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Trying to learn this and there's just too much to learn and it's all an entangled mess. Like why the hell are there 300 JavaScript frameworks, what's wrong with you people?
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Nov 17, 2022 01:40
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Get a real job like digging ditches or driving a dragula
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Nov 17, 2022 02:00
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Learn to code for smartphones instead of old obsolete desktops OP
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Nov 17, 2022 02:02
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No one is good at all the web things. Just start somewhere and you'll be rewarded. In my opinion, learn vanilla javascript first, then react, then react + your favorite SSR framework (next js and remix are the ones I hear most about, but I don't know poo poo about remix) After that you can learn angular or whatever else. TypeScript is also a biggie but if you don't already understand OOP it can be overwhelming at first.
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Nov 17, 2022 02:08
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Just copy and paste from stackoverflow like the rest of us
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Nov 17, 2022 02:17
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javashit
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Nov 17, 2022 02:17
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Hey YOSPOS
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Nov 17, 2022 02:42
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SQUARESPACE DOT COM
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Nov 17, 2022 02:49
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Seaniqua posted:No one is good at all the web things. Just start somewhere and you'll be rewarded. Thanks, I had never even heard of SSR frameworks before  I was trying to learn Angular actually
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Nov 17, 2022 02:51
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im going to learn the enigma code, thats got to be a valuable skill right?
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Nov 17, 2022 02:55
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Computers loving suck
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Nov 17, 2022 03:33
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learn 2 dig
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Nov 17, 2022 03:34
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Angular is trash learn react I guess
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Nov 17, 2022 03:34
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Smugworth posted:Computers loving suck
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Nov 17, 2022 03:36
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Or learn a language that doesn't suck poo poo (anything JS based, including typescript) and learn JVM language like Kotlin Spring Boot is ok and popular
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Nov 17, 2022 03:36
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OP pray every day to the good Lord that he didn't make you deal with printers
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Nov 17, 2022 03:40
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Big Scary Owl posted:Trying to learn this and there's just too much to learn and it's all an entangled mess. Like why the hell are there 300 JavaScript frameworks, what's wrong with you people? Because JavaScript sucks rear end, meaning there's huge demand for tools that make it suck less. Except everyone and their sister took a stab at that in different and often conflicting directions, anesthetizing the pain of working with JS enough to stave off its death, but not actually making things appreciably less stupid. I, too, really hate web development.
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Nov 17, 2022 03:40
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Because JavaScript sucks rear end Well said
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Nov 17, 2022 03:42
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I know a little bit of html if you need help.
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Nov 17, 2022 03:43
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Smugworth posted:Or learn a language that doesn't suck poo poo (anything JS based, including typescript) and learn JVM language like Kotlin Yeah Spring Boot is what I'm learning alongside Angular. It's very overwhelming cause there's so many choices and I don't know which is "best" Blue Footed Booby posted:Because JavaScript sucks rear end, meaning there's huge demand for tools that make it suck less. Except everyone and their sister took a stab at that in different and often conflicting directions, anesthetizing the pain of working with JS enough to stave off its death, but not actually making things appreciably less stupid. Would it be possible to kill javascript and come up with a replacement? It's so confusing with all these frameworks, there's no real standard it seems like Murdstone posted:I know a little bit of html if you need help. Thanks I appreciate it. I feel like HTML is definitely the least of the problems so far (compared to javascript for example)
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Nov 17, 2022 03:53
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The problem isn't creating a replacement, it's getting the replacement to be supported by all the major browsers AND getting people to actually use it. It's not like anyone said "JavaScript would make the perfect standard," literally ever. It was just the first language to largely accomplish that, back when that was still feasible.
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Nov 17, 2022 03:58
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I don't know what the best path for a self taught dev is to get their foot in the door, but I do know that I hate the gently caress out of JS/TS tooling. Angular is a front end JS/TS framework, Spring Boot is a backend JVM framework. I like fiddling with JSON and for-loops so I stick to backend. You should hit up the Newbie Programming Interviews thread.
