
Now, instead of wasting any more time here, we must go trade her-





Ahhh!
The love scene at last!

Y-you!
Get off of him!

https://i.imgur.com/aNNNKzQ.mp4

H-hey! Get a hold of yourself!

Everyone! Look!


A shooter on the grassy knoll!


Warden Axel!? You’re alive!

The guy is a freaking cockroach.



I thought money was the only thing you cared for…
Dammit…! Why!? Why do I keep seeing Artina in you!?
You and Artina are two different people…! So why…!?
Answer me…! You can’t die until you answer me!





Next time on Disgaea 4: The A-Virus!

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

I love how the moron chorus (Fuuka and Desco) have nailed 100% that Valvatorez/Artina was love at first sight because come on have you read the flashback's text, and everyone is just in denial, except Fenfen who is also in denial but of another kind.
(Valvatorez denial: "don't be crazy mine is just a platonic appreciation of a very fine human soul"
Fenrich's denial:"I'll get my lord to forget about the dumb human any second now")

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Nippon Ichi Software just rendered the part of my OP that calls this version the latest re-release obsolete by releasing D4 on mobile phones today with auto-batting and speed boosts that can go to x8.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


I...really can't imagine how the hell auto-battling works in Disgaea. Is it like Gambits in FFXII?

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Seraphic Neoman posted:

I...really can't imagine how the hell auto-battling works in Disgaea. Is it like Gambits in FFXII?

They already autobattle on one side, it just extends that to your side. 6 gave you the ability to write custom ai scripts to help make sure they did what you wanted, but I didn't mess with them much.

Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!

Seraphic Neoman posted:

I...really can't imagine how the hell auto-battling works in Disgaea. Is it like Gambits in FFXII?

No idea how d4s port does it but d6 absolutely is a simple scripting system that's kind of a more complicated gambit system, yeah.

I kind of hate it because it turned d6s post-game into a content less idler since it'd be trivial to blow past carnage mode with it running for a few hours

megamariox
Jun 4, 2011
I'm thankful that they seem to be taking steps to fix the auto-battle problem in D7. One major change that should have been there from the beginning is you need to finish a stage to auto-battle it.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Hmmmm. I dunno how I feel about that. On the one hand I see the issue, on the other hand it's not like Disgaea post-games don't just devolve into finding a single strategy and using it to nuke entire maps over and over again.

Like in D5 the post-game strat for item world grinding was to basically just to buff a character and then use their Overload to nuke the entire map. Repeat ad nauseum.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Seraphic Neoman posted:

Hmmmm. I dunno how I feel about that. On the one hand I see the issue, on the other hand it's not like Disgaea post-games don't just devolve into finding a single strategy and using it to nuke entire maps over and over again.

Like in D5 the post-game strat for item world grinding was to basically just to buff a character and then use their Overload to nuke the entire map. Repeat ad nauseum.

Or just skipping every stage by flying a mothman loaded with super shoes over to the gate. Maybe toss a punch man or sufficiently strong guy over first to remove the guard.

dotchan
Feb 28, 2008

I wanna get a Super Saiyan Mohawk when I grow up! :swoon:
I play Nippon Ichi games specifically for the hours of mostly mindless busywork, being able to do max damage to the post-game superboss is just the cherry on top of that.

If I wanted to play deeper, more strategic turn based isometric RPGs, I'd play other games.

Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!

Seraphic Neoman posted:

Hmmmm. I dunno how I feel about that. On the one hand I see the issue, on the other hand it's not like Disgaea post-games don't just devolve into finding a single strategy and using it to nuke entire maps over and over again.

Like in D5 the post-game strat for item world grinding was to basically just to buff a character and then use their Overload to nuke the entire map. Repeat ad nauseum.

The autobattling itself wasn't a problem, designing the endgame around the assumption you would be using it was.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


FoolyCharged posted:

Or just skipping every stage by flying a mothman loaded with super shoes over to the gate. Maybe toss a punch man or sufficiently strong guy over first to remove the guard.

Unfortunately no, for Optimum Post-game Item Leveling Reasons™ you needed to kill every unit on every floor. And you need to crank the enemy level to max in the cheat shop. And also you needed to do it without using instant kill skills because then those don't count :shepicide:

It really sucks and it's the reason I decided I gave up tackling Carnage Baal despite having like 20 guys with 20-30 mil in all their stat blocks.

Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Dec 2, 2022

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Now on Disgaea 4!: The A-Virus!



It must really suck for you…
That angel might’ve been Artina…



Sardines again!?
Is he trying to use sardines as a way to escape from reality!?

I think that's exactly what he's doing Desco.


There’s no end to the sardine spirit in Japanese culture!
Someday, every fish will be called “something-iwashi”!

Whatever...Why don’t we start calling every fish an iwashi?

Next time: Episode 6, “Sayonara Zetsubo Battle Front: Your Sardine Standards are Distorted.” There’s no room for despair!

He’s really losing himself…
* Sigh * That dreadful woman…



And then she revived so casually!?

...Please don’t kill me.
I was only unconscious.
I’ll apologize for making you worry, but I won’t pay any remunerations or give any other form of compensation.

Come on! We're owed at least something for the emotional damages done from the last scene!

Desco thought you were dead!
Desco was worried!

