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the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture






miller for voracek. who says no??

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the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





xG is a flaky, unreliable stat and you shouldn't really base any kind of serious analysis on it

as for coaching pretty much every coach plays the same system. the only real variations are on how much you dump it in vs carry it in and how accountable coaches hold players for adhering to the system. a coach like boudreau pretty much lets players ignore the system while a coach like tortorella or brind'amour will bench you if you don't do exactly what he thinks you should do. the difference between coaches is almost all down to player usage and how well they can keep the team motivated. tactically there's like zero evidence coaches have any impact except for when some coach introduces a new system and it takes a couple seasons for the league to catch up.

hakstol coaches the same system as everyone else. there's no weird defensive positioning or centers playing too far out or whatever you think causes their goalies to suck. seattle's goalies suck because they play dunn and schwartz and burakovsky and schwartz and benier and a bunch of other poor defensive players a lot and they blow a lot of defensive plays. he's also got like 5 nhl seasons so 'his goalies have underperformed expected almost every season he's coached' isn't really damning

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





Eric the Mauve posted:

I kinda feel what you're saying, but if you think Hakstol and Maurice and Torts are running the same system as Cooper and Sullivan, I don't even know how to begin to respond to that

they're not getting the same results or getting their players to adhere to the system to the same extent but they are all trying to accomplish the same basic things. it's not like hakstol has his wingers doing puck retrieval instead of defenseman or using his center as a high rover and tortorella has his left wings playing behind the defense. there's some variation but fundamentally players have the same roles and do the same things on all the teams in the league. what differs is how well you get the players to do it. and i guess if you want to say 'shot blocking at all costs' is a system then tortorella is running a different system. the last real 'system' introduced in the nhl was the neutral zone trap and all teams have aligned on a modified version of the trap ever since. there isn't a single team in the league that (intentionally) gives up the neutral zone or declines to aggressively defend zone entries

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