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Modern software development today is just replacing the old poo poo with the new poo poo that becomes the new old poo poo to be replaced by the new new poo poo and it never stops
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Nooner posted:Just use WordPress lol
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Seaniqua posted:you joke, but in TYOOL 2022 they are still everywhere Just slice up that photoshop UI and import it into Dreamweaver. It's been awhile I guess I was thinking iframes. Who cares they both rule TABLES AND IFRAMES AHHH YEAH. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Nov 19, 2022 |
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It's fine OP, you just need to start with these three languages that are all named after a random handful of tiles pulled out of a scrabble bag. Please make sure that every other word you use to describe your work is some arcane acronym. Also you can just make up your own rules because as long as what you do works, your sloppy work will only be discovered after you leave for another job. Make sure to complain about both the old version of the thing, and the new version of the thing!!
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Duck and Cover posted:Just slice up that photoshop UI and import it into Dreamweaver. It's been awhile I guess I was thinking iframes. Who cares they both rule TABLES AND IFRAMES AHHH YEAH. I don’t want these memories. The feelings they conjure are rancid and no good.
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Just learn React. In my job hunting experience no one uses Angular or Vue. Though once you finally learn React everyone will have moved onto something else like Svelte or Solid.
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The Merkinman posted:Just learn React. In my job hunting experience no one uses Angular or Vue. lol loving everyone in michigan who isn't pretending to be a silicon valley op uses angular
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The Merkinman posted:Just learn React. In my job hunting experience no one uses Angular or Vue. So despite the fact that my company uses Vue, I will agree with you that no one uses Vue.
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EorayMel posted:OP pray every day to the good Lord that he didn't make you deal with printers Engineering degrees, multiple certs and a couple patents = "Hey, you look like IT. I can't print from this toaster"
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:I don’t want these memories. The feelings they conjure are rancid and no good. I know I know, terrible time when Dreamweaver wasn't a monthly fee. Just awful. Glad those times are over. Adobe must be suffering after the switch.
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The Merkinman posted:Just learn React. In my job hunting experience no one uses Angular or Vue. I'm an angular dev, I prefer it but yeah nobody uses it.
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Come to the wonderful world of being an SDET, where nobody really knows what you're doing, including yourself, and accept that you'll be building your own terrible frameworks to check the other peoples awful code does something approaching what its supposed to! Experience the horror of starting a job to find out there are thousands of flaky Selenium tests (all selenium tests are flakey) that take hours/days to run!
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Become a ServiceNow developer OP , you won't regret it.
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WalletBeef posted:Become a ServiceNow developer OP , you won't regret it. You know there are rules against telling posters to kill themselves
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Kill All Cops posted:learn to code, become a website janitor u were meant to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5esLZRdov8 ^^ imagine the song says learn to code
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bossy lady posted:Do embedded systems development, op Fuckin beat me to it. Firmware for lyfe. C ain't goin anywhere. Might have to learn about oscilloscopes and poo poo tho
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Big Scary Owl posted:Trying to learn this and there's just too much to learn and it's all an entangled mess. Like why the hell are there 300 JavaScript frameworks, what's wrong with you people? They're all smoke and mirrors to try to hide the fact that Javascript is utter garbage which was cobbled together in someone's shed over a weekend and should have never been used for anything beyond adding a trail of sparkles to the mouse pointer.
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olives black posted:bring back rich desktop clients
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Stoatbringer posted:They're all smoke and mirrors to try to hide the fact that Javascript is utter garbage which was cobbled together in someone's shed over a weekend and should have never been used for anything beyond adding a trail of sparkles to the mouse pointer. Also it didn't help that for an incredibly long time JavaScript was basically frozen with basic poo poo everyone wanted missing and being covered for by hacky libraries before they finally managed to start moving it forward again with ES5 in 2009.
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What exactly are frameworks and why is there endless slapfighting about them? And aren’t some (like Node) more performant than others but geared towards different tasks?
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Node's not really a framework in the sense they're talking about, it's a platform (although it includes its own utility framework). It lets you run JavaScript in a non-browser context as a general scripting language.
MikeJF fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Nov 20, 2022 |
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lol at people complaining about web development after IE is dead and gone
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Withnail posted:lol at people complaining about web development after IE is dead and gone That was the battle but it wasn't the war.