But why would you guys be worried about me?
You were just about to trade me in to the corrupternment for the bounty reward.

Only Fenrich was trying to do that.
We didn’t really agree with him on that…





(Is she after our money, or…?)
(Looks like another problem has arisen before the presidential evilection…)

or your Lord? We all agree that's what Fenfen is thinking but not saying right?

Anyway, what is going on here?
The deceased Warden has revived and is now out to take my life…?
I thought the Warden was burned to ashes by Desco’s attack…

Yes! Mr. Warden should’ve been completely killed by Desco!

Hmhmhm!
Did you really think that was enough to kill me!?

Huh?

...What was that?
Were you just trying to imitate Axel?

Huh? No, I-I didn’t say anything…
Wait, was that really me?

Curious..



We were once comrades who fought side by side, but if he intends to hinder us, then we have no other choice… We must exterminate him.

Yes, roaches must be exterminated!
Prey that Desco let slip away must be killed by Desco! As a final boss!

Don’t you think it’s weird, though?
Axel is a natural born suck-up. Why wasn’t he with a supporting force?

I could see him coming up to us to polish our shoes while we’re still expanding in power. It sure is weird that he just attacked us.

There must be a reason for that.
My Lord, I shall go ahead and order the Prinnies to investigate.

I’m counting on that.
...Anyway, which area shall we head over to now, Fenrich?

Yes, my Lord.
We will head to the most challenging, upper-level area where the boss-level demons live.



The A-Virus may be a reference to the Resident Evil series. Which has a host of viruses with the same naming format, such as the T-Virus and G-Virus.



I’m not sure if it’s still the same, but this used to be the training grounds for those who were vying for the President’s office.
A greedy angel would only add another dead body to the pile here.

Oh, is that so?
You never know, right?

Wait a second, you, angel.
Why in the world are you following us?



I’m not following you.
We’re just headed in the same direction.
I don’t mind leaving you if you really insist, but not until I get paid.

Paid?

For saving Mr. Valvatorez’s life, of course.
You said his bounty is ten million HL, right?
Then I should get at least half of that for risking my life for him.

Did you really do that only for the Zenons?
It didn’t seem like that to me…

How amazing!
Your obsession with money is definitely at a final boss level.



Do not degrade our Lord.
Don’t think that what you did was a favor to him.

That’s right.
That attack wouldn't have done any damage to me.
In other words, there are no favors owed between the two of us.

Then you shouldn’t have any problem with me, just because we have the same destination.

Gh…
She is going to follow us, no matter what.
Such an annoying angel…



You’re right. I only feel more hate, instead of love.

I think your Love Radar is tracking the wrong two people Fuka.

We still aren’t sure who that angel really is yet…

Well, I know one thing for sure…
Her name isn’t as beefy sounding as Vulcanus.
She’s gotta be Valzy’s first love, Artina.

How do you know!?
Do you have some sort of psychic power!?

It’s called women’s intuition.



Next time on Disgaea 4!: "A" Multiple Problem!

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Sorry for the longer than usual gap between updates and shorter than usual post. It's the holiday season and that means things are really busy at work, so I don't have as much time to work on this LP.

buddychrist10
Nov 4, 2009

Obtuse.....even hokey.
Depending on the source of the virus my guess would be that the A-Virus is a pun on avarice.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Seraphic Neoman posted:

Also Valvatorez becomes the best. Easily one of my fav unique chars in the franchise.

:yeah:

Admittedly, I do think that the character quirks become a bit tiresome with how frequently they're repeated ("It's just a dream!", "All is for my Lord", "Sardines", etc.), but Valvatorez on the whole is my favorite Disgaea protagonist.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

I think my favorite part of the cast in this one is that there's a theme to them. The main cast is, to a man, in denial something fierce.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Now on Disgaea 4!: "A" Multiple Problem!










Huh!? That voice…



This guys sounds exactly like Warden Axel. So strange...



Although their voices do sound similar, he’s still a Black Blood Demon.
We must keep our guard up.

But his voice is exactly like Axel’s.
My reflexes might kick in, forcing me to let my guard down.

That's a killer burn.

Today’s the last day you’ll ever get to talk about me like that!
I’ll pay you back for all the crap I’ve had to go through because of you guys!

His voice is exactly like Axel’s…
It’s almost as if Axel was right there.

Wait a second…
Did he say, all the crap he had to go through because of us?
Does that mean he has something against us?



Oh? This is my first time meeting him, too.
I did mention that this was my first time coming here, didn’t I?

Could this be another one of the corrupternment’s traps…?

It’s showtime!
This is the opening act of Axel’s Revenge!

The No Entry Geo Effect only covers the road here, so we can freely move over the wall to let's right side. The Green Geo Block with the -50% Enemy Weaken cancels out the +50% Enemy Boost, so we're on even footing with enemy units.





Those demons that had Warden Axel’s voice attacked us all at once…
That’s not something I’d want to experience ever again.

This is a serious nightmare.
I mean, I know this is all a dream, but I’m really not enjoying this part.


Oh no...

...Desco?
What did you just say?

Huh? D-did Desco just say that…?
Desco doesn’t understand herself, either…

Hmhmhm-hahahahaha! I will keep returning over and over again, like a phoenix, until I kill the Prinny Instructor!

That’s right!
I’ll get my revenge on him for everything that he’s done to me!

