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thathonkey posted:distributed multi-region systems are a pain in the rear end but those are reasonable strategies (services, async communication, etc) for making them work and stay up its just that most things dont require that complex of a system eventual consistency
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thathonkey posted:that sounds terrible It is pretty awesome actually.
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oh yall think web development is bad? let me tell you about a little language called coffeescript
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Space Kablooey posted:Not happening in the 7yo Python codebase I work with i mean for new projects
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Has anyone itt mentioned that rust is the truth and also the light?
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olives black posted:i mean for new projects
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Stoatbringer posted:Guys, what if we split up this large application into dozens, nay, hundreds of microservices and containerise everything and hope the entire fragile house of cards somehow stays up all at the same time? I get microservices have benefits but every time I run into them its been a case where I have to pen test / code review individual microservices in isolation. How many findings do clients expect testing an API with like 2 endpoints?
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Do what we did, split out microservices but also leave the original monolith intact and partially in-use and have them share part but not all of their code so any change has a risk of breaking either.
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pretty sure thats what github ended up with
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Microservices are great... If you have to scale to absurd levels. They enable that kind of poo poo. If you can keep your system to like 1 box + a DB, for the love of God do that. The place of development goes to zero and maintenence goes to infinity the second you introduce complex system factoring as a problem that needs to be solved. Microservices are a solution to a problem that is really hard to solve, but come at the cost of enormous complexity.
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MK-Ultramarathon posted:I also hate web development and I've been doing it professionally since 2015 i was a web developer and then turned that into being a presales solutions architect, and now I make 3 times what I but have no responsibility and only code if i want to do try it
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Cool dude alert
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In a class we had to write a program in c to do something. Then we had to rewrite it in python! I just copied the logic of my c program and did something to slam the variables to the right type every other line. I like python but dynamic typing is more trouble than its worth.
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Pekinduck posted:I like python but dynamic typing is more trouble than its worth.
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Dynamic typing sucks but occasionally you can use it to do something really neat and also abhorrent and that's fun.
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I'm waiting until Blazor can compile to Fable and then I want another language on top that compiles to Blazor. Give it time, it will happen.
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Dynamic typing is useful when you don't have a domain model yet and you need to try out different things to figure it out. But actually writing out the domain model as a set of types and getting your program checked is very important outside a pretty limited set of cases.
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I think what web development really needs is a return to tradition.
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microsoft frontpage
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Microservices are a solution to a problem that is really hard to solve, but come at the cost of enormous complexity. They also solve an org problem - multiple dev teams that either can’t agree or don’t talk to each other, make them talk through APIs and handle their own deployments and implementation preferences. Although again you really shouldn’t have this problem in a small scale operation, but, well…
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olives black posted:I think what web development really needs is a return to tradition. love to have a webserver usable by one person at a time
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Space Kablooey posted:love to have a webserver usable by one person at a time yeah I don't get the sqlite/cgi fetishism but replace those with postgresql and fastcgi olives black fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Dec 12, 2022 |
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Philthy posted:microsoft frontpage i said tradition, not barbarism
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olives black posted:I think what web development really needs is a return to tradition. Bitches stack
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Mirage posted:Bitches stack It's pronounced "beaches"
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when we wrap async/await in callbacks then JS will have consumed its own tail and we can go back to using Django
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more like aSTINKronous
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bossy lady posted:more like aSTINKronous
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await promise callback when all software isnt dog poo poo
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thathonkey posted:await promise callback when all software isnt dog poo poo Timeout
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thathonkey posted:await promise callback when all software isnt dog poo poo SYN SYN ..... SYN! ARE YOU THERE I SAID SYN
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nmind
olives black fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Dec 13, 2022 |
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bossy lady posted:more like aSTINKronous
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Mirage posted:Bitches stack Do not stack your bitches more than three high, it's very unsafe.
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olives black posted:I think what web development really needs is a return to tradition. X-Windows/Motif.
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the only framework I will stand by: https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode
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olives black posted:yeah I don't get the sqlite/cgi fetishism but replace those with postgresql and fastcgi SQLite owns as long as you don't need concurrent writes. It scales great to a whole lot of readers at once.
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is sqlite/cgi fetishism really a thing in web development? personally never heard of it. fastcgi is used in modern PHP apps but even there fpm has taken over for the most part
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Pack it in. C++ is on top again https://www.infoworld.com/article/3682141/c-plus-plus-overtakes-java-in-language-popularity-index.html
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get a real job
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