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ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

War and Pieces posted:

Prayer is just manifestation which is just thinking real hard about your wants and desires, which while lame and gay, does work.

If you have a union and you all "pray" together outside your employer's property

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

War and Pieces posted:

Prayer is just manifestation which is just thinking real hard about your wants and desires, which while lame and gay, does work.

it doesn't actually

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

indigi posted:

it doesn't actually

i tried doing it for like a week and it was kind of just going through my daily goals in the morning. I think it could probably help focus your motivation.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
The way my in-laws pray for like wealth and happiness really rubs me the wrong way. If you're prayers are for real a direct line to god then keep the line clear for emergencies. I prayed when I was actively being fired upon or there was an illness, no situation less worthy should take up the precious and obviously finite miracle juice. Sheeeeit, I don't bother the spirits and stars with my bullshit and waste their time with petty mortal concerns. Have some respect for the immortal beings you contract with!

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

i pray for everybody to go to hell when they die

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf

War and Pieces posted:

Prayer is just manifestation which is just thinking real hard about your wants and desires, which while lame and gay, does work.

Capital is hard, read The Secret instead.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

mawarannahr posted:

i tried doing it for like a week and it was kind of just going through my daily goals in the morning. I think it could probably help focus your motivation.

yeah remembering to accomplish something may lead to it being accomplished

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

indigi posted:

yeah remembering to accomplish something may lead to it being accomplished

it’s hard when you’re disabled (adhd)

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
how come manifesting never works when it comes to stuff like a cure for cancer. cure for aids. make a doctor stay up in the lab for days. get back home. things are wrong. well not really it was bad all along

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

AnimeIsTrash posted:

i pray for everybody to go to hell when they die

Why not just wish for everyone to stay alive? Much less complicated imo.

Tempora Mutantur
Feb 22, 2005

AnimeIsTrash posted:

i pray for everybody to go to hell when they die

every fuckin day, as an american, I wish that american christians were right and there was a real hell, just because 99% of them would be tortured for eternity in it and suddenly their religion would rule

alas

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

indigi posted:

how come manifesting never works when it comes to stuff like a cure for cancer. cure for aids. make a doctor stay up in the lab for days. get back home. things are wrong. well not really it was bad all along

lol if you never successfully prayed your STD test comes out negative

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Tempora Mutantur posted:

every fuckin day, as an american, I wish that american christians were right and there was a real hell, just because 99% of them would be tortured for eternity in it and suddenly their religion would rule

alas

most American Protestants believe that if you accept Jesus as savior you go to heaven end of story so they'd all go to heaven, and American Catholics have purgatory in their back pocket

you'd probably want something like Seventh Day Adventists or a non-trinitarian sect like Jehovah's Witnesses to be right

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf

indigi posted:

most American Protestants believe that if you accept Jesus as savior you go to heaven end of story so they'd all go to heaven

The big step for accepting Jesus is sincerely repenting for your sins. The sincerely part is what would drat most people to hell if Jesus was actually real.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


indigi posted:

how come manifesting never works when it comes to stuff like a cure for cancer. cure for aids. make a doctor stay up in the lab for days. get back home. things are wrong. well not really it was bad all along

you have to know what to manifest and nobody that understands what needs to manifest to treat a cancer is superstitious enough to bother manifesting~

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Tempora Mutantur posted:

every fuckin day, as an american, I wish that american christians were right and there was a real hell, just because 99% of them would be tortured for eternity in it and suddenly their religion would rule

alas

😈🔥✝️

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

BitcoinRockefeller posted:

The big step for accepting Jesus is sincerely repenting for your sins. The sincerely part is what would drat most people to hell if Jesus was actually real.

according to both the Bible and canonical church councils repentance out of fear from punishment qualifies

Buck Wildman
Mar 30, 2010

I am Metango, Galactic Governor



qft

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

mawarannahr posted:

Our Programme is based entirely on the scientific, and moreover the materialist, world-outlook. An explanation of our Programme, therefore, necessarily includes an explanation of the true historical and economic roots of the religious fog. Our propaganda necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism; the publication of the appropriate scientific literature, which the autocratic feudal government has hitherto strictly forbidden and persecuted, must now form one of the fields of our Party work. We shall now probably have to follow the advice Engels once gave to the German Socialists: to translate and widely disseminate the literature of the eighteenth-century French Enlighteners and atheists.