What’s going on here?
Are you holding an Axel Impersonator Contest?

Worse than that Valzy. Why worse.

W-well, it’s just…
Hey, what the hell happened to me!? I don’t get it!

M-my mouth was moving on its own…
This is weird! It’s definitely not normal…!


Spy Prinny reporting in.

...I see. So that’s what’s going on.
My Lord, it seems that this was caused by a new kind of virus that has become a pandemic all throughout the Netherworld.

A virus…?
So it’s like a cold?

Big Sis, viruses are the cause of many more diseases than just a cold.

So...the virus is making us do these embarrassing impressions of Warden Axel?



Then…
Is something even more horrible gonna happen to us!?

That’s right.
Eventually, you will notice small changes in your body, and finally…

F-finally…? What’ll happen next?

You’ll turn into Axel.


An understandable reaction to what is a fate worse than death.

N-no…!
It doesn’t matter if this is just a nightmare!

Desco refuses to become such a thing!
Desco wants to be a final boss!

Word!
I wanna become a great demon, but instead, I’m gonna become Axel…?
There’s gotta be a cure for this, right!? Right!?

Sadly, there is no cure.
At least...not at the moment.



Stop acting so miserable.
A virus is nothing to be afraid of. Just get rid of it with your spirit and fortitude. You’re letting a virus take advantage of you because you all lack those factors.
How pathetic…
Follow my guidance and start eating sardines every day from now on. You’ll soon get the spirit, fortitude and strong body to fight it.

This would have been funnier if actual anti-vaxx fitness nuts didn't make this actual argument when it comes to COVID.

We wouldn’t need doctors if fortitude and spirit could cure every disease. Sardines are good, but please consider what we’re facing.

Th-that’s right!
You can’t solve this matter just by eating sardines!

...You seem rather calm. Isn’t there a chance that you’re infected with it as well, Mr. Werewolf?

Staying calm is kind of my thing.
Shouldn’t you consider your own comment, Thief Angel?

You swing pretty quickly into rage though Fenfen.



It’s most likely that everyone here has been infected with the A-Virus.
The incubation time it takes for our symptoms to show probably depends on our immune systems and our general immunity against the Warden.

Then we better find a cure soon, or something terrible will happen to the entire Netherworld.



(Everyone will become Warden Axel?)
(Will this Artina-look-alike angel turn into him, too…?)




(Just as Fenrich said…
Women are truly unnecessary for someone who is on the road to becoming a ruler.)
Let's go, everyone! Crying over this infection won't solve anything!
If we've been infected, then we simply have to find a cure before we all completely turn into Axel!



Next time on Disgaea 4!: A Plan, A Man, A Pandemic-land.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

FoolyCharged posted:

I think my favorite part of the cast in this one is that there's a theme to them. The main cast is, to a man, in denial something fierce.

Nonsense! Sardines are healthy and delicious!

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

there are no sardines in the nile! they are salt water fish

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Man this got topical huh.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Hey, at least for all the horrid stuff covid got linked to, at least turning into Axel wasn't one of them.

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009
I don't get anti-vaxxers, but I do understand anti-vaxels.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Now on Disgaea 4!: A Plan, A Man, A Pandemic-land.



As you can see the Geo Block puzzle is very simple. We simply throw the lone blue Geo Block near the Base Panel to the nearby line of blue Geo Blocks to destroy them. This triggers the destruction of the red and in turn yellow Geo Block lines. We then kill the two nearby Skulls in the first turn. The Axel-turned monster and the Masked Heroes advance forward to fight. The Masked Heroes have high evade and high counterattack chance, so the next few turns are a slugfest with them as we form a defensive regular. The Gunners advance forward while we'll fighting the Masked Heroes, but thankfully we defeat the last of them just as the Gunners come into range, so we can turn and beat them down. Although there's a dangerous moment when two fire off their area-of-effect Skills and nearly kill three of our units. Once they are dealt with only the Shamans standing in the back are left. The Shamans don't move, so it is easy to rush right to them and kill them before they can do anything.



I don't even blame him. I'd do anything if I thought it would stop me from being Axel too.






Warden Axel!
Coming at us straight on from the front is very courageous of you…

A little to quick to assign courage there Valzy.


Huh!? Did he just multiply!?
As expected of Warden Axel! His reproductive ability is just like that of a cockroach!

No, they’re all just former demons…
This is the result of the A-Virus pandemic.

How can you tell just by looking at them?
Are you a certified medical practitioner?

N-no, I’m nothing like that…

A-are we gonna turn into the Warden, j-just like them…!?

No way! No friggin’ way!



A cure!? Don’t play dumb, Valvatorez!
We already know the truth! By killing you, the A-Virus will die along with you!



Seriously!?
We’ll all be saved if we kill you?

Goodbye, Mr. Valzy…
You must sacrifice your life…
For Desco and Big Sis!

Gh…
It sucks that this is how we gotta say goodbye, Valvatorez…!

The party was real quick to turn on Valzy.

What sucks is your brain.
How could you be gullible enough to fall for an obvious corrupternment lie…?
Or could it be that the A-Virus has gone straight to your heads?




