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paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy


if your flag has an outline of the shape of your nation your not a real nation sorry


oh ya also the US created al qaeda in the 90s to help carve out a chunk of serbia so the CIA could smuggle gigantic amounts of heroin more easily


theres some news about it rn idk
https://twitter.com/search?q=Kosovo

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

bump

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Average Kosovo enjoyer
https://youtu.be/qWowDsYn8Pw

Pulcinella
Feb 15, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 9 days!
FREE KOSOVO
PALESTINE IS SERBIA

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

:synpa:

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011



Get ready to see this on every public building and front lawn as people decide to care about this place they definitely knew existed one week ago.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

PhilippAchtel posted:



Get ready to see this on every public building and front lawn as people decide to care about this place they definitely knew existed one week ago.

Some of us remember the Balkan Wars of the 90's.

We gum a mixture of mashed potatoes and green beans for dinner every night, but we remember.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

PhilippAchtel posted:



Get ready to see this on every public building and front lawn as people decide to care about this place they definitely knew existed one week ago.

This is a really bad map of Ukraine. Crimea looks nothing like that!

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

This video led me to "Eastern Slavonia - Serbs Stone US Ambassador".

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

[goon project] let's invade kosovo

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

no

F Stop Fitzgerald
Dec 12, 2010

whats going on in kosovo

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
another successful us nation building project

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

whats going on in kosovo

same thing that's going on in you. serbia.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The Falklands are Kosovo
https://twitter.com/MercoPressNews/status/1598701090647646208?s=20&t=MIOFdrhvI-qPLBCxvZJABQ

speng31b
May 8, 2010

do the pms

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Slava Kosovini

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/DUALIPA/status/1284928447912050688?s=20&t=Z0R3IS6oxqMfzTMBVPAngg

Dua Lipa gonna be the Albanian Zelensky

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
Very much a real country, and absolutely worth going to war over!

Again!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Where do I sign up for the Dua Lipa Battalion

Cuttlefush
Jan 15, 2014

gotta have my purp

mf look like a mount & blade dude

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011


What's that? The system of nation-states which was supposed to provide stable borders between sovereign entities actually creates ethnic cleansing and conflict over overlapping areas of ethnic diversity?

No way!

post COVID
Mar 5, 2007

free college, free healthcare, free Shmurda


https://twitter.com/hegelwcrmcheese/status/1516049462468218889?s=21

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018


mam hello

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

how has their been more than one organ harvesting scandal in Kosovo

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

gradenko_2000 posted:

Where do I sign up for the Dua Lipa Battalion

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

lol

FreeRangeHexagon
Apr 17, 2022

PhilippAchtel posted:

What's that? The system of nation-states which was supposed to provide stable borders between sovereign entities actually creates ethnic cleansing and conflict over overlapping areas of ethnic diversity?

No way!

Albania cleansing ethnic Greeks from Southern Albania: haha yes this rules

Albania watching Serbs cleanse ethnic Albanians from Kosovo: no this sucks, the Wilsonian model of the nation state as a block of land belonging to a single ethnicity is only good when my ethnicity benefits from it

ctrl f to replace these references to other ethnicities if you want

edit: now that I think about it "ctrl f to replace ethnicities" is the whole problem with the modern European idea of what a nation state is, Woodrow Wilson making sure that Europeans would always be fighting over demographics is one of the underrated ways he helped ensure American global dominance

FreeRangeHexagon has issued a correction as of 03:22 on Dec 12, 2022

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

FreeRangeHexagon posted:

"ctrl f to replace ethnicities"

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

FreeRangeHexagon posted:


edit: now that I think about it "ctrl f to replace ethnicities" is the whole problem with the modern European idea of what a nation state is, Woodrow Wilson making sure that Europeans would always be fighting over demographics is one of the underrated ways he helped ensure American global dominance

Yeah, it was a loving :master: for sure. And one which could only have come from that peculiarly liberal brand of racist.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Meh.

Material conditions is what matters at the end of the day. Several unions in Europe managed to deal with ethnic tensions as long as people had food and a place to live.

Edit: Not to mention US had to intervene militarily to destroy two of them and is in the process of economically destabilizing the third. Bonus points for trying to pick a war with China or to collapse it.

It wasn't really so much a one neat trick to create genocide and more US exists to commit genocide.

Ethnic cleansing and genocide is a foreign policy tool that US relies on and uses constantly and actively participates in.

Lostconfused has issued a correction as of 07:03 on Dec 12, 2022

TheSlutPit
Dec 26, 2009

Oh wow, a two headed eagle. Maybe come up with some original poo poo for your ethnostate next time. 101 level poo poo ffs.

Take the plunge! Okay!
Feb 24, 2007



if there ever was a chad/virgin dichotomy, it’s the flags of Albania and Kosovo

Futanari Damacy
Oct 30, 2021

by sebmojo
Was it possible for Wilson to be a worse president than he was

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
He could have separated Kosovo from Serbia.

FreeRangeHexagon
Apr 17, 2022

TheSlutPit posted:

Oh wow, a two headed eagle. Maybe come up with some original poo poo for your ethnostate next time. 101 level poo poo ffs.

we also have a red white and blue horizontal tricolour, but there's a twist! we put a lovely coat of arms on top of it

Futanari Damacy posted:

Was it possible for Wilson to be a worse president than he was

yeah, if he hadn't had that stroke and actually served out his second term competently

Salean
Mar 17, 2004

Homewrecker

restore yugoslavia

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

Salean posted:

restore yugoslavia

This is the right answer for solving the Kosovo situation. The right answer for solving Nagorno Karabakh is restoring USSR. And the right solution for solving both Israel/Palestine and Cyprus? That's right. Restore the Ottoman empire.

FreeRangeHexagon
Apr 17, 2022

Salean posted:

restore yugoslavia

:tito:

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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Lostconfused posted:

Meh.

Material conditions is what matters at the end of the day. Several unions in Europe managed to deal with ethnic tensions as long as people had food and a place to live.

I'm not saying multi-ethnic states can't exist. They've been the norm for most of history.

Material conditions do drive events. That's why you can have all these ethno-nationalists sitting in wait, but not in power. So, yeah, I agree there.

But systems aren't nothing. They can heighten or resolve conflicts, provide tools to expand or relieve violence. And the tool of "one people, one state" has been a very powerful one, when the proper conditions exist.

I don't really think Wilson was some evil genius, but I do think it's funny that his wierd trick ostensibly intended to prevent another great war is itself part of so many of the wars of the 20th century, either to unify or shepherd a people or to bust up one of those multi-ethnic states.

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