But under no circumstances ought we to fall into the error of posing the religious question in an abstract, idealistic fashion, as an “intellectual” question unconnected with the class struggle, as is not infrequently done by the radical-democrats from among the bourgeoisie. It would be stupid to think that, in a society based on the endless oppression and coarsening of the worker masses, religious prejudices could be dispelled by purely propaganda methods. It would be bourgeois narrow-mindedness to forget that the yoke of religion that weighs upon mankind is merely a product and reflection of the economic yoke within society. No number of pamphlets and no amount of preaching can enlighten the proletariat, if it is not enlightened by its own struggle against the dark forces of capitalism. Unity in this really revolutionary struggle of the oppressed class for the creation of a paradise on earth is more important to us than unity of proletarian opinion on paradise in heaven.

That is the reason why we do not and should not set forth our atheism in our Programme; that is why we do not and should not prohibit proletarians who still retain vestiges of their old prejudices from associating themselves with our Party. We shall always preach the scientific world-outlook, and it is essential for us to combat the inconsistency of various “Christians”. But that does not mean in the least that the religious question ought to be advanced to first place, where it does not belong at all; nor does it mean that we should allow the forces of the really revolutionary economic and political struggle to be split up on account of third-rate opinions or senseless ideas, rapidly losing all political importance, rapidly being swept out as rubbish by the very course of economic development.

Everywhere the reactionary bourgeoisie has concerned itself, and is now beginning to concern itself in Russia, with the fomenting of religious strife—in order thereby to divert the attention of the masses from the really important and fundamental economic and political problems, now being solved in practice by the all-Russian proletariat uniting in revolutionary struggle. This reactionary policy of splitting up the proletarian forces, which today manifests itself mainly in Black-Hundred pogroms, may tomorrow conceive some more subtle forms. We, at any rate, shall oppose it by calmly, consistently and patiently preaching proletarian solidarity and the scientific world-outlook—a preaching alien to any stirring up of secondary differences.

The revolutionary proletariat will succeed in making religion a really private affair, so far as the state is concerned. And in this political system, cleansed of medieval mildew, the proletariat will wage a broad and open struggle for the elimination of economic slavery, the true source of the religious humbugging of mankind.

drat, which of the founding fathers was this?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Animal-Mother posted:

drat, which of the founding fathers was this?

When he died on June 8, 1809, only six people attended his funeral, as he had been ostracized for his ridicule of Christianity[11] and attacks on the nation's leaders.

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

seems 2 me like religion, even organized religion, is no better and no worse than any other social institution a society produces in that a class society will inevitably reproduce class-forward structures that reify class society. almost as if part of a cycle of base and superstructure locked in a continual dynamic process that redounds to the entrenchment of class in society. strange but true!!!

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

Flowers For Algeria posted:

religion is creepy as gently caress and a huge driver of suffering worldwide

worship is essentially slavish devotion towards a lord, as if we didn’t have enough of these already

it also literally teaches you to think uncritically and has rotten so many minds

hosed up made up poo poo imo

this forest would be great if there werent so many loving trees in the way!!!! gently caress!!!!!!!

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

KirbyKhan posted:

The way my in-laws pray for like wealth and happiness really rubs me the wrong way. If you're prayers are for real a direct line to god then keep the line clear for emergencies. I prayed when I was actively being fired upon or there was an illness, no situation less worthy should take up the precious and obviously finite miracle juice. Sheeeeit, I don't bother the spirits and stars with my bullshit and waste their time with petty mortal concerns. Have some respect for the immortal beings you contract with!

agreed

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

BitcoinRockefeller posted:

The big step for accepting Jesus is sincerely repenting for your sins. The sincerely part is what would drat most people to hell if Jesus was actually real.

is it possible to sincerely repent for your sins while trapped within your own facticity? is it? does sincerity exist,,,, ???