(drat. This is becoming rather bothersome…)
(Seeing as how he went directly after my Lord, his personal grudge for being entrapped by my various schemes seems to remain within him.)
(I wish I could keep focusing on getting rid of that drat Thief Angel, but...I didn’t expect this to happen…)

Straightforward Geo Effects here and a straightforward fight. I did make a misstep here by advancing Valvatorez to far forward and him getting blasted by Dragons using their Fire based moves back to back.




I don’t mind that they’re coming after my life, but I can’t abide how they’re using others to accomplish their goals.

Hey now…
Don’t talk down on the corrupternment so much.

Y-yeah, the more I listen to you talk…
The more irritated I’m getting…

Desco is starting to want to slaughter Mr. Valzy for some reason…

The A-Virus is really getting to these three.

What’s happening to you?
What’s with your insubordinate comments? Are you siding with the corrupternment?

I think it’s safe to say that those are also symptoms of the A-Virus.

I see…
It may be the corrupternment who created not only the rumor but the A-Virus as well.



Naturally.
The world will be filled with a bunch of corrupternment stooges.

Control the masses by turning them into Axels…!
Is that the corrupternment’s plan!?

It sounds more like the corrupternment is seeking to collapse the Netherworld from the inside…
If that’s true, then… There’ll be a lot more money for me to collect.

Angel of Avarice indeed.

The big question is, how did the current corrupternment obtain the kind of technology needed to create such a virus?
My Lord, there might be something more sinister behind this.

Behind it or in front of it! Either way, it doesn’t matter.
I just can’t sit and watch the Netherworld fall to the threat of the A-Virus! We must do whatever it takes to stop it!

Sure, the Netherworld’s in danger too, but we need to treat ourselves before we turn into something terrible!

Don’t worry, lass!
It’s a staple convention that an important clue, like the cure to this virus, must be revealed by a boss character!

This thankfully is the correct genre of game for this to be true.

Whoa!
Desco doesn’t understand the logic behind it, but he is very convincing!

Then let’s go!
To defeat the boss character of the upper-level of the Netherworld!







Ugh...urgh…
I’m...I’m…

What’s the matter, rascal!?
Are you in pain!?

Has the A-Virus finally reached his brain…?

I’m so itchy!
My body itches all over!

You fool!
Who cares if you’re itchy!? Be a man, rascal!

Whoaaa!
I’m growing thick hair on my legs!
Ahhh...And chest hair, too…?



...The A-Virus.
It seems like it’s taking effect, slowly but surely.

Axel...had chest hair?
Way to go!

We now know Axel waxes. Knowledge truly is a cruse.

My Lord, now’s not the time to be impressed by such a pathetic fact. This is an emergency.

As expected of Sir Emizel!
He’s got nice leg and chest hair! Word to your father!



What the…?
Now Desco and the lass are acting coquettish?

Huh!?
What was I saying!?

Desco, too!
Desco just said something that a final boss should never utter!

It’s another symptom of the A-Virus.
How horrible…



Huh!?
Oh, what now!?


https://i.imgur.com/VuM2Ewz.mp4

Ahhh!
Everyone’s turned into Warden Axel!

Is that gonna happen to Desco soon, too?

Then I’ll never get back to my happy dream!
It’s all over!

This is why we must fight!
We must not give in until the very end!



The Geo Effect Clone spawns a single enemy unit anywhere on the Geo Effect Panels. We have to kill all the Axel clones as quickly as possible before enemy numbers snowball.





It's only a matter of time before it takes effect not only in the upper-level, but over the entire Netherworld...
No one in the Netherworld will dare oppose your wishes now. This is going to be a total victory.

What remarkable results...
Even to this day, it seems as though I've underestimated his power...
Everything I've done was to save the Netherworld... Oh, the irony...

Oh? Everything we've seen so far shows the corrupternment is acting in ways that threaten the Netherworld. What is driving the President's decision making process?

Sir?

Total victory...
You're right... Unfortunately, we're not the side who won.
No matter what happens in the end, I accept the truth...
That is my final duty as the President....

Next time on Disgaea 4!: Dyed In His Colors!

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Gasp, even our characters' verbal ticks are being affected!

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Now on Disgaea 4!: Dyed In His Colors!






Ah ah ah! Don’t judge me!
Of all the Axels who are invading the Netherworld…
I am the original Axel!



So you’re the idiot of all idiots?

No! That means, I’m the Axel you guys already know!

But didn’t Warden Axel die…?

Yes!
Desco definitely killed him!

Yeah, he died pretty easily.

You guys thought I did, because your eyes are full of crap!



Kabuki Death…?

Basically, he’s trying to say that he was simply playing dead… However, it sure did look like he completely vaporized.

Hmhmhm!
The corrupternment was so impressed with my special skill that they scouted me!

Scouted you…?
For what?

Young master, it was for their plan to fill the Netherworld with demons as intelligent as me, of course!



This place would no longer be a Netherworld…
It would be an Axelworld!

Oh, hey! Axelworld!
Now that’s music to my ears! Soon, this place’ll be dyed in my colors!
Then I’ll finally…!

Gh…
Now that you mention it, that’s starting to sound pretty nice to me, too…

No! You’re becoming delusional!
Please, get a hold of yourself!

Hmhmhm! Just give in to it already!
The A-Virus is invincible!

So...there’s no cure!?



Well…
That simply means that you don’t know. It doesn’t necessarily mean one doesn’t exist.

