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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Oh I did not realize there was a social media thread on these dead forums.

I've been laughing at Twitter today.

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I've read in other places that the new """CEO""" convinced him to pay Google though.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Young Freud posted:

Also, in entirely unrelated news, I found out that you can probably scroll through 100 tweets in a minute, especially low-effort reply tweets, so it really puts a perspective on how damaging these rate limits are to audience retention.

Yeah that’s what I’ve been saying. All you have to do is load up the front page and scroll down and it’ll make hundreds of API requests just like that. After a few minutes you’re done.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Clarste posted:

Also, well, Twitter was probably losing money in the first place, before he said he'd buy it for the funny weed number, and then once the courts said that, no, you can't take back your signature on the contract just because you were doing a bit, he found himself on the hook for a huge amount of money, and of course Twitter is still bleeding money. So part of it's just that he wants to leave his mark on it, yes, but the other part of it is him desperately looking for a way to monetize it. Which is both impossible and also he's pretty stupid so his ideas are below average.

I’ve also read rumors about how he didn’t actually want to buy Twitter at all but instead was looking to sell off Tesla shares without tanking its value. But well, the courts said lol no you signed it and he wasn’t willing to fight it in court for whatever reason.

Of course this is all just hearsay and prolly wrong on many counts but it’s hilarious if true.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Dick Trauma posted:

Yesterday morning I noticed the scroll bar on a post going crazy and thought it was just a browsing glitch. Didn't realize it was the site freaking out on the backend and that I'd be locked out.

Yeah and apparently if you just leave the tab open the site will continuously attempt to phone home and failing, so it just does it again and again and again causing the site to self-DDOS itself.

Does anyone have a Blind app account and can see what Twitter employees are saying these days? I’m convinced based on zero evidence that the only employees left at Twitter fall into two camps: (1) True Believers who worship Elon’s every word because he can do no wrong, and (2) foreigners on a work visa who are forced to yes-man and do everything Elon says because they’re worried about being fired and deported. I just feel like everyone not in one of those camps already moved on to another company because why would you stay?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I remember when Apple made a big deal about how they were bringing emojis to the iPhone. IIRC nobody outside of Japan used or even heard of emojis, but selling a phone in Japan without emojis was a non-starter so they had to implement it if they wanted Japanese people to buy iPhones.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

whydirt posted:

We might not have used the term emoji, but smiley graphics were a thing in the English speaking online world long before iPhones.

:regd04:

That’s different. We used to send text messages with emoticons like :) (the awful app keeps converting this into a smiley but it’s suppose to be just text) and 8==D but after emojis came it’s all 🙂 and 🍆.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Shrecknet posted:

have we forgotten ASCII art? Am I that :corsair: ?

Also the greatest emoticon is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and it will never work in emoji form.

🤷‍♂️

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Mercury_Storm posted:

Also, Facebook's "steal literally all your data" Threads app comes out in two days, so I'm sure people will be jumping all over that. At least until their iPhone tells them that it's going to steal all their data, maybe.

Most people don’t care and just smash the ok/agree button to make the message go away.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Popete posted:

I was gonna ask, is Threads a legit contender to Twitter? I can't imagine wanting to go from Twitter to a Meta product lol

It’s the most serious contender to Twitter, but whether or not it succeeds remains to be seen.

What Threads has that the other Twitter contenders (Mastodon, Bluesky) don’t have are users. Every Instagram user can tap a button and now they’re on Threads. Pretty much every single celebrity and influencer is already on Instagram so now they’re on Threads too. Instagram is also “cool” (as in, people actually use it/want to use it, unlike Facebook which everyone knows is for boomers) so a lot of people from all generations already have an account and can jump into Threads too.

Mastodon has its confusing signup process, which yes many people see this is a feature not a bug, but the average person looking for a Twitter clone doesn’t want to deal with choosing the right instance to register on. People often compare this to signing up for email and how everyone figured it out so what’s the problem here? Well the problem is that people signing up for a social media app don’t see it the same way as signing up for email. And also when people sign up for emails these days it’s overwhelming gmail or insert local country provider like GMX for Germany (unless that’s changed by now).

Bluesky isn’t even launched yet and you need an invite code to get in.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
The major thing going against it right now is that Threads isn’t going to be released in the EU anytime soon presumably because of data collection and privacy laws.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Angepain posted:

This was also true back in the day for everyone with a youtube/gmail account and Google Plus, so it's not a total silver bullet.