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

mawarannahr posted:

Our Programme is based entirely on the scientific, and moreover the materialist, world-outlook. An explanation of our Programme, therefore, necessarily includes an explanation of the true historical and economic roots of the religious fog. Our propaganda necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism; the publication of the appropriate scientific literature, which the autocratic feudal government has hitherto strictly forbidden and persecuted, must now form one of the fields of our Party work. We shall now probably have to follow the advice Engels once gave to the German Socialists: to translate and widely disseminate the literature of the eighteenth-century French Enlighteners and atheists.

But under no circumstances ought we to fall into the error of posing the religious question in an abstract, idealistic fashion, as an “intellectual” question unconnected with the class struggle, as is not infrequently done by the radical-democrats from among the bourgeoisie. It would be stupid to think that, in a society based on the endless oppression and coarsening of the worker masses, religious prejudices could be dispelled by purely propaganda methods. It would be bourgeois narrow-mindedness to forget that the yoke of religion that weighs upon mankind is merely a product and reflection of the economic yoke within society. No number of pamphlets and no amount of preaching can enlighten the proletariat, if it is not enlightened by its own struggle against the dark forces of capitalism. Unity in this really revolutionary struggle of the oppressed class for the creation of a paradise on earth is more important to us than unity of proletarian opinion on paradise in heaven.

That is the reason why we do not and should not set forth our atheism in our Programme; that is why we do not and should not prohibit proletarians who still retain vestiges of their old prejudices from associating themselves with our Party. We shall always preach the scientific world-outlook, and it is essential for us to combat the inconsistency of various “Christians”. But that does not mean in the least that the religious question ought to be advanced to first place, where it does not belong at all; nor does it mean that we should allow the forces of the really revolutionary economic and political struggle to be split up on account of third-rate opinions or senseless ideas, rapidly losing all political importance, rapidly being swept out as rubbish by the very course of economic development.

Everywhere the reactionary bourgeoisie has concerned itself, and is now beginning to concern itself in Russia, with the fomenting of religious strife—in order thereby to divert the attention of the masses from the really important and fundamental economic and political problems, now being solved in practice by the all-Russian proletariat uniting in revolutionary struggle. This reactionary policy of splitting up the proletarian forces, which today manifests itself mainly in Black-Hundred pogroms, may tomorrow conceive some more subtle forms. We, at any rate, shall oppose it by calmly, consistently and patiently preaching proletarian solidarity and the scientific world-outlook—a preaching alien to any stirring up of secondary differences.

The revolutionary proletariat will succeed in making religion a really private affair, so far as the state is concerned. And in this political system, cleansed of medieval mildew, the proletariat will wage a broad and open struggle for the elimination of economic slavery, the true source of the religious humbugging of mankind.

agreed

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Communism is a belief system just like Catholicism :angel:

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


lol that most white catholics believe believe that god is giving them the cold shoulder.

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



Pentecoastal Elites posted:

seems 2 me like religion, even organized religion, is no better and no worse than any other social institution a society produces in that a class society will inevitably reproduce class-forward structures that reify class society. almost as if part of a cycle of base and superstructure locked in a continual dynamic process that redounds to the entrenchment of class in society. strange but true!!!

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

this forest would be great if there werent so many loving trees in the way!!!! gently caress!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql4JgBBgHA4

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Riot Bimbo posted:

you have to know what to manifest and nobody that understands what needs to manifest to treat a cancer is superstitious enough to bother manifesting~

The Placebo effect is real

Fortaleza
Feb 21, 2008

Being catholic is cool because the architecture is better

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
IDK what religions it's most popular in but I like gothic churches.

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Weka posted:

IDK what religions it's most popular in but I like gothic churches.

when i was a teenager i thought gothic churches were the coolest desktop background and they are pretty rad tbqh

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
My desktop background is plain black. Can't get any more gothic than that.

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

i hate that they made the standard windows background brighter, the one before was nice but the new one us just unpleasant to look at

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

Koishi Komeiji
Mar 30, 2003



What zero tax liability does to a mf

https://twitter.com/MusicalChaotic/status/1596896120210612224

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

big rear end show

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

is that supposed to be Jesus

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Has anyone done hologram Jesus yet? I mean if they can do Tupac and animes how hard could JC be

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Colonel Cancer posted:

Has anyone done hologram Jesus yet? I mean if they can do Tupac and animes how hard could JC be

doesn’t this count as idolatry ?? mods?

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