Mass-producing such an idiotic person…
How could the corrupternment do something like this…?

Is this...what Father really wants?
...As Valvatorez said, we can’t allow ourselves to turn into Axels right now!!
I have to find out what my father’s true intentions are!

It doesn’t matter what you try to do now!
You can’t escape your destiny of turning into me!
If you really wanna keep resisting, fine! Have fun playing with my slaves!

While at first glance this looks to be an easy map with only five enemy units on it. There are four enemy Base Panels and they each spawn more Axel clones every turn. You can apparently destroy these enemy Base Panels, but I did not know this, so I fought a long battle of attrition for about thirty minutes until they are stopped spawning.




But even if we do capture him, if he doesn’t know the cure, then...ya know?

There’s no need to worry!
In cases like these, if we defeat the original, the effects of the virus should also disappear!

There’s no medical proof to support that theory, but we have no choice but to believe our Lord’s logic for now.



Hmhmhm, it’s a pointless struggle!
Just give up and soak in the Axelness!

No, please hang in there!



That’s blatherskite! Resist it, Desco!
Stamina is the most important stat for a final boss to develop!

I’m starting to fade, too…
I’m losing consciousness in my dream to go relax in another dream…

What? You, too?

Ugh…
I think my chest hair is growing in even thicker…

Well, that should be alright…



We cannot keep letting them suffer!

You…

Then you don’t cure them?
Or are you saying that you won’t cure the ones who can’t pay?



Come on, Fenrich…
She seems really worried about us demons, even though she’s an angel…

...I have an idea of what Mr. Werewolf thinks of me.
But my heart isn’t cold enough to neglect the suffering souls in front of me, even if I’m in the middle of a mission.




Pardon me, Lord Val.
It looks like I lost my spirit and fortitude for a just a moment.
I will be more cautious from now on. Please forgive me.
My Lord, you must be careful as well. I couldn’t bare to lay eyes on my master if he were to turn into Axel.

Do not worry, Fenrich.
I’m your master, Valvatorez. And I promise you this…
I will find a cure, no matter what.
Believe in me! And the power of sardines!

Sardines or not, I have absolute faith in Lord Val at all times.
...All is for my Lord.



This is more of a puzzle map. There are only four Axel clones present. However! They are standing on Geo Blocks with Jump boost and Clone effects! We use the Jump boost Geo Blocks to climb the cliffs and we have to get the Axel clones off the Geo Blocks to prevent the Clone Geo Effect from spawning in a bunch more Axels in.








You haven’t transformed yet?
Such persistence…Why won’t you just accept it already?



Could it be...that you’re just shy?
Are you just too embarrassed to show your excitement?

I’m just embarrassed, period.
Dammit! I am a lady! Why would I wanna become an idiot like you!?

Desco doesn’t wanna be an idiot…!
Desco wants to become a final boss…! And then…

Stop calling me an idiot!
Can’t you feel my reason, intelligence, and nobility surging into your bodies?
You understand, right, young master?
Following the corrupternment’s orders and turning into me is the most righteous thing can do.



Aww, you too!? Hey, wait a minute!
Are you saying that I’m not a great demon!? Psh! Whatever!
No matter how much you resist, there’s no turning back once you’ve contracted my virus!
You have no choice but to be me!

You!
Don’t you feel the guilt of your sin!?
Don’t you feel anything, seeing all of these people suffering!?

Well, it’s not like I don’t feel bad or anything…
But evil is justified in its own evil way. I-it’s not up to us to decide whether this is really evil or not…

Hey…
There’s no point in trying to talk sense into that idiot…

Ungh…!
Desco is very close to transforming…



Keep fighting! Till the end!
I’ll make you a promise right now!
Even if you all turn into Axel, I will find a way to turn you guys back to your original forms!
So...so don’t give up until the end!

Hmhm!
How much longer can you keep it up? Just turn into me so you can relax already!
My “turn” will last forever in this Netherworld! Get it!? Turn!


This looks at first like this will be a challenging map, but on a closer examination only Warden Axel is at an appropriate level to challenge us. The Axel clones are all level 5. We can easily sweep everyone aside.




Alternative Ending: Axel Victorious.



Mwahahahaha!
Looks like it’s your time to join the ranks of the Axels.

Please...get a hold of your...self…!
Lord Val…!

I don’t have much...left in me...either…

I’ve got a lot to say to you guys, but my heart is bigger than the universe!
I forgive you for everything! And, I welcome you into the Axel Family!

The Axel Family…
That sounds wonderful…!

Desco is…
I-I’m…
Axel…!

* gasp * No…!
Everyone…!!!

https://i.imgur.com/W3ICw1k.mp4

I’ve...finally become an idiot!

Not an idiot… How rude…
Desco looks just like Big Sis! We’re perfect sisters now! Yeah!

Whoa, my leg and chest hair have fully grown in!
Ahh, how beautiful…!

Look at mine, too!
This is great! I’m completely satisfied!



This is a total microcosm of chest haaaiiiirrr!!!

Oh…
Lord Val has finally lost it…
Actually, I can’t even tell who’s who anymore…

Hmhmhmhm….
Why are you so upset? Gloomy faces aren’t for me.
Listen guys, you’ve already been tainted with my colors.
All of you are me. We’re all as one. There’s nothing to worry about now.
We are all Axel.