I do respect them for naming their social media network after a horrifying depiction of the aftermath of nuclear war, though

Yeah but when Google+ rolled out Facebook wasn’t actively trying to kill itself and drive away users. Twitter is currently doing both of that.

E: Actually I remember Google+ did the invite code only thing and this article seems to confirm that.

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Jul 6, 2023

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

OgNar posted:

Lets check in to see how Threads is doing.

https://twitter.com/itsJeffTiedrich/status/1676781538841620480

Supposedly its already available if you click on the hamburger menu from your Instagram app and you are in the US.
Its app only atm, no web interface.
Comes out later tonight I think though for those not in the US.

Why should I care what a blue check dumbass has to say? I have no idea who he is and Twitter won’t let me peep his profile so I have to assume he’s just an Elon Stan.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

greatBigJerk posted:

He's probably the sort to talk about his Twitter clout at parties.

Oh god I remember that clout website lmao

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Beartaco posted:

If you mean suggested posts which turn the feed into a bs tiktok lite, Instagram just let's you turn that whole system off in the settings (for 30 days at a time) which is great.

Yeah that doesn’t seem to work. I have it set to hide suggested posts for 18 more days it says but I’m literally looking at a suggested post right now.

E: Just checked and most of my feed are suggested posts.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Morroque posted:

So, um... Who, exactly, owns that copyright?

Can’t watch the video cause it’s been removed but if it’s a police body cam then the copyright legitimately belongs to the cop(s).

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Someone explain why removing blocking is a bad thing?

In this hypothetical scenario, if Elon blocked me then I wouldn’t be able to see anything he tweeted unless I logged out of my account, at which point I would see everything he tweeted.

I guess I don’t see how this feature even makes sense at all because I can bypass someone blocking me by just logging out?

I feel like I should always be able to see tweets from people regardless of whether they’ve blocked me or not. If I don’t want to see them, then the onus should be on me to block them on my account. No?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Arsenic Lupin posted:

So, assume I'm a person with an online stalker, or I was a target in Gamergate, or am a sex worker, or committed the sin of being visibly female online.

I mute my stalker:
1. As mentioned upthread, stalker continues to reply to my tweets, exposing my *real* followers to their abuse.
2. Stalker can retweet my posts and encourage other people to stalk me. Their linking my tweet makes it trivial for other people to jump into my timeline.
3. Stalker can @ me into conversations.
4. I can't see stalker's post.

I block my stalker:
1. Can't reply.
2. Can't quote-tweet. They can tweet screencaps, but a screencap doesn't link directly to my account.
3. Can't @ me.
4. I still can't see their post, yay. And (yes, I feel spiteful about this) whenever they see a thread I'm participating in, they can also see that they're not welcome to see my posts.

This is a good post, thanks. And something I’ve never considered because I don’t post on Twitter, only read, so my thoughts immediately went to “why should someone else be able to make their accounts public but block me from reading”. No it’s not a stalker incel thing as my avatar/redtext suggests :shrug:.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
YouTube made a change recently (not sure if it’s global or A/B testing) where if you have watch history disabled then the home feed is just plain empty with a big message about how they can’t algorithmically show you suggested videos. YouTube please stop threatening me with a good time.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

PhazonLink posted:

is the bar for making burner gmail accounts actually low?

last time i checked, gmail and various "legit" privacy email services, and more other "legit" services required some sort of phone verification. so theyre paygated by proxy.

so again , why not just have an account sign up fee.

I have 2 burner gmails, 1 of which I used for this awful site when I needed to post my email for whatever reasons. I’ve lost access to both accounts now because they refuse to let me log in without texting me a code. I think I also tried making a burner gmail in the last year or so for a video game and again it requires a phone number now.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
If this feature existed years ago then we’d have never found out that Ted Cruze likes milf porn.

Who can say if this is a good or bad feature.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Also see Ted Cruze and liking milf porn on twitter.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Nervous posted:

I really do wonder just how many accounts would go inactive if they required even just a one cent monthly fee.

People get outraged when an app that they use every day charges $1, $3, $5 a year to use it, especially when it used to be free. $0.01 would prolly cause more outrage cause then you’d get the people saying “why not just make it free”.