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Withnail posted:lol at people complaining about web development after IE is dead and gone Safari is doing its best to assume IEs legacy.
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I still find old code with workarounds for IE6 poo poo in it when I'm doing legacy archaeology.
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Just do what I used to do and write all your code on napkins from memory like some kind of loving weirdo, trust me.
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Stoatbringer posted:I still find old code with workarounds for IE6 poo poo in it when I'm doing legacy archaeology. conditional comments. gross lol.
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Well you just need to use this CSS style sheet to set everything to be the same.... ITS EASY AND MAKES TONS OF SENSE. loving JAckasses. AND YOU GOT RID OF THE BLINK TAG MOTGHER FUCKERJEOPWFHJAOKDPHKR?JQFWSKLJSRWKWFSJM.
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Duck and Cover posted:Well you just need to use this CSS style sheet to set everything to be the same.... ITS EASY AND MAKES TONS OF SENSE. loving JAckasses. AND YOU GOT RID OF THE BLINK TAG MOTGHER FUCKERJEOPWFHJAOKDPHKR?JQFWSKLJSRWKWFSJM. eh, i get the blink tag being obsoleted. if you or the browser dev gently caress up then someone's having a seizure
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Serious post: I’m a web developer making over $100k/year plus bonuses. Shits easy as hell considering all the HTML, CSS, and JS documentation you could ever need are on MDN. (You need to be using this resource if you aren’t already). I don’t work with react personally. However I work with Angular (obviously HTML and SCSS included), Typescript, Express, and NestJS (typescript) daily and speaking candidly I would say I’m drat near close to being an expert in these. (NestJS not so much as my company is currently migrating our backend to this framework and I started working with it about a two months ago). If you aren’t already: My advice if you really want to learn is to take a JS course on udemy then pick a framework and take course on that. I know there are lots of free learning resources out there but you can get most udemy courses for like $12 on sale. If you’re serious about it then the cost is worth it. A course will provide structure for your learning. Pick a course that has mini projects and “homework” built in to it and actually do it on your own first instead of skipping to the next chapter with the answers. While taking a course, I highly recommend trying to build something on your own using what you’ve learned as this will help ingrain the knowledge in your brain vs copying down what you see on the screen. Watch Kevin Powells CSS YouTube channel to see actual good CSS. DRY is the key to success. If you have PMs OP feel free to send me a message if you get stuck on something Edit: and no I’m not some fat nerd computer janitor, I only have this username because an admin changed it years ago and I just rolled with it Huge Lady Pleaser fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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extend this argument to all software development for that matter
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don't touch the stuff, but im more than happy to put in a ticket when their poo poo stops working i don't make dev money but its remote
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I use C++ when working with Unreal Engine but for small projects/apps I make I like using C# because it enables me to be lazy. Web development sucks balls (derogatory) and I don't like it. Altho you can blow people's minds for any software development if you suggest they look for an established library before trying to write their own versions of every possible solved problem.
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Speaking of sucking, looks like a chrome update caused our website to crash when it's opened in Chrome. Apparently it's reacting badly to some CSS code and makes the page crash and eat up all the ram if it keeps going. Well that's not on my table but I did check it for curiositys sake.
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sudonim posted:Fuckin beat me to it. Firmware for lyfe. C ain't goin anywhere. Might get to learn about oscilloscopes more like it Combine embedded with reverse engineering and it’s a heap of fun
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sudonim posted:Fuckin beat me to it. Firmware for lyfe. C ain't goin anywhere. Are there systems that need C without the plus plus?
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K&R C was good. Then ANSI C tidied it up a lot and made it generally nicer and more standardised. Then C++ came along and added classes and objects which were pretty useful (I've seen people implement Objects in pure C and while it worked it was almost unreadable chains of pointers). Then they started adding all sorts of extra stuff to C++ and made it an unnecessarily complicated shitstorm and it's all been downhill ever since.
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This thread made me want to take another crack at C. Have a C book from the mid 90s at home.
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learn angular because react is reddit poo poo
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realpost though i support a wife, 3 kids, a mortgage, and a car loan writing dumb as gently caress angular code, but that being said i've been doing this horrible poo poo for like 10 years, so the point is it pays nice at the higher end
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