Axel…!
Bravo! How admirable!

This is awesome!
We’re all as one! Best friends! The Axel Family!

Go, Axel Family!
All Axels are the best!

Now everyone!
Let’s keep expanding our family and take over the Netherworld!

What should I do…?
I need to do something…!



Huh!?
She hasn’t been affected!

You’re right!
Let’s get her!

Unite the world!
For an Axel-colored world! The world is Axel’s!

Um, no…
Get away from meee!


Don’t let her escape!
Chase her down!

Hmhmhmhm! This is Axelworld!
How amazing… I will become the whole world…!









Back to the main timeline.



As long as the A-Virus exists, the second, third, and even fourth me will keep coming back… Ugh! Gh…

Good! That idiot has been defeated!
How’s everyone doing?

Desco’s body feels hot…!

Mine, too…!
I can’t do this anymore…!

No!
Nothing has changed, even after the original has fallen! This means…

If only our Lord’s logic was correct…
What terrible misfortune…

Dammit! Get a hold of yourselves!
Where’s your spirit!? Toughen up! Don’t you have a mission to accomplish?

My...mission…?
M-my…
I’m…! I’m…!





Dammit, hey you!
We didn’t get better even after we defeated the original Axel!
You turned me into this!
How are you gonna take responsibility for this nightmare!?

Your consciousness is still present…
You’re mentally tough.

I don’t wantcha to be impressed!
If I hafta look like this, I wish I would’ve lost my consciousness, too!
Argh! Even if I confessed my love to a boy under a legendary tree, my love would never come true!

Desco… Desco doesn’t care about anything anymore…
Who cares about being a final boss…?

My…
My leg and chest hair are perfect now…!

...Lord Val.
Please don’t look at me. Please consider your loyal servant, Fenrich, to be dead.
My only wish… Is that my master, Lord Valvatorez, will not succumb to this infectious disease.

Do not give up, Fenrich!
I will find a cure!



I’m not going to give up!
I made a promise! To find a cure, no matter what!

...Forget it. We’re all gonna be idiots.
It’s fine. I forgive you. It’s not like this was your fault…

Shut up…! I’m not giving up…!
I won’t give up yet! I promised you… That I’d take you to meet the President…!
I promised Desco to train her until she becomes a final boss…!
I preached to rascal about how important it is to keep your promises…!
Am I going to break a promise now…!? Am I…? Well…?
Am I going to helplessly break those promises again, just like that one time…!?

* sigh * … I have no choice.

She pricks her hand here.


Huh!? What are you doing!?

Shhh! Can you please just keep it down?



Huh? This blood? But...

Just do it!

Wh-what’s going on…!?
My body is…!



I...I’m back! I’m a lady again!
I’m seriously back to normal!

What does this mean…?
How did you do that with just your blood!?

The blood of angels possesses the power to purify any impurities.
I should’ve contracted the virus long ago, but I wasn’t showing any symptoms…
So, I gave it a shot.
Looks like my theory was right on target. My blood will counteract the A-Virus.

Th-thank you, Artina!

...My name is Vulcanus.
I thought I told you that.

Okay fine, Vulcanus, can you please share your blood with my little sis-I mean, Desco and rest of our party!?

Nooo! What are you gonna do to me!?
I feel better than ever!

Shut up! Did you forget my rule!?
You vowed absolute loyalty to me!

Fuka can just summon pots from thin air.


Agh!

St-stop it!
Don’t you dare disobey me…!



There now…
Please go right ahead, Doctor.

Axel uses this moment of distraction to escape.


Hmhm. No problem.




Huh!? It feels as though Desco had a super terrible nightmare…

Ugh…
Why does my head hurt…?

I’m so happy for you two!
And it’s all thanks to Vulcanus here! You need to thank her, too!

Really!?
Miss Vulcanus, thank you!
Ooh, but Desco should question the moral implications of being saved by an angel, as a final boss…

So, you saved us…?
Hey, you’re not...gonna charge us, are you?

Hmhmhm, I wonder…
What about you, Mr. Werewolf? You would never accept my help, would you?

Gh…
So this is your payback…

Hmhm, I’m just joking.
Here. Please drink it.





I wasn’t expecting you to, so it doesn’t matter.



Why not?
You’re going to transform soon.

Hmph...I’m not scared of any viruses.
I’ll force it out of my body with my spirit, fortitude, and the power of sardines!


Are you scared of drinking my blood?
...That you’ll break your promise?

You…
How do you know about that promise…?

Oh…
W-well, that’s too bad. I wish you luck with your spirit and fortitude, Mr. Vampire.
W-wait…!



Angels are forbidden from wounding their own bodies...by Celestian Law.

So you broke the law.
...Why would you do that? Was it so our Lord wouldn’t have to break this promise…?
Are you in fact…?

...I did it all for the money, of course.
Please, don’t misinterpret my motives.
All the blood I gave to you guys will, of course, come with a price tag.
My blood is quite expensive, you know?
Can you afford 880,141 HL multiplied by the number of people here?



That’s so freaking expensive!

Hmhmhm...of course. And that’s with a generous discount.
But I know you don’t have that kind of money right now, so I’ll just have to tag along with you until you can afford it.
You guys better rest here for a bit. I’m gonna go make some money.
I should be able to make a ton from all the infected people in this world.