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Nov 17, 2022 04:02
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Big Scary Owl posted:Trying to learn this and there's just too much to learn and it's all an entangled mess. Like why the hell are there 300 JavaScript frameworks, what's wrong with you people? That's exactly word by word what I thought when I tried to learn web dev.
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Nov 17, 2022 04:04
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write your website in c and make users download a compiled binary
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Nov 17, 2022 04:06
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Come to the fun side of user facing software and join us in the world of desktop apps where the frsmeworks are Well, at least it's not the hellscape that is JS,
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Nov 17, 2022 04:25
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Smugworth posted:Computers loving suck computers and the internet has completely destroyed the boomer generations brains lol
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Nov 17, 2022 04:29
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computers and the internet allow us to experience alienation together
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Nov 17, 2022 04:31
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Big Scary Owl posted:Thanks, I had never even heard of SSR frameworks before "SSR frameworks" is not even a totally accurate term, because those tools do a ton more stuff than just static rendering. I just truly don't know a better word for it. Sometimes I refer to them as "javascript framework frameworks" because they provide practical architecture (and ease-of-use) to existing javascript frameworks. I only recommend React and TypeScript because I see a lot of those job openings. Angular is also totally fine and good to learn. I will say that, in my experience, a lot of companies using Angular also use TypeScript. I have used React, Angular, and Vue. I like all of them for their own reasons. But learning any popular framework will make you more hirable. Then just go from there and keep learning, it's extremely fun. Haters gonna hate, and I'm a Java developer in my heart, but JavaScript has become a full-fledged big boy programming language over the last 20 years.
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Nov 17, 2022 04:38
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For real OP though. I started in Web. Circumstantially I ended up doing some Desktop work and I've never looked back. Desktop is so much more fun to work on and I don't think you can actually pay me enough to ever touch Web again.
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Nov 17, 2022 04:40
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Long live tables.
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Nov 17, 2022 04:42
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Duck and Cover posted:Long live iframes. you joke, but in TYOOL 2022 they are still everywhere edit: oooooh this was the nerdiest edit I've ever loving seen edit 2: pointing it out is nerdier than the edit itself. I am pagliacci
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Nov 17, 2022 04:45
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Javascript is a weird language. Everything is an object, OP. hth. If you're feeling javascript framework fatigue, you could check out the multibook series "You don't know JavaScript". You'll learn some stuff, but more importantly, you may become closer to the kind of permanent imposter syndrome that leads to productive reliance on StackOverflow and Copilot. This will bring you closer to parity with your peers.
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Nov 17, 2022 04:59
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Chinatown posted:javashit
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Nov 17, 2022 05:07
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Just use WordPress lol
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Nov 17, 2022 05:12
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Blue Footed Booby posted:The problem isn't creating a replacement, it's getting the replacement to be supported by all the major browsers AND getting people to actually use it. It's not like anyone said "JavaScript would make the perfect standard," literally ever. It was just the first language to largely accomplish that, back when that was still feasible. No, at the time we were actually all "this is total poo poo. why are we all using this poo poo, again?" Could be worse... http://www.yourwebsite.com/cgi-bin/youcouldhavehadperl.pl Maybe that's why we were willing to accept js?
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Nov 17, 2022 05:13
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The only good web development involves spiders. Motivational speaking at spider farms. Yeah.
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marcelmouse posted:No, at the time we were actually all "this is total poo poo. why are we all using this poo poo, again?" Oh god I forgot about perl, jesus Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Nov 17, 2022 |
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Nov 17, 2022 16:35
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flubber nuts posted:im going to learn the enigma code, thats got to be a valuable skill right? Once you’ve mastered that, you should check out the ligma code
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Nov 17, 2022 17:13
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Build your entire website in Flash, require visitors to install Flash Player and Shockwave. Profit?
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HTML peaked when they added the <marquee> tag imo
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