But it’ll surely generate a lot of news so… I expect Twitter to make this change the next time Musk has a story he wants to drown out.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
lol YouTube is telling me to turn off adblocking or else they will block me after 3 strikes

Can’t wait for Google itself to start doing this.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I got the messages first asking me to turn off my adblocker but the “x” to close appeared right away. Then I got the pop ups where there was a timer before the x appeared. Now I get these:



iPad, Safari

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Been seeing a relatively new style of advertisement (to me anyway) on my Instagram feed lately.

It’s always a 2 picture/video post. The first video/picture is something I like like a kitten or a house plant or something. You watch it and then scroll to the next video in the series expecting to see more of your new best cat friend video but surprise! It’s an advertisement for a vacuum cleaner.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Isn’t that organization irrelevant? Haven’t kept up but iirc there were 2 html groups and the one without a number in its name was the authoritative group that browsers actually follow?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
When Apple/Google was introducing "computational photography" to the mainstream people were talking about how they were worried that future generations wouldn't have access to real pictures of animals and plants anymore because everything will have been edited to look better, have colors pop, etc.

Glad that's not going to be an issue going forward since everything will just be fake.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

dr_rat posted:

Look the real world had a good run, it should just play nice and let fake world have it's turn.

Thought we already tried that with Second Life.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Heh, a post on Reddit got to the front page this morning. It was a picture of a modern day american nazi pictured from the back so his face wasn't even visible. And we know he was a nazi because his shirt literally said "Waffen SS" on it but with the runes instead of S, and it had 88 written in big numbers.

It got removed for violating some policy lol.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Maybe Roku is testing that thing in the news recently where they want to take over the HDMI connection and show advertisements every time you hit pause.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/roku-tv-...s%20newsletter.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Guy I work with complains about having to use his phone for 2FA to log into office 365 all the time. He forgets his phone at home like once a week at least. He'd rather just have a dedicated key fob for 2FA that can be lost instead of a phone that everyone has with them 24/7 but he's also a boomer.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I just use 1Password to generate my work 2FA codes though. I already use 1Password as my personal password/2fa manager so it's literally something I already use. iOS's built in password manager now does 2FA and I'm assuming Android's default version does too, if you don't want an app. I'd understand your guy's opinions on this if this required a dedicated app but it doesn't and this way doesn't give work IT any access to your device either. You just scan a QR code in your 2FA app and it's set up.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Waffles Inc. posted:

The issue is that because of that TFA requirement, the company de facto requires that you have a contemporary smartphone even if you don’t require one for your actual duties, but wouldn’t pay for you to have one if you didn’t have one, and that’s “you have you buy your own uniforms” level of really stupid

Company is an engineering company. Everyone that needs to log into office 365 are computer touchers. I think it's safe to assume the venn diagram of engineers that use a computer to do work and doesn't have a smartphone are two separate circles. Company also supplies laptops and poo poo to employees. I'm sure that for the 1 edge case that somehow doesn't have a phone they will make an exception. It's seriously a non issue.

I'm not talking about being forced to sign into Office 365 and having to install work apps here. Literally just opening up your password manager that you should already be using in your personal life to scan a QR code or enter a code sequence to set up your 2FA and doesn't give the IT department any access to your phone.

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Apr 20, 2024

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

feedmyleg posted:

You're discounting the Lightphone type folks who are either burnt out by and hate their dayjobs and are only doing the work because it's the only skill they've developed, or willfully obstinate technologically.

Edge cases. Non issue.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Or they could buy loving Ubikeys.

Just wanna make sure I understand. You guys would rather have to remember to carry a physical fob with you every day to work to generate a 2FA code to login to Office 365 once a day. Instead of just using the phone that's already in your hands the moment you sit down at your computer? Again I'm talking about using either the built-in password manager or password manager of your choice, not a dedicated app, and doesn't require giving your IT access to your device because it's entirely offline. And you guys are under the impression that a company that will give their employees $1000+ laptops for work don't want to spend $25 or whatever for a Yubikey for the 1 loving weirdo that doesn't have a smart phone?

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Peter Falk posted:

Put your yubikey on your keychain like a goddamn adult

My keychain is just 1 key because not everyone drives.

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

mawarannahr posted:

you never get mail?

I have informed delivery so I can see who's mailing me and if I want to bother getting it. I usually get my mail once a week or two. Not enough to keep my mail key with me 24/7.

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