That’s what she says, but…

Desco can tell...that ladyy is actually a good person.

She even broke the law to save us.

Gh…
Now I’m in her debt. What a shame…

However, we have to accept the fact that she saved us from that crisis.

...Yes, my Lord.
Regrettably, it is what it is…
I shall take my frustrations out during the next battle.

...The next battle, huh?



Understood.
All is for my Lord…



Next time on Disgaea 4!: Elections.

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009
Does the monster spawn make this a decent grinding map or is that a relatively common feature?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Decoy Badger posted:

Does the monster spawn make this a decent grinding map or is that a relatively common feature?

Enemy Base Panels is feature we'll see again, but this map isn't mentioned among the various power leveling guides.

It lacks any EXP boosting Geo Panels. The enemy units are spread out so you can't quickly hit a lot of them with area-of-effect moves. You want a map where you kill everything in a turn or so instead of waiting for units to spawn.

mastersord
Feb 15, 2001

Gold Card Putty Fan Club
Member Since 2017!
Soiled Meat

Decoy Badger posted:

Does the monster spawn make this a decent grinding map or is that a relatively common feature?

Any map can be a grinding map, but the maps you look out for are the ones where you can fill the bonus gauge and/or clear quickly (like in 1-2 turns). Enemies don't scale and the story maps are meant to be low level (relative to the caps of course). The real grinding is item world and cheat shop.

If you want something that can clear the story maps easily, take a few weapons and run them in the item world. When one reaches a point where they're getting killed too much, swap to another weapon and equip the old weapon. Go back and forth until you're able to one-shot enemies around lvl 100-200 and you should be set for the rest of the story. The REAL game is in post-game where you grind to lvl 9999 and max stats via reincarnation and other mechanics.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."
You can scale up maps by using the cheat shop, but yeah, there's a limit to the scaling based on the map in question.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
I just realized Fuka talking about confessing her love under a legendary tree is very likely a reference to the Tokimeki Memorial dating sim games.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

mastersord posted:

Any map can be a grinding map, but the maps you look out for are the ones where you can fill the bonus gauge and/or clear quickly (like in 1-2 turns). Enemies don't scale and the story maps are meant to be low level (relative to the caps of course). The real grinding is item world and cheat shop.

If you want something that can clear the story maps easily, take a few weapons and run them in the item world. When one reaches a point where they're getting killed too much, swap to another weapon and equip the old weapon. Go back and forth until you're able to one-shot enemies around lvl 100-200 and you should be set for the rest of the story. The REAL game is in post-game where you grind to lvl 9999 and max stats via reincarnation and other mechanics.

The story modes are solid tactics rpgs that end around level 100 and are easily ruined by all the grinding and powerleveling options available to you for post game stuff. My personal advice would be to ignore reincarnation, grinding, and the item world until the story is over.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Decoy Badger posted:

Does the monster spawn make this a decent grinding map or is that a relatively common feature?

In a word, no. Disgaea usually gives you explicit grinding maps once you're far enough in the story and clearing those over and over tends to be a lot more efficient. As well, the post-game tends to make grinding to 9999 a hilariously simple affair. Wasting time with chump change like this, even with the Cheat Shop, is not worth it.
...Actually I forget, is the Cheat Shop in this game?

mastersord posted:

If you want something that can clear the story maps easily, take a few weapons and run them in the item world. When one reaches a point where they're getting killed too much, swap to another weapon and equip the old weapon. Go back and forth until you're able to one-shot enemies around lvl 100-200 and you should be set for the rest of the story. The REAL game is in post-game where you grind to lvl 9999 and max stats via reincarnation and other mechanics.

You can do that, but tbh I prefer finding a map you can easily do a geo chain in. Crank up the difficulty in the Cheat Shop, solve the geo puzzle and then get a character (or better yet a combo of characters) get the last hit in. Assuming you can kill the enemy, you'll get tons of EXP and you can easily gain 5-10 levels at once. You can hit 100+ in like 10-ish runs.

Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Dec 24, 2022

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Seraphic Neoman posted:

...Actually I forget, is the Cheat Shop in this game?

The Cheat Shop is in this version of the game. It was not present in the original release.

For those who might not understand what we're referring to. The Cheat Shop is a system that was introduced in Disgaea Dimensions 2 and carried forward into Disgaea 5 and Disgaea 6. It was also backported into the rereleases of Disgaea 4 and Disgaea 1 (but only the mobile version of 1).

You unlock the Cheat Shop via the Dark Assembly after Episode 2.


This adds a NPC to the base from which you access the Cheat Shop.


In it you can adjust some sliders to boost/lower your EXP, Mana, and HL gain. You can also boost Enemy Strength. A maxed out 20 stars for example will boost the level 1 Prinnies on the very first map up to about level 50.


The second page has options to switch some online features off.


The third page. It's hidden and inaccessible opinions atm are free auto-healing after returning to base after a fight and increased Pirate Encounters.


To stop you from breaking the game completely on unlocking the Cheat Shop. The game limits the value you can set the sliders and increases this value by a set amount after you complete an Episode and then as you progress through the post-game. On story completion you can push a slider up to 200%. On completing the post-game a slider can be pushed to 1000%!

