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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

selec posted:

If the US is going to be in charge of an intervention , wouldn’t that mean we need to center voices from both countries?

Why is my lived experience of the repeated failures of intervention irrelevant? Why is my not wanting my country to commit more oppression and maintenance of a terrible global status quo not relevant to the discussion?

The rape math stuff was loving disgusting, agree there.

Reading the news about poo poo happening in other countries is not lived experience.

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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

selec posted:

Talking to/being veterans who did the poo poo in the other country? Paying taxes to the government that does those things?

Entirely relevant. Your post doesn’t stand scrutiny unless you believe the US is like a ghost or a boogyman instead of the material reality of the wealthiest country on earth, with a built-in sense of entitlement to declare what other, less powerful nations should do, or else.

The idea that citizens of the hegemon have no meaningful way to contribute to discussions of what the hegemon may get up to is just laughable on its face.

What the gently caress are you talking about I just objected to you equating second hand information with living in a country and seeing conditions on the ground. It's like you think you're so goddamn smart that no one could possibly disagree with you for a reason you haven't foreseen. Jesus.

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