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wasn't sure if this fit in other threads so made this one. just read this article and it made me so angry! https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2022-12-12/-teentok-influencers-test-tiktok-s-rules-straining-moderators?srnd=premium to sum it up, some girl has been exploited for years by her family, posting stuff that's just on the edge of cp. I literally felt nauseous reading this article. I know that there's this "think of the children" argument against this, and kids have always been hosed up, but man, I can't think of another historical time when children have been so sexualized by so much of mass culture. this is just one example, there's countless more. as a teacher, I know what kids are into / watching these days. if you're an average adult, you have no idea how much tiktok has taken over the lives and minds of children in america, and all over the world. it literally defines their lives, much more than tv shows, movies, or video games. every joke, every meme, everything they say is all stuff that was drilled into their brains for every waking moment that they can via tiktok. I think in a just world/society, people under the age of 18 should not be allowed to have accounts or watch social media. it's only a negative. there are no positives. I mean, ideally it would never have been developed, but that cat's out of the bag.
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Mirello posted:wasn't sure if this fit in other threads so made this one. bro old men used to marry like 12 year old girls and it was normal
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Casey Finnigan posted:bro old men used to marry like 12 year old girls and it was normal so that's a reason to accept it now?
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no it's just weird to say that the current period is the worst wrt child abuse cause it's not even close
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Casey Finnigan posted:no it's just weird to say that the current period is the worst wrt child abuse cause it's not even close I guess what I meant is that this is an era of mass culture. also, theoretically, we know that child abuse is wrong. in ancient Greece, it wasn't really up for debate. or in the times when 12 year olds were getting married. this is a time when almost everyone agrees that child abuse is wrong, but it is still allowed, and even encouraged, and for what? profit!
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I simply don't use social media or sexualize children, seems to work for me op
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Mirello posted:I guess what I meant is that this is an era of mass culture. also, theoretically, we know that child abuse is wrong. in ancient Greece, it wasn't really up for debate. or in the times when 12 year olds were getting married. "mass culture", as opposed to what, people having their own individual, personal culture? Re ancient Greece, debate-lord Plato for instance was opposed to pederasty so it was in fact up for debate.
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we need to replace mass culture with mass culture, you know what i mean? pray the rosary
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if humanity survives another hundred years we're going to look at social media like we regard trepanning
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I think social media has a lot of positives for building relationships and community between people in different circumstances with different backgrounds. There shouldn't be as much algorithmic exploitation of children in the way that there is now, but adults are also being exploited in the same way. If you're worried about parents abusing their kids or people sexualizing children, there are so so many more common and egregious examples of it happening behind closed doors across America. I spent about a year working with foster kids who needed intensive inpatient trauma-informed therapy, and the tiktok story, while super hosed up, doesn't really touch the terrible things that go on outside the purview of social media. If you want to help make a difference, you could volunteer or work somewhere with foster kids or, if you're teaching, just redouble efforts to learn evidence based poo poo and do your job well enough that your students leave with better social emotional and academic outcomes.
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Dec 12, 2022 21:22
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Supporting and protecting kids as an educator is partially about teaching them skills they can use to regulate their emotions, make good decisions, self reflect, etc. If that's not something you have time or energy to do, you can (and should) always be modeling skills that you want your kids to practice in the real world.
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Dec 12, 2022 21:27
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Social Media STINKS!
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man who spent half his life on a computer forum: its tiktok thats the problem
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Homeless Friend posted:man who spent half his life on a computer forum: its tiktok thats the problem yeah it's called "experience" dumbass. that's how i know it's bad.
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lmfao “If you don’t have haters,” Arritola says, “you ain’t poppin’.”
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Homeless Friend posted:man who spent half his life on a computer forum: its tiktok thats the problem lol but for real I think the engagement mechanism of social media plus how ubiquitous it is in a culture of people that are increasingly alienated from each other and their communities is uniquely damaging and dangerous. its going to gently caress up a few generations kind of like leaded gasoline before it is curtailed (unlikely) or the potemkin data economy collapses
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I'm an "elder millennial" and I don't know much about Tik Tok other than it seems to be short clips, which follows the trend of reality being cut up into tinier and tinier pieces for addictive consumption, a visible trend on social media for over a decade I mean, wow, 5 second clips fed to undeveloped brains by an algorithm. sounds good.
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me, a man of culture: "The internet peaked with YTMND, but kids today don't care to learn our history, so they don't know that"
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this might be extremely stupid/hypocritical, but I think that anonymity and lack of algorithms make forums ok in a way that modern social media isn't. also, I think the internet has always hosed up your brain, god knows it has to me, but it's much worse now than before and it's something to watch out for.
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Homeless Friend posted:man who spent half his life on a computer forum: its tiktok thats the problem
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some might say the internet makes you stupid
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lumpentroll posted:some might say the internet makes you stupid it does tho
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:it does tho you maybe
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lumpentroll posted:you maybe and you definitely
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that's right
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i don't use "Tik Tok"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:yeah it's called "experience" dumbass. that's how i know it's bad. goons know better than any the damage being online can inflict on a young mind
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You're just not cool op sorry
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:if humanity survives another hundred years we're going to look at social media like we regard trepanning I agree, social media is here to stay and will only become more incorporated into our institutions.
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how about tik tok by ke$ha that was a banger
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Homeless Friend posted:man who spent half his life on a computer forum: its tiktok thats the problem 
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Tiktok is a Chinese plot to destroy America so its cool. Agreed on all other social media tho
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GalacticAcid posted:how about tik tok by ke$ha that was a banger also agreed with this
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yeah, it sucks about all the sex abuse her manager did though
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Humanity is the cancer. Social media just reflects that fact.
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NeatHeteroDude posted:I think social media has a lot of positives for building relationships and community between people in different circumstances with different backgrounds. There shouldn't be as much algorithmic exploitation of children in the way that there is now, but adults are also being exploited in the same way. Perhaps, and follow along closely because I don't want to lose you here, the whole point of social media is the algorithmic exploitation and that's why it's bad.
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NeatHeteroDude posted:I think social media has a lot of positives for building relationships and community between people in different circumstances with different backgrounds. 
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FreeRangeHexagon posted:yeah, it sucks about all the sex abuse her manager did though when Timber first came out I don't even think she was listed as being featured for singing the hook because she wasn't legally allowed to release any new music without doing it through her abusive manager. hosed up industry
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Tik tok shows you the exact content you want to see (thanks to Chinese spycraft) so if your stream of content is full of child abuse and whatnot instead of microchip manufacturing secrets I'm stealing your wallet the next time I pass you on the street
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