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Now on Disgaea 4!: Elections.





Ooh, finally a normal preview?

Normal preview? Not on your life.

The President is basically the head of the Netherworld.
Ever hear, “Better to be the head of a sardine, than the tail of a sea bream!?”

So you're gonna talk about sardines, after all...

It's an idiom that means it's better to the leader of a small group, than to a peon of a much more powerful group.

That's correct. But herein lies a huge mistake!
There are over 200 kinds of fish in the world with the name “tai” (sea bream), but only 100 of them are considered to make up the family!



In other words, we shouldn't using sardines to the smaller group! You should now think of sardines as the bigger, more powerful and awesome group!

As expected of my Lord.
Not only the history of the Netherworld, but you’ve now changed the meaning of an idiom as well.



I’m gonna be the President!



The only thing that stands in our way now are the demons of the corrupternment.

We were able to reverse the A-Virus and bring the upper-level demons in line because of my blood, right?

It’s not like you didn’t take advantage of the infected demons to make a ton of money...you patronizing bitch.

Fenfen, you got to stop being so aggro.

Anyway…
We can finally deliver the beating to the corrupternment that they rightfully deserve.
Upon successfully usurping the regime, I will bring Hades to the Netherworld and teach everyone a lesson or two. Hmhmhm…

So I’m just a step away from taking the office of the President… This nightmare must be coming to an end.

Is Desco close to becoming a final boss?
Desco is excited!

And you’re here to collect some money, right?
How much are you trying to collect, Vulcanus?



Grrr. Fort Knockers, you say?
So you’re going to follow us to our destination again? What an annoying angel…

Oh please, it’s just a coincidence.
Why don’t you change your destination if you’re so upset about it, Mr. Werewolf?

Watch your mouth, Thief Angel.
I’m not going to change anything for you.

Enough, you two!
Stop running your mouths back there! We’re not goin’ on a picnic here!

What’s the matter, rascal?
Tense before our big battle? Or is it a calcium deficiency?
In either event, eating sardines will fix everything. You can’t fight on an empty stomach, right?

Fix everything? Even this intraparty strife? Only time will tell.

I don’t give a crap about sardines!
I told you, I hate fish! Plus, this isn’t the time to be making jokes!
Do you know how many soldiers are stationed at the Executive Office!?

I know there used to be about a million of them….

A million…!?



They have cut down on that number, due to decreased funding, but I assume there are still at least half a million there.

S-so, you do know!
That’s right, there’s a gigantic army of 600,000 soldiers!
Although they’ve downsized by 40% from the height of their manpower, the army still consists of the most powerful demons!
10 million mid-level demons don’t even stand a chance against them!

I know this is just a dream, but not even I think we can beat 600,000 enemies.
Oh, but I’m sure we must have some kind of plan for a situation like this, right?
Go Fenfen! The baddest man in the party!

Hmhmhm, don’t flatter me so much.
Of course I have a plan. And that plan is…

It is..what?



Desco looks so excited to do some assassination. She hasn't learned yet final bosses don't do such things. They order minions to do that for them.

That is the only way we will be able to defeat an army of 600,000 soldiers.

That is not an option, Fenrich. Even if we did topple the corrupternment, no one will approve of our leadership if we cheat like that.
Unless we suppress the corrupternment and the President with our power, fair and square, the Netherworld would never agree to obey us.

So you want a straight-up fight against every single one of those 600,000 soldiers!?
Do you really think th-?

Rascel…
Tell me, what did you come here for?

Well…
To become a great demon who is stronger enough to be worthy of being the President’s son…

Then, wouldn’t this be your best opportunity to show off how much you’ve grown?

How much I’ve grown…?
...D-do you really think I have?



We’re only talking about 600,000 soldiers.
That means that means each of us only has to handle 100,000, right Desco?

Yes, that’s a reasonable expectation for a final boss. Each of us must with stand 100,000 soldiers! Desco is a battle vixen!

100,000 each?
It sounds like you’ve included me in your calculations…

Ugh…
A-actually, no, I didn’t mean-
I-I was...counting the Prinnies…

Oh no! I haven't leveled the Prinnies we got at the beginning of the game.

Emizel, you’re a boy, right? You’ll never get a better chance to rub in your dad’s face what you’ve become since he abandoned you!
600,000 isn’t that much when you compare it to the population of Tokyo!
I’m gonna do it! To become the President!

...poo poo.
Fine, I’ll do it… I’ll show him how much Sir Death Emizel has grown!



Well, do your best not to get in the way of our Lord’s path to the throne.

...Good. It looks like we’re ready.
We’re heading to the executive office of the President, where 600,000 enemies await us!
They’re the perfect opponent! Everyone...it’s time!






Next time on Disgaea 4!: Voter Turn Out!

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Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


I really don't know why they bother with the point limits in the post-game for the Cheat Shop. EXP is useless after a point so keeping it max just saves you the time of having to talk to the NPC and adjust sliders. HL is probably becoming useless roughly where the OP is now, so in the post-game you usually use that category as your dump slider.
Mana is the more useful one of the bunch and I guess it makes sense to limit it...but you're in the post-game. Who cares at that point? And due to Reasons this is the one resource which is the most tedious to farm.

TBH I wish the games would have army-wide mana. Having it per character just feels like an artificial way to extend game time.

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